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Ear to the Ground

Negotiators Lower Expectations Ahead of Mideast Peace Talks

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Posted on Jan 2, 2012
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Israeli and Palestinian negotiators are scheduled to meet in Jordan on Tuesday, but don’t expect fireworks. Nothing has changed since Palestinians threw up their hands at continued Israeli settlement construction.

Peace talks fell apart in September 2010 and it looks like they’ll stay that way. According to the BBC, “The priority for both sides will be to avoid blame if the process cannot be restarted.”

Back in 2010, Palestinian negotiators said they would boycott peace talks if Israel approved the development of new settlements on occupied Palestinian territory and President Obama backed that position. However Israel’s conservative prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, claimed the need to accommodate “natural growth” as he approved new construction. The U.S. quickly backed down and the Palestinians decided to abandon peace negotiations to instead seek statehood recognition at the United Nations.  —PZS

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By Cliff Carson, January 5, 2012 at 5:07 am Link to this comment

By IMax, January 3 at 4:49 am

“Clearly Hamas and Hezbollah, that is to say, Iran and Syria, are not interested in anything that looks like an understanding for peace with Israel.  Israel, in turn, want nothing to do with any negotiations with Hezbollah or Hamas.”

The only Peace with Israel that can be realized is that the Palestinians and other residents of what Ben-Gurion described as the borders of Biblical Israel vacate the land because the Zionist movement to restore Biblical Israel is in progress and has been since the plan was hatched around 1900. 

There was to be nothing according to the Plan other than cleansing the land of the non-Jewish inhabitants and re-establishing Eretz Israel as instructed by God.

This has been the Zionist dream from the beginning and it is still in progress and will continue to be until it is realized or it is totally defeated.

Israel has not and until the Plan is completed will never consider peace - period.

Just keep in mind IMAX that the Nation Israel is older then either Hamas or Hezbollah.  They came into existence as a resistance to the Nation Israel long after the beginning of the Nakba.

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By IMax, January 3, 2012 at 4:56 pm Link to this comment

hetero,

It’s not important.

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By heterochromatic, January 3, 2012 at 4:42 pm Link to this comment

IMx—what do you want to know?

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By IMax, January 3, 2012 at 4:39 pm Link to this comment

Hetero,

You leave me stumped with your 11:52a and 12:19p comments.

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By heterochromatic, January 3, 2012 at 4:08 pm Link to this comment

and there are some few decent and enlightened Palestinians as well !!!!!!

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gad, you’re a slimy thing.

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By Arabian Sinbad, January 3, 2012 at 3:58 pm Link to this comment

Sorry! Embedding from my previous post was wrong; please try this link!

http://youtu.be/LEMygqMI-fg

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By Arabian Sinbad, January 3, 2012 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment

It’s people like these that might bring peace to Palestine after the fanatic “heterochromatics” are defeated and shamed for their ignorance, fanaticism and fascism! Watch and learn that there are some decent and enlightened Jews working for peace with truth and justice!

<iframe width=“420” height=“315” src=“http://www.youtube.com/embed/LEMygqMI-fg” frameborder=“0” allowfullscreen></iframe>

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By heterochromatic, January 3, 2012 at 3:06 pm Link to this comment

what I hoped that you would understand is that I meant to convey that some
would applaud a peace in the Middle East that was based on the termination of
israel….

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By IMax, January 3, 2012 at 3:02 pm Link to this comment

hetero,

What are you saying? Being disagreeable is your default position? lol

I said that many on this Web site desire no peace between Israel and its neighbors.  Exactly what do you disagree with?

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By heterochromatic, January 3, 2012 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment

IMax—I misunderstood you not at all.


you’ll notice that I said peace in the region rather than peace with israel.

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By IMax, January 3, 2012 at 2:19 pm Link to this comment

hetero,

You misunderstand why I say many here are not interested in any solution which forms a peace with Israel. 

I’ll leave the rest for you to decide.

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By heterochromatic, January 3, 2012 at 1:43 pm Link to this comment

ASS~~~~ the sincere sullen superiority of the fool fits you well.

stay as small as you are and forego trying to understand other people’s POV.

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By Arabian Sinbad, January 3, 2012 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment

A thread opening with a senseless comment from the fanatic and misinformed “heterochromatic” does not deserve comments from informed and sensible commentators beyond saying that these so-called Peace Talks are dead on arrival for reasons that the petty-minded ones, like “heterochromatic,” will never understand!

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By heterochromatic, January 3, 2012 at 1:19 pm Link to this comment

Imax—-I believe that you’ll have to demonstrate who it is that prefers perpetual
war in stead of peace on terms that suit them?

who the hell doesn’t prefer a triumph for their concept of justice over a struggle
where there’s still doubt as to the outcome?

do you posit that we have olde-0fashioned fascists believing that men’s souls
must be forged in the purifying fires of war?

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By IMax, January 3, 2012 at 1:07 pm Link to this comment

hetero - “everyone here wants peace in the region.”

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I believe, over time, you’ll find that is not the case.

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By heterochromatic, January 3, 2012 at 12:52 pm Link to this comment

IMax, everyone here wants peace in the region. what people disagree on are the
terms of that peace…..

I doubt that you and I would agree upon terms.

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By who'syourdebs, January 3, 2012 at 11:55 am Link to this comment

My God, more filler! The only thing here is the quote from the BBC. Everyone must be taking a long vacation holiday. Mr. Scheer, are you listening? Oh, you’re probably on vacation, too.

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By IMax, January 3, 2012 at 5:49 am Link to this comment

hetero,

Hezbollah too has condemned the PA for holding talks with Israel.

Clearly Hamas and Hezbollah, that is to say, Iran and Syria, are not interested in anything that looks like an understanding for peace with Israel.  Israel, in turn, want nothing to do with any negotiations with Hezbollah or Hamas.

The very definition of a quagmire.

On the positive side; every other Arab country engages in open trade and participates in cultural exchanges with Israel.

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You may have noticed that very few on this Web site desire peace between Israel and its neighbors.

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By heterochromatic, January 2, 2012 at 11:22 pm Link to this comment

and Hamas is telling the PA not to talk, because there might be a chance for
something decent to be be accomplished and neither Hamas nor their Iranian
sponsor want anything decent

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