About Godwin, I didn’t think he was dead…and I missed that
his law could be haunting.  But given my last post it is a perfect
allusion!  I laughed my sides off.  He is, I think, so right, given
enough time, an association of Nazism will come up in a discussion. 
I am especially guilty of it, with more than an occasional description
of goosestepping and stormtrooper Republicans, thinking obviously,
it is most apropos!  As evidenced in their lockstep genuflection to
Grover Norquist and his cast of all-devouring affluent characters! LOL
There must be another law that says once a not so subtle trope is
used it often takes on a life of its own and redecorates the whole
discussion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin’s_law

You don’t mean the illustrious Mary Wollstonecraft Godwin Shelly
who invented our favorite xombie monster, Frankenstein, do you,
heterochromatic? I never quite ever thought all that much about
her dad, the utilitarian philosoher William Godwin, and never as
one who would haunt anyone.

I guess it is possible Orwell’s ghost haunts the world without end. 
So in that vein, I will take a cue from heterochromatic’s Nov. 22
11:51am and Leefeller’s Nov. 22 11:52am posts and say indeedy
Adolf is a living dead that lives on in the basically mean, lying, and
cruel Republicans, and Hitler’s Sieg Heils, those Nazi-signaling ritualistic
chants, are the constant carping and repetitive litany of personal attacks
on Barack Obama that began the first second Obama took the oath of the
Presidency and now also the Occupiers are in their cross-hairs. 

So Romney is not above out and out lying in his new campaign ad that
deliberately and absolutely lies by slicing and dicing a 2008 campaign
speech by Senator Obama who in reality was quoting John McCain.  Now
that is dishonestly sordid and vile of Romney who, poor thing, has to use
lies to get noticed.  So much for Romney integrity.  Has anyone been able
to find a thimble full of integrity in any of those candidates?  Buckets of
shit are there, f’sure. some who have their feet in it, others with it on
their heads.  It is a game to guess which is which.

it seems that Lee keeps on keeping on demonstrating that

Godwin is not dead.

Fascism is alive and well fulfilling Republican wet dreams to an orgasmic level exceeding their wildest fantisyes.  it appears Adolf is back from the dead, the marginalizing segments of society seems to have made a successful come back.  Actually with bells on very like Scrooges Christmas Past we have Aldofs brown-shirts of Germany past. I wonder if Wisconsin police would be so quick to pull out the pepper spray?

Come on, huge protests in Wisconsin without far as I know any pepper spray, Ohio too! No flash grenades or and rubber bullets,  seems to be a little bit of sick bully element making the rounds, don’t you think! 

Of course the Republicans love to play the fear card.

Orwell was always back from the dead.

And Orwell has come back from the dead.

Ron S—there are lots of strategies.  One must remember, however, that wherever two or three are gathered together, there the secret police are also, at least in the person of an informer.  Anecdotes on request.

The tenacity of OWS to move around New York as needed, to
interrupt Wall Street financiers workday in spite of being up-
ended out of the Park shows this is a permanent state of mind.
Listening to some of them invited to speak on various news
reports, they are articulate, in possession of their senses, and
are there to stay until changes happen.

The social energy which caused OWS to resonate with so many people is certainly still hanging around.

Perhaps ‘Occupy’ will now re-brand itself into something coherent that may effect lasting change.

Perhaps Occupy will now feel forced to focus on elections, legislation, regulation and a fairer, simpler, tax structure.

Perhaps Occupy will smack-down these idiotic petulant children who embarrass the hell out of 99% of the American public.

Perhaps Occupy will stand tall and hold itself accountable.

Time will tell.

Occupy has changed the nation and the worlds conversation, more and more mass media and people are now aware of the inequality, it is becoming common knowledge, and being discussed and thought about. Thank you Occupy, you have waken up a sleeping populous to the fact of disenfranchisement perpetuated by the 1 percent against the 99 percent!

Violence should not an option for the protesters.  After watching New York’s finest, I would say they are not looking so fine. The Berkley cops beating on peaceful protesters lost my respect of the police and has enhanced my respect for the protesters.  I can only say the cops looked and acted like goons! 

Yes Imax, I suck and you are as pure as the gleefully driven snow!

This is the website for the live streaming feed:
http://tinyurl.com/ctqfntq for the Updates on the clearing of
Zuccotti Park.  I just saw that I messed that up on my post
at Nov. 15 at 1:15 pm.  My apologies.

heterochromatic, Nov. 15 at 6:56 pm – Isn’t that what I said?
Sort of?  at Nov. 15 at 3:40 pm and Nov. 15 at 5:13 pm?  If not
explicit enough, then let me here agree with you.

Using violence, exexexexpat, Nov. 15 10:36 am does not get
you anything except dead, and if not you, then your friends and
companions and lots of others. That is not what OWS is about. 
Some of you violent types are always attracted to protests.  But you
are criminal and really after something quite different than what
the movement wants. 

objective observer, November 15 at 10:30 am – Occupiers don’t have
the spine for it, they/we don’t want to have a spine for it.  Violence is
not the way.  It will only piss off the American populous, which is
antithetical to their/our cause.  They/we represent the 99% which is
the American populous. So F’ you.  It takes more spine to protest
without violence.

What is with the unregistered violent anarchists that have slithered in? 
It is seditious which is illegal, you do know that don’t you?  There is
no absolute rush, by the way.  Time will do the work for the movement. 
It is already working.  OWS is not about destroying our democracy. 
They/we are interested in making it work as a democracy and putting
an end to the plutocracy.  http://www.occupywallst.org

Sher, OWS is far from out. This isn’t really a set-
back. The camp in the park couldn’t last the winter and
now they don’t have to be seen as retreating. They can
and should rally.

Leefeller,

Nothing could be further from reality. I’ve been here for a month attempting to prevent the message from getting lost. You failed to hear. You failed, miserably, to see.

Excuse my outpouring but, you suck. You suck at reasoning and you suck at being reasonable. You have only yourself to blame!

objective observer, November 15 at 10:30 am

Speaking only for myself I vigorously reject your call for violence and state vehemently that it takes more courage to remain nonviolent than to engage the 1% on their own terms.

You might learn this as (if) you mature.

Jumping up and down with glee, hands rubbing together with animated anticipation like a buzzard waiting for the demise, the only thing wrong with my statement is Imax as a buzzard dost not have hands,... so tis rubbing wings together!

Imax your jubilation is really showing, are you pissing your pants?

Well!.... I am glad that is all over, maybe we can get back to some good disenfranchising!

As I said, they might be down, but they sure as hell ain’t out:
http://thinkprogress.org/progress-report/

Supreme Court of the State of New York
Deputy Mayor Filing

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/266733-citys-brief-opposing-stay-of-eviction.html

It’s time for an actual plan for lasting change.

Poll: Fewer voters view OWS favorably
Posted on November 15, 2011 at 9:30 am by Jimmy Vielkind, Capitol bureau in Occupy Albany, Polls

A poll released this morning by the Siena Research Institute found the number of New Yorkers with a favorable view of Occupy Wall Street has declined.

Siena also found in this poll that 66 percent of New Yorkers don’t feel the protesters represent “the 99 percent.” Says poll spokesman Steve Greenberg:

  “By two-to-one, voters say that the Occupy Wall Street movement does not represent 99 percent of Americans.  Even a majority of Democrats – a majority of whom have a favorable view of Occupy Wall Street – does not believe the movement represents 99 percent of people.  By a smaller, but still strong 58-37 percent margin, voters – including those from every party and region – believe that the Occupy Wall Street movement does not have a clear message.”

  “When it comes to how voters feel about whether the people engaged in the movement should be allowed to occupy public parks around the clock, the answer is ‘yes.’  By a 57-40 percent margin, including a majority of Democrats, independents and voters from every region, New Yorkers believe that the demonstrators should be able to stay in the parks all day and all night.”

Richard Dougherty

“Me thinks that that occupy wall street have missed the boat. Chelsea Clinton
hedge fund reporter who happens to be married to Marc Mezvinsky a hedge fund
manager”

what the hell are you talking about? What’s Chelsea Clinton done to ddeserve
protest?

Shoot the pianna player!  And dang.  I was watching the live
stream and the report at 3:25 was that the judge overturned
the restraining order and all the OWS people started filing back
into the Park!  But then I just looked in again and it looks like the
State Supreme Court ruled against the OWSers.  So dang again.
And since I am the piano player, guess I won’t be shooting m’self
in any event.  LOL

Win a few lose a few in the same 5 minutes!  Well I think these
folks will be very creative and find new ways to continue their activities. 
They really ought to go for the federal Supreme Court since it is a
Constitutional issue of the right to assemble, freedom of speech…
whatever that might mean.  I don’t think this is over by a long shot. 
OWSers are getting support from places they never dreamed of.  More
and more celebrities are chiming in which will appeal to more and more
of the public, and as the word gets around and it will instantaneously via
the electronics communications devices the assembly, OWS will unify
even tighter.  So well, sigh… and I’ll just continue to send in whatever
resources I can afford. 

Turning attention for a bit to Wisconsin tonight.  But time for other
things in life.

@balkas at 9:46am:
“...no protest in u.s even delayed a planned u.s or
u.s/nato aggression [‘mission, eh] let alone prevented, or stopped once
under way..”

But results of actions are not always instant.  If the youth in the U.S. hadn’t
complained vociferously about the Vietnam War, and just went along to get
along, it might still be going on. Because ‘it’s the money, stupid’: a very powerful motivator. 

‘Hell no, we won’t go…on with your silly game’ said to ‘Wall Street’ may not be as
clear and cogent a chant as an anti-war rally, but it is a teachable moment: the people
are mad as hell, and won’t put up with it anymore.  Demonstrating that they will not
go gentle into the dark night of fascism will go a long ways to keeping it from
happening; doing nothing would hasten that dystopian day.  The radicalized reaction to the
arrogance of the upper 1% will do a better job of it next time; this was a prelude to its Spring. 

As for your later comment that “money is not root of all evil”: A good point, that
the true root of waywardness lies in the hearts of individuals; but ‘money’ - and
especially interest-bearing money - brings out the competitiveness in the
beast, rather than the cooperative element; which is in there also, since we are
‘spiritual beings having a human experience’ - and that aspect of our nature is
more powerful than the ‘clever mammalian’ one anyway.  More powerful, because it is
our true, imperishable nature; that part of us that stands behind our turn in the
school of life, seeing how we will respond to the various lessons in the
classroom.  How we will respond, and how we will grow from them.  Ready,
now, to experience a Great Turning on our lovely old, beleaguered old planet
Earth.

Which is what the Occupiers are feeling, beneath their inchoate rage: a truth
that is trying to break through the concrete jungle of the modern age, which
has lost its compass, and doesn’t know precisely where it’s going, just knows, deep down inside,
that it needs to go somewhere, not stay in the uncomfortable and unviable moment of
‘business as usual’.  Business will not ever be ‘as usual’ again.  Its time has
come, to pass.

Sher—-what judge ruled in favor of OWS???

were you mistaking the earlier injunction with a favorable ruling from the hearing?

Interestingly, i think that the NYPD did OWS a favor in clearing that park…...

and two people (who are friends of my son) posted these opinions

http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/11/15/368459/getting-kicked-out-of-
zuccotti-park-is-probably-good-for-ows/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-bloomberg-do-
occupy-wall-street-a-favor/2011/08/25/gIQAvQURON_blog.html

Occupy Minnesota had the local county officials rule that the People’s Plaza (formerly known as Government Plaza) inn Minneapolis had to quit.  The deadline was 10 pm last night. I left there last night at midnight. People are still there, as I type.

I fact Occupy Minnesota has now spread to include the Occupations of homes being foreclosed on.

We are growing and are more determined that before.

Oh yes and boggity blogs about blogs blogging about the importance of bloviating blogs. Truthdigger style and providing political cover about one wing of the corporate plutocracy. After all- it is a the eevilllllll Republicans who are in cahoots with Wall Street. Did ya not get the memo?

Oh dear- there goes that Truthdigger Of The Week Award, once again.

Grin

Gasp-

Obviously, the point of my drawing attention to the language of pollution and disease used first by rightist columnists and bloggers, and later echoed by supposed liberals and moderates, and to its resonance with Nazi and American racist propaganda, was not that the protesters were being hauled off to death camps.  As I said, it is a symptom (if I may indulge in the same conceptual framework as the rightists have been using) of radicalization of the ruling class and their servitors and fans towards the Right.  I take it this is an effect of a deepening economic and political crisis.

Thanks to that judge!  Mayor Bloomberg has, once again, shown whose side he’s
on. That said, I’m glad about the raid because this will guarantee that this
movement spreads.
http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2011/11/un-occupied/

Tents are back in too!  Yayyyyy! and Yeowie Kazowie!

The judge ruled in favor of OWS!  Yayyyyyyy! 

I think on reflection it was Portland where the judge upheld the
Occupiers.  I’ll have to check myself out!

Yes, heterochromatic.  This is the second judge to rule in favor of
the Occupiers, it happened in Oakland a week or so ago.  I’m not
keeping a running log so I can’t cite the day.  I think ‘showing
cause’ to keep the Occupiers out will not hold up.  Watching the
Live in NYC feed apparently the police are violating the court order
to allow reoccupation, are arresting some protesters and some
injured, the police pushed the news media away. There is a 3:15pm
verdict due from a judge who will rule on the city’s opposition to the
restraining order.  It will be just a few more minutes as it is immanent
in NYC right now.  Just reported the police are coming up on the
barraicade.  We will see….

I don’t think it is the White House or the Military!  Although it is
noticeable there is a concerted effort by several cities to evict the
Occupiers today.  Regardless of authorities willingness to risk
unintended consequences (I’m guessing lawsuits and other legal actions
against the municipalities), I have a hunch (meaning no empirical data to
back me up, except what Occupiers are saying themselves), they are
more than a metaphor, are not simply mythological Norns and Vanas. 
10,000 in Portland,

Protesters come in many disparate ideologicals and liberals, political
independents, anarchists, socialists, libertarians, or environmentalists
are OWS’s composition.  Mostly young adults were the first ones, using
electronic networking that also has attracted older adults who see such a
movement has viability.This is a real composite representation of the
society-at-large. 

A judge later issued an order that allows protesters to return “with tents
and other property previously utilized.” City Room – NYT Nov. 15,
2011 Updated 1:45pm.  For updates and a streaming live feed go to
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/updates-on-the-
clearing-of-zuccotti-park/?src=twt&twt=cityroom#judge-says-
protesters-can-return-to-park-for-now
(URL used for extra-long webaddress.

While it is sportive to some degree to compare the characterization of
today’s Occupiers with Nazi anti-Semitic use of dehumanizing language,
it is far from equivalent.  Jews were murdered by the millions, Occupiers
are not being systematically exterminated even with what looks a
synchronized effort by various Occupied cities.  I think we ought to keep
our rational heads and not fall into the trap of the anarchists.  This
movement is peaceful, the removal of the Occupiers in New York this
morning was described by all of the news channels as “peaceful.”  No one
was hurt, and they will be moving back later today!  Police everywhere
and through time have exercised brutal action.  It should be expected.

for me, it all boils down to this [and to an apodictic truth- aristotle]: we
all swim in one and only genetic pool [with its goodness for and
‘badness’ against all of us]; thus, we must swim also in one and only
swimming pool.

since this desirable principle is being demonized in all supremacist
lands, i recognize no law, god, cult, religion, duma, parliament,
congress; reject all isms {catholicism, capitalism, socialism,
communism, fascism; being the emery in human relations and not ever
possible to know} all political or religious ‘sciences’, competition, 
meritocracy, ‘stardoms’, cult of the personality, abuse of money [as a
tool, money is ok; not, of course, if abused, as it had been for the last
4 millennia]

true, very true, abuse of us started long before money had been
invented [s’mwhere in anatolia ca 3.5 k y ago]; thus, money is not root
of all evil—root of all evil on intrapersonal, interpersonal, interethnic,
interfamily, intrafamily, intercult is, to me, personal supremacism. tnx

Sher—da judge issued a “show cause” and the city will attempt to do so at the
hearing which is probably going on right now.

A few observations:

0.  Occupations may now have more power as myth, legend, metaphor than as actually-existing physical entities, an undesirable consequence for authorities, leadership, ruling class.

1.  Close coordination of evictions suggests orders from a higher authority.  White House?  Military?

2.  Authorities (local or higher-up) are willing to risk many unintended consequences to suppress public dissent, suggesting urgency whose cause is not readily apparent.

3.  Disease and dirt tropes are characteristic of extreme authoritarians when confronted by ‘disobedience’; compare Nazi anti-Semitic propaganda in the 1930s and Dixiecrat anti-Black propaganda in the ‘50s and ‘60s.  ‘Moderate’ and ‘liberal’ leaders and media have fed this trope in the present case, indicating radicalization to the Right.

4.  Eurozone may be folding up financially, which will intensify American depression, leading to domestic political trouble.

Now it has become chrystal clear that we must form a strong majority of the 99% must OCCUPY our Consti-tutionally guaranteed Rights.  We must get up out of that lounge chair, and turn off that mind-numbing TV.  It’s the chance of our lifetimes to act for
coming generations.
  One thing you can do right in your own neighborhood, and it works wonders:  Find a neighbor whose house has been foreclosed unfairly.  Get a group of friends together and offer to help by making a call on the bank involved to talk over how the mortgage can be stabilized and the foreclosure stopped.
  And beyond that, the next step toward tomorrow.?What else were you born for?

Don’t despair because of the latest developments. However long OWS lasts in its
present form, it has already been a success. If the mere fact that it has taken place at all can be recognized by enough people as being a positive event, this first step will lead to further developments.  No, it hasn’t produced instant gratification,  although who knows what exactly those demanding concrete plans have in mind. We are not newborn babies anymore so it is now time to grow up, abandon instant gratification and understand that to change anything in the power complex will involve a long process.

Meanwhile, those who find no value in the OWS protests can expect the crumbling
of democracy to grow in a neatly organized manner.

Thanks, OWS.

Ana, camping in the park is no longer a good idea.  It served a purpose but it’s
played out.

Daily gathering for “assembly” and consider specific actions throughout the winter
seems like a way to go.

They can’t camp in the park.  It was the camping that got people excited, which was the point of the exercise.

odd thing is that Bloomberg said that the protesters could return after the
Sanitation Department finished disinfecting and cleaning the park.

‘Feces, urine, blood, body lice, fights, rampant theft, rampant vandalism, assaults on hundreds’ exactly how I see most of our congress too! As the 1 percent.  But don’t forget to also include the the cockroaches and rats who run the halls of congress known as lobbyists, super packs and 403c’s!  Yes it fits together very nicely!

Asking for fairness, is hard work, being the recipient of disenfranchisement is even harder when inequality permeates from self proclaimed lords of entitlement, over lowly serfs, the riffraff, the servants as they are, yes the 99 percent must never be allowed to become too uppity.

constitutionally, u.s police is morally and legally obligated to police parks,
streets and even to remove any squatters from parks, streets, etc.

recall that politicos often say: we are a nation of laws; u try to violate any
law, and u’d be hauled away before a judge and probably jailed or
punished in some manner.

lesson: don’t protest and last of all gather in large numbers in parks,
streets, etc.

just recall one lesson: no protest in u.s even delayed a planned u.s or
u.s/nato aggression [‘mission, eh] let alone prevented, or stopped once
under way..

only ?all cia/fbi/police/army echelons, judges, MSM editors/columnists,
billionaires, multimillionaires, politicos, clergy decide when tp wage war,
how to wage wars for poverty, drug usage, etc.

it is even a legal and and moral imperative that u.s ‘laws’ be ignored
‘lawfully’. 

so, organize. go door to door. pass leaflets. stand on street corners. i’ve
done it before yrs after u.s/nato invasion of iraq.
and i spite of the fact that at least in one of our organizational meetings i
said that no protest in u.s had ever even delayed a war.
none of the 50 or so members responded.

however, in canada we have a strong socialist party and some value may
have accrued to it. in any case, we have more freedoms, healthcare,
justice here that american sin u.s. tnx

for you who speak against this movement…
whose bottom line strives to help 99%!...
your excuses become superficial exclusions…
whether rich yourself or feeding greed’s discontent!...

http://occupywallst.org

Da Judge put a stop to da poleese and da mayor.  The power
of a restraining order is bigger than the baton.  Liberals and
progressives gave a big cheer for da judge.

Authorities around the country thought very carefully before moving in to remove the Occupy protesters by force.  They made their decision to act based in large part on their sense that they have a great deal of public support for such actions.

In Canada it wasn’t hard to see how they could come to this conclusion.  Not only was there little opposition to evicting the protesters, the public has cheered them on.  It has become clear that the worst enemy of the people can sometimes be the
people themselves.  Read about what is happening here: 

http://www.josephcouture.com  “Get Rosa!”

I am curious to see whether liberals and progressives, now that they don’t have a bunch of hippies in a park to fight their battles for them, do anything themselves.

If only the NYPD had gotten tough with Wall Street during the financial crisis.  I would have loved to have seen the Goldman and B of A boys thrown into paddy wagons for their endless securities fraud violations. Its so much easier to roust the poor, the young and the homeless, for daring to protest the plutocracy and for the crime of being poor.

I think the Occupations will be far more potent as myth and legend than as physical reality, with all its details and difficulties.  Busting them may prove to have been a really dumb move.

Meanwhile I’m wondering where the energy that caused people to dance in the streets when Obama was elected, and fueled the Occupations, will show up next.  ‘The repressed returns in monstrous form.’  Let’s hope it’s not too monstrous, eh?

Top Ten OWS eviction tweets

10. @freddoso Cabs and paddy wagons pulling up at
OWS. Your choice, occupiers.

9. @stacyhyatt Where is #Obama? #OWS needs a
Community Organizer!

8. @ExJon Nothing funnier than hearing Marxists
complain about the state taking their property. #OWS

7. @derekahunter Funny how quickly the #OWS crowd
went from “Everything belongs to everyone” to “Hey,
that’s my stuff!” #OccupyWallStNYC #MicCheck #p2

6. @KerryPicket This really is like watching a “very
special” episode of Hoarders #ows

5. @KMBReferee Occupiers: The 1st Amendment gives you
the right to protest. It doesn’t give you the right
to take over and live anywhere you want. #ows

4. @theurv I wonder if @BarackObama is up watching
#NYPD #OccupyWallSt #ZuccottiPark from the situation
room…

3. @AndrewBreitbart All we are saying, is give
RapeMurderSuicidePublicPooingGropingPubicLice a
Chance! #OWS

2. @mattyglesias Given #OWS’s lack of specific
demands, eviction by the cops was the only possible
endgame.

1. @davidcolburn People are camping out in tents for
the next five days for tickets to the Twilight
premiere. WHERE ARE THE RIOT POLICE? #occupyoakland
#ows

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/morning-examiner-whimpering-end-ows

The story in every city was virtually the same. What
was at first considered a cute protest overwhelmingly
supported by the media and liberal politicians,
steadily turned into violent, drug infested, public
health risks.

For conservatives, this story’s arc was inevitable.
This movie had played out before, on a smaller scale,
40-years ago on Alcatraz Island. Liberals, on the
other hand, are perpetually disappointed that their
best intentions never seem to work out in real life.
And so it appears we are destined to be forced to
watch this movie over and over.

Even before Zuccotti Park had been liquidated, one of
the founder’s of the Occupy movement, Adbusters
editor-in-chief Kalle Lasn told The Guardian that
perhaps it was time for OWS to pack up for the
winter: “The other side is owning the narrative right
now. People are talking about drugs and criminals at
OWS.” Lasn now says OWS will be back for a “spring
offensive” with fresh targets.

The poor, and thanks to the Occupy movement
increasingly poorer, City of Oakland will not get to
wait that long. Last night, the remnants of Occupy
Oakland met at the Oakland Public Library to decide
what to do next. Three options were proposed:
Reoccupy Frank Ogawa Plaza, occupy Snow Park (a
smaller park near the downtown), or occupy vacant
buildings in Oakland. The third option received the
loudest applause from the crowd. That isn’t going to
end well.

@Imax
“Feces, urine, blood, body lice, fights, rampant theft, rampant vandalism, assaults on hundreds of the 99%, assaults on small and large businesses, assaults on the police and assaults on each other”
In the streets of New York? what else is new. The basic requirements of people living together always have to be met - for whatever reason, under whatever conditions - organization is a form of power - without it, we have an impotent mess. That’s all it proves. Look at all the other protests of history - in Egypt - during th sixties - it was never pretty.

it was easy to see this coming. So easy, in fact, that a small few here predicted precisely this reaction over a month ago.

Feces, urine, blood, body lice, fights, rampant theft, rampant vandalism, assaults on hundreds of the 99%, assaults on small and large businesses, assaults on the police and assaults on each other.

Such are the reasons every local population near these camps in the U.S. and Canada want them swept away. Occupy’s inability or refusal to control idiotic petulant children (ardee) has ruined the original message. Not only did Occupy create a spectacle, it created a danger laden spectacle. A spectacle that all but a small few care to see or encourage.

99% of the American public understand all too well. Petulant children (see ardee’s posts) should not be given what they seek. - Simple, basic, human-nature.

For all of you who refused to see: Excuse my outpouring but, you suck! You suck at reasoning and you suck at being reasonable! You have only yourselves to blame.

“The Tea Party they ain’t.”  Yes, they are not
supported by the Koch brothers and other right wing
organizations who do do much to poison the atmosphere
both figuratively and literally with their lies and
distortions. We need more anarchy in America and not
the chaos of our present disaster of a country.

If the 99 percent where really protesting, the power of the people would prevail - unfortunately - what fuels the corporatocracy - apathy and safety have weakened the spine of what’s left of democracy

Ahh, the return of Marshall. He should feel right at home with his small contingent of right wing fanatics and propagandists now here.

I suggest that his definition of those exercising their right of assembly and free speech, as mean spirited and false as it is, should prepare all who have never had the dubious distinction of reading his slanted views for what is certainly to follow.

OK, that’s the last straw, it’s time to occupy the doughnut shops.

“The capital” implies some organization and purpose - neither of which these
protests have.  They’ve degenerated into encampments for the homeless,
malcontents and wayward anarchists.  Perhaps now the press will stop gussying
up these gatherings into more than they are and stop ascribing significance to
what is impulsive, unfocused activism run amok - undone by their vague and
disparate goals.  The Tea Party they ain’t.