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Nader Predicts Second Term for Obama

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Posted on Apr 27, 2011
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In a column for Bloomberg, Ralph Nader has outlined the reasons he believes President Obama will not be defeated in 2012.

Though the piece certainly doesn’t read as an endorsement for Obama—it’s more critique than anything—Nader argued that a combination of Republican shortcomings and the president’s friendly relationship with big business will carry him through. Some of the points have been heavily covered previously, such as the lack of strong challengers on both sides, but Nader also looks at the effects of U.S. governors’ divergent approaches toward workers’ rights.  —KDG

Bloomberg:

By 2014, Obamacare will deliver some 30 million subsidized customers to health-insurance companies. The auto industry is forever grateful for its bailout. Obama hasn’t moved on corporate-tax reform, tax shelters for the wealthy, or the preferential capital-gains tax treatment on the 20 percent service fees of hedge fund managers. Don’t forget last December when Obama agreed to extended tax cuts for the rich while the budget deficit gets larger.

The military-industrial complex about which President Dwight Eisenhower warned in his farewell address 50 years ago, is still uncontrollable, leading departing Defense Secretary Robert Gates to express serious concerns. Obama has even surprised George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and his cohort of neocons, who can scarcely believe how militarily aggressive Obama has been on just about every move that liberals used to call impeachable offenses by former President George W. Bush.

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By elisalouisa, April 30, 2011 at 6:18 pm Link to this comment

“If a politician has good ideas, no power on earth can stop them.”

Such an outlandish statement causes one to reconsider the merit of your other posts.

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By Lafayette, April 30, 2011 at 11:22 am Link to this comment

Let’s just say your beliefs as to how politics work in this country are outdated.

Say what you like but your arguments explain nothing. You are arguing cause and effect without any proof of relationship.

If a politician has good ideas, no power on earth can stop them. Unless, of course, they are caught in bed with someone they should not be with.

Then all hell breaks loose. But that’s because of American prudery and not politics.

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By elisalouisa, April 30, 2011 at 6:16 am Link to this comment

The power/elite make certain candidates who oppose their views and won’t play ball are knocked out in the early rounds so to speak. Paul Wellstone,  former Senator from Minnesota is one example. Challenging Bush and and his gang as to the war in Iraq and other policies got him six feet under. You can’t believe the power elite are that deeply embedded? Let’s just say your beliefs as to how
politics work in this country are outdated.

http://www.alternet.org/story/14399

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By Inherit The Wind, April 30, 2011 at 5:53 am Link to this comment

Lafayette, April 28 at 10:04 am Link to this comment

DEEP DOODOO

  Nader Predicts Second Term for Obama

Me too, so that makes two of us. BFD ...
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I tried to say that, but you said it SO much better!

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By Lafayette, April 30, 2011 at 5:34 am Link to this comment

el: Obama’s loyalty has always been to the power elite who put him in.

Oh, really? Pray tell all, how did the power elite do this?

Do you really ‘n truly think that it takes just money to become PotUS. Then you ARE naive.

Besides, what PotUS in modern history has ever been elected without a well-garnished Treasury? If there is some other way of getting elected then do share that precious information with us.

If you decry Sleaze in High Places, which is not a bad idea, then vote into the Legislative houses those who fight corruption/cronyism with a vengeance. To do so effectively you will want to consider their Net Worth estimates.

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By Lafayette, April 29, 2011 at 11:03 pm Link to this comment

ROADKILL ON THE HIGHWAY OF LIFE

Mack: He wrote a book entitled, “Only the Rich Can Save Us”.

I can’t agree with this silly premise, but when one observes how Fat, Dumb and Complacent we, the sheeple, have become then I am left to wonder.

Any democracy is only as strong as its weakest link, which is the individual voter. The present mentality of Jack ‘n Jill SixPack is one not terribly conducive to good government so fixated is it on personal pleasure and comfort. Which is a fault of the Me-Me-Me Generation.

The underbelly of the nation is soft and decaying, so why should the political system be any different - when it is manipulated by such immoral and greedy individuals?

They are pocketing the greater part of the economic pie and laughing derisively at the rest of us - taken for Roadkill on the Highway of Life.

God preordained a Darwinian America that way. Didn’t you know ... ?

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By Virginia777, April 29, 2011 at 10:20 pm Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind:

“Never assume.” 

One can hope, true.

“It only makes an ASS out of U to ME.”

oh well. Lol.

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By Virginia777, April 29, 2011 at 10:17 pm Link to this comment

elisalouisa:

“Why would the oligarchy seek another puppet when Obama plays the role so well?”

Give me a break.

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By elisalouisa, April 28, 2011 at 5:13 pm Link to this comment

Why would the oligarchy seek another puppet when Obama plays the role so well? 
Obama’s loyalty has always been to the power elite who put him in. His constituents provided the illusion of a democratic government. Go ahead, vote for whomever and see where it gets you.  Whether Democrat, Republican or third party, only oligarchy puppets are elected or for that matter put on the ticket. Big money sees to that. The Republicans don’t need a viable candidate. They have
what they want in Obama. Nader’s right.

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By Lafayette, April 28, 2011 at 10:04 am Link to this comment

DEEP DOODOO

Nader Predicts Second Term for Obama

Me too, so that makes two of us. BFD ...

Of the GOP lineup, who is - really ‘n truly - a serious challenger? Romney? Ryan? The Donald? Palin (God forbid!)? Gingrich the gadfly?

Not one on their list of “presidentiable” candidates has the intellectual heft of BO. Regardless of what you think of him, the guy has smarts.

I don’t decry the fact that he must get the help of plutocrat money to get elected. That’s a rule of the game in America and we are complicit in the manipulation.

If we, the sheeple, did not want it that way, it would simply not be. When pollsters ask Americans what they are looking for in terms of a Strong President, the answer is boringly the same. Jobs, jobs, jobs. As if the PotUS were that capable of promising them.

A PotUS can talk up a storm about a “strong and vibrant economy” but there is not that much he can do about it. He can, otoh, get us into Financial DeepDooDoo by spending willy-nilly on aimless wars over in the sandbox. He can as well relax federal oversight of key markets - since the PotUS depends upon BigContributors to get elected - in the name of Free Enterprise.

But that will not, we have learned, get us necessarily what we want. In fact, we obtain the opposite.

MY POINT

So, what is the answer? What is that we should indeed want?

That the richness of this Great Economy of ours (worth more than 13 trillion dollars a year) be shared more equitably by its 365 million inhabitants.

And that is simply not the case. We’ve not only been had but we’ve been had royally by a class of politicians who don’t deserve to sit in service to their constituencies as our representatives.

For Income Fairness to become the hallmark of this nation, we need fundamental changes - top to bottom - in its Taxation. Which has been warped to favor a particular class of people that helped Reckless Ronnie Reagan get elected into the Oval Office. A favor he returned handsomely to his friends by reducing greatly their Tax Burden to one of the lowest in the nation’s history.

I say, Tax The Piss Outta Them! We have a miserable lower class and a deeply pained middle-class. And the GOP would have Uncle Sam make them even more miserable and pained? By doing, at the very same time, yet another tax favor for the Filthy Rich?

Ya gotta be kidding ...

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By Blackspeare, April 28, 2011 at 8:46 am Link to this comment

Obama, as well as Nader, know that he has only one competitor and that is the economy.  If the economy stays even by November 2012, then Obama gets his second term.  Even his misguided foreign adventures won’t matter because an all volunteer military assuages any dissent——as you noticed the anti-war movement can gain no traction. On the other hand, if the economy tanks then even Crusader Rabbit could win the race!

As a side note I believe the Federal Reserve under Bernanke as made an error.  By not raising the prime interest rate it assures continued inflation.  It’s a bad symptom of capitalism that inflation is actually good for business——low interest rates spurs business and a cheapened dollar improves foreign exchange.  Of course, it makes imports more expensive.  Once again the Federal Reserve has chosen Wall Street over Main Street.  Bernanke and Obama are betting that the business environment will improve before full inflation hits.  But make no mistake about it, the USA is in for some serious inflation——but will the impact be felt before November 2012.

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By Salome, April 28, 2011 at 6:56 am Link to this comment
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The difference between Obama and Nader is Obama is a pragmatist, Nader is an idealist.

Obama agreed to the tax extensions for the wealthy because the deal included an extension of unemployment benefits for the 99ers, AND continued tax cuts for the middle class.  If he had not taken the deal those things would not have happened.

Nader would have won the battle on tax cuts; and lost the war on helping the middle class and the poor.

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By Inherit The Wind, April 28, 2011 at 6:46 am Link to this comment

Virginia777, April 28 at 12:13 am Link to this comment

ITW:

You don’t care for the idea?

Figures. Lol.
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Never assume.  It only makes an ASS out of U to ME.

All I said was it wasn’t much of a reach to predict Obama will be re-elected.  You only have 2 choices: He will or he won’t win a 2nd term.  And who, pray tell, is in ANY position to defeat him???

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By Michael Strong, April 28, 2011 at 3:18 am Link to this comment
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Voting for Obama seemed the only smart thing to do. My preferred candidate, Cynthia McKinney, didn’t have a prayer to get there and I sure didn’t want any Republican (2000 showed me the futility of voting for my picks, regardless of party). So I voted for Barack Obama.

Couldn’t have been worse. He didn’t just waste my vote, Obama massively, even actively, betrayed my vote, and continues to do so. So, no more. Even without a prayer to get my choice, there is no sense in not at least “wasting” my vote where I want my vote.

The only thing left beyond that is to just stop voting, on purpose. I’ve only missed three times since first voting in 1968. But maybe all I’m doing is helping to put window dressing on the legitimacy of voting, as if it still matters, now that private companies control the voting process with their voting machines and voting tabulation software.

At this point it seems I can’t even hope Obama falls off Air Force One’s access ramp (stairs) or gets hit by a bus. They (the real deciders, the corporate powers in the near background) will just switch in another shill. Corporations own most of the field and control the selection process.

Cripes, just a few years ago I would have fitted myself with a tinfoil hat for saying something like that and made fun of me. Hard to believe. This is not the USA I grew up in (said while noting that the USA I thought I grew up in wasn’t so real either, but now it is way over the bend).

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By kerryrose, April 28, 2011 at 1:48 am Link to this comment

Nader… now there’s a name you don’t see on TruthDig much, or anywhere else as a matter of fact.  We should be ashamed of how the Dems have marginalized him.

Nader has written many recent books and articles and this is the best TruthDig can do for him?

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By Virginia777, April 28, 2011 at 12:13 am Link to this comment

gerard:

You are dead-on, as always.

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By Virginia777, April 28, 2011 at 12:13 am Link to this comment

ITW:

You don’t care for the idea?

Figures. Lol.

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By Virginia777, April 28, 2011 at 12:12 am Link to this comment

Nadar predicts second term for Obama.

AWESOME!!

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, April 27, 2011 at 9:43 pm Link to this comment
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The republicans are in trouble for a long time to come as far as the white house goes.  Any number of whack jobs can get elected to congress but the country as a whole won’t put one in the WH.

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By gerard, April 27, 2011 at 9:15 pm Link to this comment

Actually how mahy voters are upset enough to work to organize and agree to vote for the same write-in—say, Bernie Sanders, for example?  Statistically, what are we really looking at here?

Seems to me that might be a reasonable step in the right direction—maybe better than not voting? Or voting the either/or travesty again?

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By John Poole, April 27, 2011 at 8:04 pm Link to this comment
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I guess this shows there are plenty of Obama dead enders around. How pathetic.
If you vote for either party you are admitting you have given up on even
imagining a better world. Go ahead jump the moat for a day inside the castle.
You’ll have the drawbridge slammed on your fingers soon enough and then you’ll
regret you are just a dead ender for a candidate who is disingenuous.

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By Queenie, April 27, 2011 at 8:02 pm Link to this comment

I’d like to see Bernie Sanders run for President. I’d vote for him. If not, I’m voting Green Party, or Socialist Party.

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By MeHere, April 27, 2011 at 5:53 pm Link to this comment

As PatrickHenry says regarding Nader:

“It is not a wasted vote to elect towards what his platform represents.”

Any progressive third party with a decent platform will do in order to make the
statement that the Democratic party is a fraud. The hope is that, in time, a third
party will get built up and become a real contender…..maybe in another 75
years…lol.  But, kidding aside, a wasted vote _is_ voting Democratic. Don’t
worry about Republicans winning another election —at least we know who
we’re dealing with.

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By Inherit The Wind, April 27, 2011 at 4:54 pm Link to this comment

Wow! What a gutsy call!

Reminds me of the old business adage: “Nobody ever got fired for recommending IBM.”

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By TDoff, April 27, 2011 at 4:18 pm Link to this comment

Privately, Ralph thinks the 2012 campaign looks like a choice between ‘A Tea Party bag, a GOP nobody, or our current president, Bush-Light’.
We might be better served if we just made the presidency a bonus prize in a national lottery.

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By PatrickHenry, April 27, 2011 at 3:54 pm Link to this comment

I’d like to see Nader throw his hat into the ring again.

It is not a wasted vote to elect towards what his platform represents.

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