“Jerusalem, Zionists, and some elements within the Left have demonised Arabs, Muslims and Islam for decades. Yet the people of Egypt just proved how restrained and peace-seeking Islam is for real.”

I believe that the Left has always spoken for the downtrodden, the persecuted and the powerless. I find this both a Fox News sort of distortion as well as an attempt to isolate and thus make weaker that which the author opposes. There are peaceful peoples everywhere, and the majority of the 1.4 billion followers of Islam are among them to be certain. I am also certain that there are peaceful, if far too silent, folks in Israel as well.

Further the citing of “Jerusalem” is puzzling as the capital of Israel is Tel Aviv.

Liberation Square Globally     ePie   February 13th, 2011

Time to topple the terror
from sea, to sea, to sea;

Liberation square is just a start
Hold up your shoes to the figure head suits
Hold up your boots to the the G 20 pukes

for…
People power doesn’t (don’t) need a leader
People power doesn’t need a creed
People power doesn’t need a monopoly on truth

Time to topple the terror;
Time to topple corporate rule
the non-entity tools of power hierarchy,
wed to money rules
strangling the law
as bureaucrats flood
the revolving door to corporate hood
the welfare cranks of chain linked freedom
the nationhood’s hoods for commons theft
are like the sands in ancient lands
not bound by an hourglass
but,...
bound by fear of the people
..................... cooperative and truly free

Throw off your free speech zones
Hold up your shoes to the figure head suits
Hold up your boots to the the G 20 pukes
Time to break down the iron corporate curtain

We are a global family
Liberation square was just a start

Sinbad
“However, may I add that the Egyptian people’s revolution was no doubt relatively non-violent “
Ok but non-violence is not a relative term. The revolution isn’t over yet.

By Robert, February 12 at 11:22 pm

Cairo & Jerusalem

February 12, 2011

By Gilad Atzmon

“Jerusalem, Zionists, and some elements within the Left have demonised Arabs, Muslims and Islam for decades. Yet the people of Egypt just proved how restrained and peace-seeking Islam is for real.”
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Thank you Robert for sharing with us this important article by Gilad Atzmon! What makes this article particularly important is that it is written by an informed and conscientious Jew.

By RayLan, February 13 at 2:12 pm Link to this comment

“On the idea of a non-violent revolution: It is an inherently incoherent idea. It conflates the means of resistance with the means of liberation. At no time in the history of the world has liberation from oppression been achieved without violence.”
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RayLan, I really appreciate and agree with your perspective, especially the last part of it.

However, may I add that the Egyptian people’s revolution was no doubt relatively non-violent vis-a-vis the long duration and the intensity and methods of violence by the regime of Mubarak.

On the idea of a non-violent revolution: It is an inherently incoherent idea. It conflates the means of resistance with the means of liberation. At no time in the history of the world has liberation from oppression been achieved without violence. It may have gained the attention of ruling powers non-violently - but the actual means of achieving the toppling of power is sui generis violent. Even though the Egyptian protestors did not have first recourse to violence - many were tortured and killed. The dictator was ousted by the very coercive power that installed him - the military - the primary organ of violence in the world.
Egypt is now in the hands of that beast - let’s not croon too sanguine that now we just have an flock of doves to contend with.
I believe the Egyptian protestors were exemplary in their maturity and nobility - especially considering their average young age. This is no longer a radical movement in the fanatical sense - it is radical rationality - which is the enemy of theocracy. It is neither the Egyptian army nor Egypt’s citizens I worry about, but those self-proclaimed democracies like the US, the lie being that they care about freedom. From that militaristic quarter I expect the worst.

Cairo & Jerusalem

February 12, 2011

By Gilad Atzmon

”  “It was the moral force of non-violence” stated President Obama in his first comment on the revolution in Egypt. Yet it is far from being clear who was the Egyptian Mandela, Gandhi, or Martin Luther King? I guess that in Cairo it was the people themselves who peacefully transformed their own reality.

Jerusalem, Zionists, and some elements within the Left have demonised Arabs, Muslims and Islam for decades. Yet the people of Egypt just proved how restrained and peace-seeking Islam is for real.

Unlike some of our blood soaked Western revolutions, in Cairo millions of Muslims waited for 18 days for their tyrant to internalise the message. Day after day, they stood in the streets demonstrating patience and determination; five times a day they joined mass prayers for goodness to prevail. They reminded us all that Islam is derived from the word Salaam. Islam is all about peace. It is inherently non violent. 

The Egyptians masses were, no doubt, the best possible ambassadors for Islam and Salaam. In just more than two weeks they have manage to break down the Zionist driven phobia of Islam. In such a short time they have managed to plant the seeds of hope in our hearts. They in fact reminded us all what democracy and ‘will for freedom’ are all about.”

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Click on link for the rest from Gilad Atzmon:

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-cairo-jerusalem.html

By Alan MacDonald, February 12 at 7:39 pm

“Democracy is coming to the USA”——finally

While the revolution of young Egyptians should be inspirational for all oppressed people, it should be most instructive for American youth.

As JFK said, \“those who make non-violent revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable\”—- and more importantly for those facing the global corporate capitalist Empire hiding as a facade of democracy, \“those who make non-violent social democracy impossible, make violent social democracy inevitable\”.
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Right on the mark Alan MacDonald! I concur and thank you much by your post!

Before you crack a bottle of champagne, hang on, and think about this. Most revolutions are not presided over by a country’s existing military establishment.

Mubarak came from the military.

Mubarak was kept in power by the military for 30 years.

Now that the military has decided that Mubarak is no longer a useful front man, why should anyone think that the underlying purpose of military rule should change?

The top ranks of the Egyptian military are synonymous with the Egyptian elite.

Their power delivers wealth.

There are many more people in Egypt besides Mubarak and his family who have enjoyed the status of a privileged caste under the past regime, and the power of those people derives from their ties to the Egyptian military.

It is heartening to see that the Egyptian military can be sufficiently afraid of an uprising of millions that they will remove a single man from the office of President.

Now let’s see if those same Egyptian generals are sufficiently afraid of the people that they will be willing to relinquish enough of their own wealth, status, power and privilege in order that Egypt can become a democracy.

The people at the top of any hierarchy didn’t get there by accident - they got there because they were driven by ambition - ambition for what? - for wealth, power, status, privilege.

Now we are to believe that these same ambitious careerists are going to preside over a revolutionary reform movement?

Hmm . . .

“Democracy is coming to the USA”——finally

While the revolution of young Egyptians should be inspirational for all oppressed people, it should be most instructive for American youth.

As JFK said, \“those who make non-violent revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable\”—- and more importantly for those facing the global corporate capitalist Empire hiding as a facade of democracy, \“those who make non-violent social democracy impossible, make violent social democracy inevitable\”.

Several Egyptian college educated young people interviewed during their successful revolution against thieving crony capitalist Mubarak said, \“we need to transition to real social democracy\” (although they did not add the truism, ‘like all real functional democracies’ in the world).

Now that the global corporate/financial/militarist Empire which controls our former country by hiding behind the facade of its Two-Party ‘Vichy’ sham of faux-democratic government, has taken firm steps to push aside their smooth-talking front-man, the stage is being set for confrontation or cowardice.

The unsustainable global Empire derives all its faux-profit through negative externality cost dumping on a multi-national AND multi-generational basis (ie. over geography and time), and thus the young in America are like Afghan youth in the sites of a equally silent Predator.

We, caught in the deadly corporatist Empire which IS America, are the only people who can rise up against this empire before it more stupidly than Mubarak asserts extinction over resignation—- and the time horizon is unpredictable short.

Alan MacDonald

Sanford, Maine

\“Democracy over Empire\”

Leonard Cohen may finally be right if we have courage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHoOTXEfUNo

Great and beautiful days, but revolution? Yes and no, or rather, not yet. There’s
a military, that hallmark of hallmarks of sovereign nation-states, in turn
hallmark of Modernism, which despite all its achievements can fairly be
characterized in human history as the era of fascism, even when one state or
another is a little more democratic or even democratic socialist. All humanity services (organically?) one or another form of the nation-state. (Except for multinationals, thus far the only serious post-Modern phenom.)

Mubarak “the oppressor” is gone but not The Master figure. But it’s got to start
someplace and maybe it has, and that’s the good news. Thanks to youth and to
trade-unionists, the latter always and forever essential to any success.

Obama, et al., have spouted so many stupidities, culminating yesterday, I
believe, with something to do with the arc of history bending toward justice.
Seriously, man. And nonviolently? On who’s part? The estimate is 300 dead in
Egypt, thousands arrested. (Obama is so captured by his own rhetoric, reality is
denied entry at the White House door, no matter the topic.)

All I could think about as I channel-surfed—CNN to Al Jazeera via Link TV–
events unfolding in Egypt was how, or if, Americans might follow this
extraordinary example of the will to freedom by way of demonstrations of
remarkable courage on the part of protestors in the face of a particularly
physically brutal dictatorship, of course with a state military.

CNN commentators drew no such comparison, bent—even at ostensibly “fair
and balanced” CNN—on congratulating Egyptians on becoming more like us,
more “democratic.” Right. Babble on, Fareed and crew—of the need for stability,
institutions, whatnot, the usual statist structures that allow for domination by
the one meretricious class over the less so. 

Revolution is pending in Egypt, another state military in control, as always
seems to happen. As so many times in Latin America where semi-revolutions
have been ongoing for some time, alas still with charismatic, meretricious
leaders.

Glossed by commentators was the most jaw-dropping statement made by any
who commented publicly: From one protestor who said (so many words), “Each
in Tahrir Square was a leader; there was no leader per se.” YEAH, BABY! That’s
what we’re talkin’ about!

We all waited anxiously to see how the Egyptian military would react. As of now,
power is its, which is hardly revolutionary. But freer elections might ensue, etc.,
etc., and that will be substantial progress for Egyptians, despite Fisk’s very
likely accurate comments re the Middle East on DN the other day.

Okay, America too is a (fascist) dictatorship, more sophisticated than any in
history. America-Empire, transcendent state, is under the thumb of a
Commander In Chief in turn backed by the “greatest fighting machine in the
world.” More importantly, America-Empire is under the thumb of Wall Street as
much as China is now under that of Shanghai.

We citizens of the world remain stuck in unfree, Modernist (corporate and so all
the more fascist) statism with leader-dictators and their enablers and with an
idea—promulgated by mega media—of freedom amounting merely to
spectacle.

The three-dimensional has been forced by statism into Marcuse’s one-
dimensional, such that by now more and more are becoming addicted to
substances or to extreme behaviors—at the psychological level, which cannot
be dismissed as separate and apart from the socio-economic.

Americans must revolt in the same way—by protesting en masse to insist their
political and economic rulers step down in the interest of the pursuit of
democracy, which will only be (even) partially realized when nation-states and
the dictators and institutions that “stabilize” them are dismantled and
nationalist-capitalist dogmas relegated to history’s junk pile.

David J Cyr:

“Unlike America, the Egyptian military is not filled with volunteer psychopaths.”

Who died and made you god over my family? Screw you.

Now, tattle on me to the editor and report this comment, because I’m betting you don’t have the guts to apologize for insulting decent people. You can’t possibly be man enough.

Regarding the ?? ??? ??????? at the end of my last post.  Apparently Arabic will not translate in this forum.

Fascinating.

Nearly every poster here decried the turmoil in the Middle East over the last 5-7 years as a horrible development.  The worst and most dangerous possible thing to have happen for Arabs, the wider region and the globe.  According to most here this turmoil has been a dangerous bi-product of the Bush administration and, by extension, evil Israel.  Isn’t that right, bi-polar Arabian/Sinbad?

Today all that has been forgotten.  Suddenly this disarray is nothing but a good thing.

Truly fascinating.

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So that nobody can twist my words into something completely unrecognizable; I have been writing on this Web space for quite some time now that the past few years of fractures and turmoil in the Arab regions may very well lead to an internal Arab discussion regarding autocratic governance vs representative forms of governance.  I was regularly labeled an idiot, a Neo-Con, a fascist, a Zionist and/or corporatist plant.

Nobody here knows what Egypt will look like in the coming 5-10-25 years.  But, as I have written dozens of times, I remain guardedly optimistic.

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Arabian Sinbad.  I have shared with you numerous times in the past how your chosen nom de guerre is tremendously offensive to Arabs. 

?? ??? ???????.

Watching Egypt’s Vice President Omar Suleiman announce that Mubarek had abdicated, I cannot get over his general pysiognomy. His facial features, (he was trying extremely hard to appear controlled), seemed to signal his distaste for what he had been compelled to do. If someone had poured coffee beans into the top of his skull, it would have emitted Expresso grounds through his teeth. He’s either very afraid of his future or livid over the political dynamic that will effectively marginalize him in the pecking order.

In another thread I mentioned the pivotal and divided nature of the military and how it’s at the fulcrum of weather a true democracy will emerge in Egypt. The older higher echelon are of the same era as Mubarek and were trained by the USSR. The youngbloods were trained by the USA. There’s money involved. This should be very interesting.

Initial indications will be found in the openness of information. Will a free press, pamphletering, the internet, be promoted or suppressed? Will party lines be arbitrarily delineated or allowed to gel along ideological lines reflecting the true problems that face the Egyptians?

If in fact Mubarek’s wealth is commandeered, through what grass-roots programs promoting self-reliance and entrepeneurship and not least, subsidies for the impoverished, will be promulgated? What public works projects, what social programs, judiciary infrastructure? If it evolves top-down, in grandiose style, it will be readily identified as phoney.

Was the temporary people’s “victory” in Egypt achieved by nice nonviolent peaceful happy singing protest? Was that all there was?

During the 18 continuous days of massive protest, the unarmed protesters first fiercely fought battles that forced the riot geared police to back off. Then there were days when the “nonviolent” protesters used their bare hands to dig up street paver stones, break them into hand heaving size, and then hurl storms of stones at the plainclothes rioting police thugs and early released criminals who were attacking the anti-government protesters.

While that “nonviolence” was going on in Cairo, in other places in Egypt the police stations and police vehicles were burned by protesters; government buildings and government cars were burned by protesters… the gas pipeline from Egypt to Jordan was bombed. And union workers firmly shut what was left of the economy down.

The Generals didn’t punt because they were hearing “We Shall Overcome” sung in Tahrir Square. They had to use the “democracy transition” ploy to immediately quell the real and present danger of an imminent all out slash and burn revolution.

Unlike America, the Egyptian military is not filled with volunteer psychopaths. If the flames of revolution weren’t quickly doused by empty promises of democracy tomorrow, Egypt’s Army would be fighting itself now today (Saturday, February 12), with the conscripted privates shooting the officers.

Bruno:

Just a comment on the “Orange Revolution” in Ukraine. As most people know, I live in southern Ukraine and was privy to the revolution. From the very beginning it was staged by the Ukrainian nationalists as a way of shifting power to them. The election was never really fair as far as I can see. What came next was also predictable: the new owners simply took up where the old owners had been and started stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down. That revolution was never about change, it was about shifting power. After 5 years of the Ukrainian’s stealing everything, we now have the Russian component stealing everything and pretty much running the country into the ground. Prices have gone through the roof and the government is no where to be found. They are attempting to destroy most small to mid-size businesses and have just raised import duties on most food so it will be essentially unaffordable by anyone but the rich. That’s the Ukrainian way of making revolution. I can only hope the young people of Egypt don’t fall for all the crap the rich and elites will shovel over the coming months. They need to be vigilant and ruthless in keeping the revolution on track. It is far too easy (as was shown in Ukraine) for the crooks to take over and mess it up.

Freud said it: “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar”

And sometimes a peaceful revolution against a tyrant is just that!

All of us outsiders keep making the same mistake: This revolution is about EGYPT, not the USA, and not Israel.

It’s not about Islam, it’s about 30 years of repression by a man accumulating billions while his people starve.

It’s about a feudal society where a people suffering at the hands of a thug have finally said ENOUGH, and done it Gandhi-like, with mass numbers, willing to endure violence but not initiating it.

Nothing has been seen like this since Gandhi led India out of British tyranny.

EGYPT: Israeli, Saudi officials respond to unrest

February 10, 2011

“Israeli lawmaker Benjamin Ben-Eliezer — who spoke with the Egyptian president by phone on Thursday before his speech — described Mubarak as “different from what I heard on the news.”

In Saudi Arabia, officials have offered Mubarak a place to live, but have advised him not to leave, an Arab diplomatic source told CNN.”

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Hmmm…Israel spoke with Mubarak before his speech on Thursday…How revealing…may be they were trying to convince him to be more defiant & to stay !!!

Click on link for the rest:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/02/egypt-israeli-defense-minister-says-egypt-must-find-its-way.html

I am in an almost bi-polar state over this news.

On the one hand the power of the people to topple a regime in a non-violent fashion,one that stole from them and failed to work in their best interests, should be a lesson for us all. As Ernesto Guevarra so aptly noted we in America live in “the belly of the beast” and thus have the hardest job of all.

On the other hand the most difficult challenges remain ahead for the people of Egypt. They have succeeded in ousting a crook, but now must build a democracy from scratch.

With the military assuming the role of government caretaker, and with the USA, supported by its billions in aid to that military, pushing for the elevation of Omar Suleiman, a man responsible for torture and murder, I cannot help but wonder what will emerge.

now even the MSM has received orders to suggest that it’s a ‘military coup’ -

CNN: iReport — http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-553984
Egyptian Military: Will it Come through for its People?
5 hours ago
This is a highly sensitive situation. Egypt is on the brink of a military coup. Or
already within it.
_____________________

deeper analysis suggests that the coup d’etat was a fait accompli even before
the ‘revolt’ got rolling - tragic that over 300 died - it’s not been the orgy of
peace and love the media has portrayed - this throws into question the
coverage of Democracy Now, for example - consider what you’d expect from
media coverage of similar protests in the West, if over 300 died…

Mubarak, we learn this week, rejected a secret defense alliance with Israel and
Saudi Arabia, planned to set all three nations in a binding bulwark against Iran -
analysis suggests that this is why he had to go and that Suleiman will go along
with such a treaty

a ‘people power color revolution’ is the perfect vehicle to get this done - and of
course, the MSM has to play its role… a post modern coup -
Tarpley’s analysis from Feb. 10 - http://tarpley.net/

The sad fact here, Mr. Alan MacDonald is that here the army will not protect protesters when the police beat and arrest them (witness Denver Democratic Convention) and will in fact fire on the protesters if told to (witness Kent State). The terror state we live in keeps us docile.

The CIA standard barometer for predicting civil unrest and revolution in any country is a domestic GINI Coefficient of Income Inequality greater/worse than 0.45.

Egypt’s GINI is only 0.40, while the US has a GINI of 0.49 (and all the social democracies of Europe and Japan are 0.23 to 0.37).

So why the revolt in Egypt and not the US?

The US is clearly a non-democratic Empire, and in fact, has the highest Empire Index on earth.

But what is really important in predicting revolution is a combination of the CIA’s GINI Index plus the perceived democracy:Empire GAP ratio.

The perceived GAP between democracy and Empire (or any form of totalitarian government) provides a measure of how obvious (or how clearly the people see) the GAP between what their country pretends to be and what it really is.

In this particular case, Egypt pretended to be a democracy, but a giant and obvious GAP existed between the state’s claim and the peoples’ perception of reality—- and thus with a GINI of only 0.40, but a giant democracy:Oligarchy GAP the spark of civil unrest and revolution could spark.

Congratulation to the Egyptian citizens.

But conversely, the US with a very high 0.49 GINI of Income Inequality (almost as high as Zimbabwe’s 0.53), but a low perceived GAP between democracy:Empire, the citizens can be kept docile.

Naturally, it takes tremendously sophisticated, modern, and pervasive propaganda techniques, which only the most talented “Vichy” political and media infrastructure can achieve to sufficiently fool a country’s populace by hiding a giant democracy:Empire GAP—- and guilefully convince citizens that they actually live in a functional democracy.

While a very significant percentage of Egyptians fully understood that a massive GAP between claimed democracy and actual oligarchy/dictatorship/Empire existed in their country, only a very small percentage of Americans realize that a giant democracy:Empire GAP exists in the US.

Hell, the vast majority of Americans do not even know that a massively high, unjust, and immoral GINI Income Inequality exists in the US—- as has been compellingly proven by Dan Ariely and Michael Norton’s HBS economic study on mis-perceptions and wild under-estimation of Income and Wealth Inequality in the US.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_44/b4201008238184.htm

http://danariely.com/2010/09/30/wealth-inequality/

So what seems to matter, and which the CIA might want to add to its formula, is that the combination of high GINI of Income (and Wealth) Inequality PLUS a large and fully perceived reality GAP between democracy:Empire is the secret rocket fuel for starting a revolution.

Wake-up Americans—- your GINI of Inequality is way over the limit, and your real GAP between democracy:Empire is huge, even though you don’t perceive either!

Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
“Democracy over Empire” party headquarters

Arabian Sinbad, Your 10:42PM post is right on, and let us all hope that the Egyptian revolution results in a true democracy, to provide a sharp contrast to the hypocritical Zionist debacle that has been trying to gobble-up control of the entire Mittle-East by destroying all potential adversaries with the complicity of the US Military-Industrial complex and the AIPAC-purchased and controlled Congress.

Yes We can Mr. Obama , Yes You can
the people of Egypt and Tounsia

Fine that he’s finally gone, but what of the accounting for his 30 years of crimes against his people not to mention the $70 billion that he and his model family “earned” over that time period?

Though millions of freedom lovers in Egypt and around the world feel feel exuberant and happy about the victory of freedom-fighters in Egypt in toppling the evil dictator, I know of two regular fanatic Zionist posters on Truthdig who most likely are so unhappy and sad for these developments; they are the two losers who go by the names of “nefish” and “Go Right Young Man.” I hope that they are experiencing nightmares about how the victory of the freedom movements in Egypt and the area is going to affect their colonialist fascist Israel that goes by the misnomer of the “only democracy in the Middle East” according the American political-military-industrial complex!

Mubarak’s resignation has raised a major question that needs to be answered, immediately!

Who is CIA-director Panetta going to appoint to replace Hosni? Not surprisingly, reports are that there is not much in-fighting going on in the CIA for the job. After all, it took Mubarak 30 years to skim-off $5B+. Hell, some of the CIA posts can do that in a year or two, like Afghanistan and Colombia.

Wouldn’t it be nice if the unemployed here would take to the mall in DC and
demand at the very least universal healthcare.

Congratulations to the people of Egypt; some hope for the workers of the world.

A toast to you, Egypt!  Celebrating with Egyptians for their enormous show of
peaceful strength. Hopefully, they’ll have some energy left to closely watch the
actions of the most immediate possible hijackers of their victory: Suleiman, the
military, and their long-time sponsors, the US and Israel.

The lack of reporting about Israel by Truthdig is very noticeable, especially at this
time. I guess we’ll have to get to the bottom of that.

markulyseas
The article is reading a pattern into the events that does not exist. These Egyptian youth are not theocrats. In fact not all religious people believe that their religion should run their country despotically. Post French Revolution - Europe quickly became secularized. The toppling of Mubarek by such a peace-keeping throng protesting for 18 days is unprecedented and it is not inevitable that they should install a religious autocrat. They protested for freedom - not oppression in a religious cast.

Id be quite po’d too if I was earning two dollars a day and the “man of the people’
lived in palatial splendor.

we couldve used their youth here when the war criminal bush was ‘president.’

After the impeachment of Clinton, the highjacking of the 2000 presidential
election, and the build up to war in Iraq based on lies, it’s a beautiful thing to see
that democracy is working somewhere in the world.

Cheers to the people of Egypt. Well done!

@Ryan and @Arabian Sinbad
Ok here is my published article.
http://www.marculyseas.wordpress.com

THE RAPE OF EGYPT by Hosni Mubarak,AND THE PREDICTABLE AFTERMATH

What is happening in Cairo is endemic in countries where regimes are supported by the US of A. Mr. Hosni Mubarak and his cronies have systematically raped Egyptians metamorphicaly and literally in terms of human rights, civil rights, women’s rights and financially i.e. by stealing the nation’s wealth. Incidentally, Hosni Mubarak, his wife Mrs. Suzanne Mubarak and his two sons, (Gamal and Alaa), have amassed over 40 billion dollars in assets/cash in the U.S.A, and banks in Switzerland and Britain.

Now where has this money come from?

The ordinary working class citizens of this ancient land have been repressed by the machinations of a semi-benign police state supported by USA, a country that has historically fiddled in the affairs of other countries while ironically priding itself on freedom of speech and the first amendment; and, strangely enough by Israel, a Jewish State. In fact it is rumored that Israel does not want to see Mubarak go and further has been surreptitiously protecting him for they apparently prefer to support this malignancy because it suits their Machiavellian strategy i.e. dividing the Arab nations. Obviously this is a hangover from the Yom Kippur war of 1973 (Arab-Israeli War/Ramadan War/ October War).

The sudden surge in demonstrations and the proceeding violence is a long delayed backlash that should have come much earlier. And this is fuelled by sentiments stirred up by the Brotherhood and other vested interests. Mr. Karl Marx was right when he said that religion is the opium of the masses. What we are witnessing is the volatile concoction of culture spiced by religion which will predictably free citizens from State control but enslave them to the prevailing religious leaders’ biddings.

Many Arab rulers have been known to ‘run’ their countries reminiscent of medieval feudal States. A quick reference to the Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, Haile Selassie and the aftermath of their inglorious exit is ample proof of the path Egyptians will inevitably tread in the coming months. Finally when the dust settles the Brotherhood will settle in and as time ticks on one despot will be replaced by another in a form probably palatable to the ordinary people for they cannot argue with their self appointed religious leaders whose sole agenda is to use Islam as a tool to subjugate the people by perverted representation of this Great religion.

We have no one to blame but the USA and its allies for deliberately supporting Hosni Mubarak even though he and his accomplices have looted their own country.

The emotive images of blood, sweat and tears of ordinary unarmed, innocent Egyptians displayed on TV screens worldwide will finally come to naught for in the grand scheme of things, freedom will be but a fleeting glimpse of truth till organized religion takes the reins.

May God bless the unfortunate people of Egypt.

By markulyseas, February 11 at 6:36 pm
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If the picture accompanying your comment is indicative of anything, then it it tells me that you are a “mafia” person who only believes in a “Mafia Religion” to rule this world!

Your comment is irrelevant and your evil thoughts will be proven to be mistaken!

markulyseas
“one despot will be replaced by another in a form probably palatable to the ordinary people for they cannot argue with their self appointed religious leaders whose sole agenda is to use Islam as a tool to subjugate the people by perverted representation of this Great religion. “

That is a vain speculation that does not give credit to these young Egyptians for understanding the true nature of freedom. These are not your typical Muslims - who subjugate women and need a theocracy. They would not have had the independence of spirit to resists in such a noble and courageous way.

Many Arab rulers have been known to ‘run’ their countries reminiscent of medieval feudal States. A quick reference to the Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, Haile Selassie and the aftermath of their inglorious exit is ample proof of the path Egyptians will inevitably tread in the coming months. Finally when the dust settles the Brotherhood will settle in and as time ticks on one despot will be replaced by another in a form probably palatable to the ordinary people for they cannot argue with their self appointed religious leaders whose sole agenda is to use Islam as a tool to subjugate the people by perverted representation of this Great religion.

I’d rather put it this way: “Evil Mubarak is defeated, toppled and forced out!”

Congratulations to both the people of Tunisia and Egypt for their courageous and glorious revolutions. They have taught the whole world the ultimate lesson in democracy and freedom, not just the empty slogans we keep hearing about everywhere.

The first order of things for the revolutionary order is to start a process of extraditing those two ex-dictators and put them on a trial for a speedy and certain execution for all the blood on their hands. Moreover, their billions of stolen monies now deposited in Western banks, must be identified, recovered and returned to the Egyptian and Tunisian peoples.

Its about time!  Very exciting to see what the people can accomplish when motivated enough.

The key word here is ‘force’. One could say it was a non-violent revolution - but that is an hyperbole - it was possible only because of the final ‘force’ applied by the military. In the process many protestors were tortured and/or killed.
I rejoice for the Egyptian people.