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MSNBC announced it will no longer air “Imus in the Morning,” as the uproar over the radio host’s racist comment continues and several prominent sponsors withdrew advertising. CBS, which controls the radio version of Imus’ show, has not said whether it too will cancel the program or merely stick with a suspension.

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MSNBC said Wednesday it will drop its simulcast of the “Imus in the Morning” radio program, responding to growing outrage over the radio host’s racial slur against the Rutgers women’s basketball team.

In a statement, NBC News announced “this decision comes as a result of an ongoing review process, which initially included the announcement of a suspension. It also takes into account many conversations with our own employees. What matters to us most is that the men and women of NBC Universal have confidence in the values we have set for this company. This is the only decision that makes that possible.”

The network statement went on to say, “Once again, we apologize to the women of the Rutgers basketball team and to our viewers. We deeply regret the pain this incident has caused.”

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By socalcde, April 12, 2007 at 6:37 pm #
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I feel that if MSNBC truly believes that Imus should be fired for this terrible statement, that they (MSNBC) should be making a public apology for ever having him on the airwaves at all.  What he said was a terrible thing, no doubt, but it was far from the only terrible thing that he has ever said.  It is exactly those kind of statements that gained him the kind of notoriety that he enjoyed, and MSNBC is who gave him the forum to do it.  Why did it take until GM and other corporate sponsors threatened to pull ads from them to decide that Imus would have to go?  Because they don’t care about content, as long as it’s bringing in money.  If bigotry and sensationalism is what brought listeners in they didn’t care until the money was threatened.

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By Broiler, April 12, 2007 at 4:32 pm #
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It had to be done. It can’t stop here. Clean house starting with Sharpton and Jackson. Leave no stone unturned. Strike while the iron is hot!

That is what you want? Get rid of all the big money, loud mouth, hypocrite, media creeps and hangers on, or just this creep and his cronies? Where’s Tim Russert hiding? Nothing to say in your friends defense Tim?

The only prominent American that Imus never bad mouthed was Jack Welch. Perhaps Imus got his people skills from emulating “Neutron Jack”. Yes Imus, everyone deserves a second chance. Most alcoholics and cocaine addicts get theirs starting over at the bottom of the ladder. You’ve had more than your share of second chances. The people you’ve hurt the most are the children that have come to depend on you. What would you ever have done if someone said something so crass about those children with cancer or your own son? Shame on you, now go away.

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By big yellow dog, April 12, 2007 at 10:06 am #
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Let’s not forget who put this type of filthy banter in the mainstream - hip hop and rap music.  No white guy ever could have come up with “nappy-headed hos” if a black man didn’t say it first.  I guess some derogatory language is ok if it is only being spoken by a black person?  Gimme a break.  This whole Imus thing has been blown WAY out of proportion.  As a woman, I really believe he is the victim here.  I hate hip hop and rap, and you know what - I don’t have to listen it.  I am disgusted with the double standards the likes of Al Sharpton live by and so should everyone else - white or black.

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By FIRE BERNARD MCGUIRK NOW, April 12, 2007 at 9:53 am #
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Leave Don Imus but FIRE his Exec. Producer, BERNARD MCGUIRK who is the biggest BIGOT on the Imus In The Morning show.  He is the one that started the statement (nappy headed hos) before Imus.

Bernard degrades women and loves to use the word FAG any chance he can.

CBS Radio - save us all FIRE BERNARD MCGUIRK TODAY!!!!!

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By Leona S, April 12, 2007 at 9:18 am #
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These girls were made the target of ridicule because they were athletes. Men and women alike don’t always look aesthetically pleasing while performing under the stress of athletic competition. Athletics aside, we don’t all fit the “American Idol” standard for matinee idol appearance. We have all known people that are beautiful in appearance but are ugly in substance. And likewise people who are not physically beautiful but are beautiful none-the–less. To infer that someone is unattractive and lump it into an assumption of the persons integrity was nasty to say the least. I think Don Imus is human and capable of both humane acts and human mistakes. If Don Imus had felt remorse for his comments, one would think he would have caught himself as soon as he uttered these insults. I don’t know anyone who hasn’t said something hurtful and immediately regretted it but this was not the case. I would add that thankfully most of us are not speaking off the cuff into a microphone for thousands of hours.

My son is a high school student/athlete and is currently trying to select a college to attend next fall. This is an exciting and difficult time for our family. We are attempting to choose an educational environment that will lead him to a comfortable and productive future. We are searching for an environment where he will learn about the evils of the world while in some measure being protected from them in these formative years. To think he could be judged without evidence in the way that these young women were is very troubling.

My son has run into insults based on his appearance at the high school level. He was characterized (verbal taunts) by the opposing team as not being proficient in baseball due to his “white bread” or “whitey” appearance. The taunting came in English and Spanish through the first two innings. (Why they were taunting what they thought was a predominantly “Anglo” team in Spanish, who knows? They were only kids though. You would hope that the other team’s coaches or the umpires would have acted as adults and nipped this thing in the bud but did not.) My son is considered by many colleges as “Hispanic” ethnically. He does not appear anything at first glance other than say a tall, young man. His high school team is ethnically mixed but predominantly “white”. A few shouted words of encouragement, in Spanish by me, along with his introducing the other team to his “split finger fastball” ended the discussion as to his ethnicity and proficiency. It took the other team realizing “Ay Dios mio, él es uno de nosotros” to stop the verbal abuse. My son’s team beat them soundly. My son feeds off of any kind of taunting; I wish that this particular taunting was not one of his life experiences. He understands the problem with thinking that way.

That’s a sad story. The sad part is it is rare that any of us look at someone physically or ethnically different and think “my God, he or she is one of us”. Every human needs to be “one of us”. Despite what we think of him, Don Imus is “one of us”. The Rutgers women are without a doubt “one of us”. These women and their families did not have the opportunity of facing their detractors. They were sitting ducks. Let’s hope they take the taunting and feed off of it for future success. Can someone please buy Imus some glasses, the man obviously can’t see. Let’s hope that Imus and all of us work toward continual improvement and always thinking “he or she is one of us” before thinking anything else.

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By Abdiel, April 12, 2007 at 8:56 am #
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For starters, people in power are the only ones that can be racist.  All others are prejudice.

Now, Don Imus has power because his message does influence people as millions of listeners toon in to his soon to be canceled show and hear is prejudice views.

Imus targeted, insulted and disrespected indentifiable individuals and that was wrong.  Being funning at the expense of others is wrong.

A slap on the wrist is not the answer because others that want a 2 week vacation or a jump in ratings will just spread hatred and bigotry to their listeners. 

Strict and stern punishment is the only solution to stop people of influence and power from being irresponsible or from “making a mistake’.

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By mutterhals, April 12, 2007 at 8:29 am #
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“Racism, bigotry and hate need to be nipped in the bud.”

How do you propose we do this? By decimating freedom of speech? You will never eradicate racism. You empower racists by letting what they say affect you. Consider the source and live your goddamn life.

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By RAE, April 12, 2007 at 8:21 am #

Hey Jay (#63505)…

You say your mother declared: ““YOU CAN THINK WHATEVER YOU WANT JUST DON’T LET IT COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH”. “

So much for free speech in your family’s values!

What she should have quoted: “It’s better to keep your mouth SHUT and be thought a FOOL, than to open it and remove all doubt!” (apologies - I can’t find the reference to the original author).

We were told at university that now that we were “educated” we had a RESPONSIBILITY to speak out. (I assume the professor meant on topics in which we had been “educated.")

It is CRITICAL that EVERYONE be heard. Not that I think everyone has something WORTH hearing - quite the contrary. MOST of what’s said is nonsense. SOME of what’s said is digusting, hate-filled, ignorant raving.

BUT… and this is the crux… each of us has the ability to sift, sort and evaluate what we hear and see. Each of us has the ability to CHOOSE to accept or reject such input into our “education.” But NONE OF US IS WISE ENOUGH TO MAKE SUCH CHOICES FOR OTHERS.

State your objections loudly and clearly. Boycott where you must. It’s your INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY to do so. But be very clear… such “censoring” applies to YOU and YOU ALONE. You have no ability or right to do it for others. Not in the kind of free society that I want to live in, anyway.

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By Polly Ester, April 12, 2007 at 8:16 am #
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“This minor skirmish, surrounding statements by a Mr. Donald Imus (whoever he might be, and who the hell really knows?) mainly involves concern for appearances, far more so than anything to do with concern for implementation of social justice, beginning with understanding of capitalism as fomenter of class struggle, extending to race and gender, obviously. The Imus skirmish, in the end, serves only to remind that the real subject is beyond ideological limits. That capitalism is essentially perfect is given “fact.” Something else must be wrong.  Therefore, confusion in, and on the part of, mainstream media, as usual. Never mind confusing cultural for political.”

CJ,
Your observations are correct—-but propaganda will exist, irregardless of the political system; it’s just the nature of the beast.  Who will decide what can be said, what is humorous and what is newsworthy?  Will it be the political ambulance chasers appearing non-stop on TV; I hope not.

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By jennifer rodriguez, April 12, 2007 at 7:47 am #
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IMUS does NOT deserve all the ragging you are all giving him. He put his foot in his mouth!! BIG DEAL! We all have done it!!!

I think I am going to start picketing and call upon WHITE LEADERS to start the firing of the BLACK DJ’s here in NYC for calling us Hispanics SPICS and white people CRACKERS!!!

To me it’s the same thing thing.


IMUS DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE FIRED!!!!!!!!!!

I am very disappointed in MSNBC.They are using IMUS as a scapegoat......... If Blacks want RESPECT for their women......they should be picketing in front of ALL the RADIO STATIONS.......RECORDING STUDIOS and RAPPERS HOMES that CALL their own women HO’s and Bitches.....etc. Start THERE and prevent evereyone else from using that kind of language.It starts with ourselves right??????


If the naacp wanted to do something meaningful, then they should start attacking the rap ‘music’ industry for setting the civil rights movement back 50 years. Why don’t they focus on getting kids out of gangs, educating blacks how to empower themselves and keep out of prison, and not allowing rap to set such a negative lifestyle. The former head of the Lakewood naacp was so busy calling the police there racists; meanwhile his son was running around like a criminal. These morons just have no focus and don’t know how to distinguish their priorities.

As for al Sharpton - the only reason he makes the news is because his followers are too stupid to think for themselves. He was responsible for raising about $500,000 for tawana brawley, the teenage mongrel who falsely accused white police of assaulting her and smearing poop on her, when in reality she did it to herself. Then he organised riots that resulted in the deaths of several innocent people. He’s nothing but a filthy, hate-mongering racist who will wind up in the darkest bowls of Hell when he finally drops dead.

Then there’s jesse “The Fornicator” jackson who stole over $1 million from the naacp to pay off being revealed for what he is by his b astard child. And he also called NYC “Hymietown” back in the day. Another hypocrite.

It would be nice if these clowns actually did something to help blacks instead of looking for air time and keeping their faces in the news. How much money do either sharpton and jackson contribute to black communities - probably nothing.

Calling the basketball team ‘ho’s’ is offensive. Imus is a dope and I don’t like him. But there’s alot of racial epithets thrown at whites, asians, hispanics, etc., on most ‘urban’ radio morning zoos and in rap music, and these buffoons don’t blink an eye. A bunch of lowlife hypocrites is what they are.

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By confused, April 12, 2007 at 7:45 am #
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I am confused about this situation. I don’t understand why people have to react this way. I can’t believe all the fuss this has caused. There are plenty of much worse things he could have said. And if he would have said something else, i can’t even imagine the reaction it would cause!

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By Clayton J. Peters, April 12, 2007 at 7:27 am #
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Don and Bernie have been playing off each other for years and they are usually funny and right on.  In the case of Rutgers black players and the “ho” comment it is a take off on today’s vernacular and should be viewed as such.  To let Sharpton and Jackson wield the power to have Don fired should be an affront to every non-black listener.  When is the white majority going to wake up and stop these non contributing blacks in their tracks.

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By Guido, April 12, 2007 at 7:13 am #
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I think I have reached break point. Imus is not the issue at all to me.  It is a growing double standard that is fueling the very thing that the disgustingly revolting and obnoxious Al Sharpton spouts at any and every opportunity.  The response by Sharpton and the, excuse me, righteous reverend Jackson who had a sexual affair only fuels the racial tension because they protray their racial preducice to a max.  But America has a guilty conscience.  How come Chris Rock can disparage whites constantly and nothing is made of it?  This bothers me.  How come almost every comic on the Black network uses condescending white humor in their skits and its okay?  How come racial stereotyping is okay within the black culture about whites but not when it happens to them.  The average white person with no axe to grind is getting very, very resentful of this double standard.  This is fueling future racial tension.  Why is the disgusting and perverted Howard Stern allowed to be on air when he promotes such disgusting behavior?  Is that not demeaning to both sexes and promoting sexual innapropriateness?  Don Imus was totally wrong to say what he did for the obvious reasons, but he has been given the green light for years to continually generate outlandish remarks.  What does that say about the shows promoters.  They are not innocent and they are the ones that should be scrutinized.  Eddie Murphy made fun of white people for years and nobody said a thing.  Why is Sharpton not right on the spot on the Duke campus spouting justice for the boys who were unfairly accused?  Its because he has a single agenda and cares nothing for the big picture which is a sense of fairness to all.  He is no reverend to me.  He is a bigot of mass proportions.  His approach and demands only fuel the ignorant.  I could go on but its pointless.. We are fueling greater racism by allowing these and other commentaries to continue.  It never seems to be about doing the honorable thing or what is fair on either side.

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By JOHN, April 12, 2007 at 6:56 am #
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YES IMUS MADE A BAD CHOICE WHEN HE SAID THOES THINGS AND HE WAS A BIG ENOUGH PERSON TO APOLOGIZE FOR IT. I PERSONALY THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE ENDED IT. BUT NOW JACKSON AND SHARPTON HAVE, (TWO OF THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES IN TV LAND) DECIDED TO PUT THEIR TWO CENTS IN. I THINK BEFORE THEY ATTACK SOMEONE ELSE ITS TIME FOR THEM TO APOLOGIZE TO THE INNOCENT BOYS THEY ACCUSED, TRIED, AND BROUGHT JUDGMENT AGANST BEFORE THEY KNEW ALL THE FACTS. THEY ALSO OWE THE COACH THAT GOT FIRED AT LEAST A YEARS SALARY FOR GETTING HIM FIRED. THEY ALSO NEED TO DROP THE REV TITLE FROM THERE NAMES. THEY ARE ABOUT AS REVERENT AS HITLER. CHRIST WAS ALL ABOUT FORGIVENESS, AND NEITHER ONE OF THEM HAS SHOWN ANY.

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By sharon ash, April 12, 2007 at 6:50 am #
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In our society we have seen the language on television, in our movies and in our music, become increasingly disrespectful to others over the past 10 years, or so.  Trash talk holds a big attraction to many and it has been the principal language of several hit TV series.  There is no excuse for the inexcusable, which is what the statement was which Mr. Imus made.  However, we should take a look at ourselves as a society and see what we all can do about treating each other with more respect. I have never listened to Don Imus for the same reason I have never watched Jerry Springer, and that is because I really do not consider that type of venue to be the best use of my time here on Earth.  The cure for Don Imus does not rest within him, it rests within our society.

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By jay richardson, April 12, 2007 at 5:54 am #
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It’s about time people start to pay for what exits their mouths. My mother always said “YOU CAN THINK WHATEVER YOU WANT JUST DON’T LET IT COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH”. This is one example when it should have remained a thought.......

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By pb, April 12, 2007 at 5:29 am #
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Has anyone else noticed that Imus didn’t start that dialogue?  What’s happening to the other guy who used the ‘h.’ word first to start the exchange?  I’m not trying to cover for Imus - but listening to the clip - he may not have headed down that path if the other guy hadn’t taken the first leading step!

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By Steve, April 12, 2007 at 5:14 am #
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Will not watch MSNBC again!!!  He was wrong and apologized. The idiots that are calling for his head should shut up. I have heard countless times on T.V. an African American say that this athelet suffered from white mans disease, meaning he could not jump high enough and nothing ever happens to the person, nor should it.
About two years ago a homeless black man stabbed a white woman to death in White Plains N.Y., and said he wanted to kill a white person, where was the reverend Sharpton on the subject of getting along?
Or is he the racist.
Last but not least, if you want to act so defensive, put a stop to the rappers that call their best girls and their woman in general their hos. And use the n-word all the time, cause isn’t that racial? Why can it be used so easily but if a white person says it forget about it? What a joke.
Imus was wrong, but has added so much to society with raising money for the fight against SIDS and other things. He has a wonderful heart and is not a racist like Sharpton and Jackson.

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By Dr. Knowitall, PhD, PhD, April 12, 2007 at 5:05 am #

63453 Ernest Canning, I think there’s a difference between making remarks that are stereotypical in nature, racist or sexist, and remarks that criticize one’s beliefs or politic.  Perhaps the best outcome in all this is the dialogue.  There does seem to be a double standard--it’s ok for a media outlet to broadcast racist, sexist rap, but not ok for Imus to say on the public airwaves what he said. Then there’s the issue of censorship and whether there should be content restrictions on use of public airwaves.  One positive outcome of all this, I think, is the demonstration of the power an audience has to influence the behavior of large corporations.  Americans showed their collective power in the 2006 election and maybe there’s a way to further influence the course of the Iraq war using collective economic pressure.  In any event, I think there’s a need for this country to return to civility in how we treat each other and Imus, deservedly, is the sacrificial lamb.

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By ChicagoGuy, April 12, 2007 at 4:49 am #
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Imus’s caustic racist remarks were wrong. That I agree with but what I do not understand is the guidelines used by major TV and radio networks to monitor what is and is not acceptable to be broadcast. How can the likes of those ignorant hate-mongers like Beck, Coulter, Hannrity, Malkin and O’Reilly (just to name a few) be allowed to spew their lies and hatred on the airwaves and not be held accountable?

There are bigger fish to fry than Imus. He got what he deserved but so many others whose words continue to instill hatred and violence are still on the air doing business as usual. Until those people are held accountable I doubt the firing of Imus will make a difference.

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By Kellina, April 12, 2007 at 4:30 am #
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Didn’t any of you notice the onair war between Rosie O’Donnell (who merely asked how WTC7 could have collapsed straight down into its footprint at freefall speed when it was not hit by a plane and had limited, small fires) and Bill O’Reilly, Joe Scarborough, Glen Beck et al. One of their guests, Danny Bonaduce, called for Rosie’s execution!

It’s interesting what Truthdig sees fit to writeabout it and what it leaves out.

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By blog dog, April 12, 2007 at 1:17 am #

#63453 by Ernest Canning on 4/11 at 7:23 pm
(Truthdig Member since 04/7/2007, 13 comments) - “We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too.”

***** this is exactly what the Torture Gulag is about - the widely reported torture tactics are not especially productive - moreover, since Al Queda is widely known to be a provocateur (agit-prop) pseudo-gang, there’s little point in torturing them - the purpose is literally to terrorize the entire world..."making them realize that they can be killed too.” And, very painfully. In a world scarred witless, any offer “on the table” is worlds above what’s on offer in the Torture Gulag — your tax dollars at work...Anne Coulter’s wet dream.

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By Dublin Joe, April 12, 2007 at 1:04 am #
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Rae,

I don’t think it’s the names that people think will hurt them. It’s the chains, whips, firehoses, nooses and the countless other weapons of racism that are the real threat.

Racism, bigotry and hate need to be nipped in the bud. Even though Imus’ comments were a relative molehill, they either point at a deeper racism or they can energize those with violent hatreds.

I hope the 21st Century will be known as the time when we did not tolerate racism or hatred (read: fear) in any form - for to reach that point makes us better humans.

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By Scott, April 11, 2007 at 11:07 pm #
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Of course, Imus should be banned and fired.

1.  No one at that level of national media should use such language, whatever his personal opinions are.  Can you imagine if he had said “those skullcap-wearing schmucks” and then ensued, “Oh, it was only a joke.”

2.  For God’s sake, the man is about 80 and should by now know his place in society.  He is way past retirement—leave the seat for someone fresher.  Imus won’t be lacking for funds so don’t cry.

3.  P.S.  What do I do when I go through a neighborhood and people make faces and denigrating remarks at me?  Have a coniption fit?  Hate myself?  Become angry?

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By Sam, April 11, 2007 at 9:30 pm #
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It’s hard to know what would be best for ignorant public speakers.  I would like to think that such comments as Imus made would cost him his audience, and thus, his job.  To have to fire him indicts his audience.  That he has such a huge following indicts our whole country; our culture and education.

And I have to wonder at what we pick and choose to get riled up about.  Ernest’s quotes of Coulter and Beck are certainly more offensive in that they call for death and mayhem in the Middle East, for Liberals, journalists, and anyone who disagrees with them.  The airwaves teem with such talk.

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By kevin hendrickson, April 11, 2007 at 9:07 pm #
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The decision to fire Imus by MSNBS was wrong. This man has done more for charity and humanity than most syndicated show hosts or columnists. Let’s be real and truthful: blacks disparage their own more than we can say. Look at the rappers the comedians and black culture. Hey, if Imus was or is so horrible why no mention of the Tennessee girls basketball team.

I’ve watch the Imus show. It’s excellent His insight and commentary and discussion with guests are worth while and engaging.

Any one who can stomach Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson or Obama and the rest of the politically correct crew, leave alot to be desired. The same tired story line of how these poor girls were robbed of their accomplishmnet is total crap. Who else are we going to target? Does any honestly believe that this firing of Don Imus will bring all of us together or accomplish anything. As I’ve stated before, Don Imus has done more good for charity that any of his critics or detractors.

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By kevin hendrickson, April 11, 2007 at 9:02 pm #
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The decision to fire Imus by MSNBS was wrong. This man has done more for charity and humanity than most syndicated show hosts or columnists. Let’s be real and truthful: blacks disparage their own more than we can say. Look at the rappers the comedians and black culture. Hey, if Imus was or is so horrible why no mention of the Tennessee girls basketball team.

I’ve watch the Imus show. It’s excellent His insight and commentary and discussion with guests are worth while and engaging.

Any one who can stomach Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson or Obama and the rest of the politically correct crew, leave alot to be desired. The same tired story line of how these poor girls were robbed of their accomplishmnet is tital crap. Who is else are we going to target? Does any honestly believe that this firing of Don Imus will bring all of together or accomplish anything. As I’ve stated before, Don Imus has done more good for charity that any of his critics or detractors.

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By Alejandro, April 11, 2007 at 8:59 pm #
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I would like to know who doesn’t suffer from foot in mouth disease from time to time. The struggle for all America is to remain vigilant and honest about our own stupidity and to work towards correcting our intolerance towards each other. As far as I’m concerned Mr. Imus should not be fired, but should be given the opportunity to use his celebrity to expose the stupid and ignorant attitude that permeates the American culture; no matter what race you belong too. Need I remind anybody that Mr. Imus has demonstrated over the years his deep love for philanthropy and his hands on participation in exposing the political corruption in our Government via his morning talk show. Let’s not forget that we all need forgivness and so does Mr. Imus.

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By CJ, April 11, 2007 at 8:46 pm #
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Would have been nice had NBC taken into accounts viewers’ opinions as well, but no matter really. An NBC suit named Steven Capus appeared on Olbermann’s and Scarborough’s programs to declaim that NBC values its reputation for integrity, but also that he had long been a fan of Imus. ???? Really? Why, one could only wonder? (Of course decision by NBC execs to can Imus was based on withdrawal of sponsorship and nothing more, despite Capus’ absurd claims, not the least of which was claim that the financial thing to do would have been to retain Imus at MSNBC.)

Can anyone recall when media was last so confused? Well, drumbeat for war was the last time. Confusion is the result of wanting to have cake and eat it too, whether commentator is Scarborough or Sharpton, or pretty much anyone else who wields a degree of influence/power in a meritocracy that is also plutocracy/kleptocracy. (Murdock cares not in the least, since at Fox--for keepers as well as viewers--hypocrisy is for all practical purposes a virtue, something to be commended.)

NBC, CBS and ABC, along with others (over air, via cable and satellite radio and television)--in media biz and out of media biz--have more difficulty than does Fox with the problem of appearing hypocritical. “Appearing” is the operative word. Scarborough this evening almost got onto something when he wondered why--harsh criticism and dismissal--when Imus said it, but not when others have said or say it. Naturally, he then had to go to commercial. It’s always about the commercial break.

By now, I feel sorry for Imus. Never thought I would, but he’s being crucified on the cross of hypocrisy. I doubt he really is a racist, so much as a smart-ass kid (despite chronological age) who’s never had to grow up. Nor, for the very most part, have others members of the meretricious class ever had to do much growing up, whether in or out of mainstream media. Mr. Capus proved as much in saying what he had to say about the matter (but he was a long-time fan of Imus?). Most in media make easy livings spouting nonsense, while never having held down an actual J.O.B.

It’s getting to the top of the political-economic heap that seems to matter most (Gitlin has pointed out that when FDR proposed salary caps, majority of Americans did not favor the idea), and that’s about class--privilege, including access. Class interest is never seriously discussed, other than in condescending, typically classist, fashion, when not mockingly, as though there is no such thing, when it remains the only thing. Matter of practically religious faith in ideology of individualism, which is fervently believed to be only means to democractic freedom. Not different than belief in gods. Conspiracy is not required when matter is one of blind faith in given dogma.

Economic class division is the elephant in the middle of media’s (and media’s sponsors’, of course) living room. This minor skirmish, surrounding statements by a Mr. Donald Imus (whoever he might be, and who the hell really knows?) mainly involves concern for appearances, far more so than anything to do with concern for implementation of social justice, beginning with understanding of capitalism as fomenter of class struggle, extending to race and gender, obviously. The Imus skirmish, in the end, serves only to remind that the real subject is beyond ideological limits. That capitalism is essentially perfect is given “fact.” Something else must be wrong.  Therefore, confusion in, and on the part of, mainstream media, as usual. Never mind confusing cultural for political.

Here’s a thought: Does anyone think the women of the Rutgers University women’s basketball team are not being exploited by Rutgers University? They and every other college athlete?

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By Polly Ester, April 11, 2007 at 8:06 pm #
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Let me preface my comment by stating I’m not a fan of Imus, his sarcasm is just too acerbic for my sensibilities; especially when it is directed towards women—-but Imus should Not be the poster boy for bad behavior—-there are so many other despicable voices filling the air waves. What he said was deplorable, it was racist and misogynistic he stupidly thought he was funny, forgot he was not Chris Rock and placed his cowboy booted foot in his mouth. 

But racism and misogyny can come in many forms; it can be overt like Imus’ remarks, or it can be spread more dangerously and insidiously through misleading dialogue and contrived news, an obvious example, is the FOX Network.  How many news stories are tainted, allowing the public to reach skewed conclusions, some might say this is propaganda, but FOX calls it news. This is more offensive than sarcasm, pretending to be politically informative, but consciously misinforming, only further “dumbs down” the public.

And let’s not forget the radio shock jocks, like Rush Limbaugh, who goofed on Michael J. Fox, for shaking while discussing stem cell research and Parkinson’s disease, and Mike Savage who agreed 100 percent with a caller who said that gay rabbis would likely “rape teenage boys.” Oh, and remember Ann Coulter who called the 9/11 widows “gold-diggers” and John Edward’s a “faggot.”

Shock, lies, half-truths and fabrications are quite profitable for mainstream media--corporations are reaping the rewards--ridicule and lies sell and offer a superb distraction, the public remains catatonic while those in power remain in control.

To single out Imus, while neglecting the other polluters of the airwaves, gives me little comfort, given that the real political perpetrators of propaganda, will continue to commit their crimes yet another day.

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By Jim, April 11, 2007 at 8:06 pm #
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I have never liked the Imus show with its infantile humor with only his pandering staff seemingly thinking his comments were funny.  With that being said, it is not right to fire him over the comments made.  Tasteless and stupid yes, but not something to get fired over.  Arbitrary standards are impossible to both determine and enforce.  If Reverends Sharpton and Jackson think that this is such a terrible affront, that the words are so offensive, then we MUST demand equity.

All those making these offensive comments must be held accountable, regardless of the venue.  Those people that talk rap, whether they are either white or black, MUST also be held to the same standards that idiot Imus is being held.  The good Reverends, as well as all those others demanding their piece of Imus flesh, must illustrate to all by comparable action just how demeaning and painful those words are.  If the same cry for retribution is not made to those spewing their rap crap then we will all know that this is just a white v black charade.  We will see.

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By andy, April 11, 2007 at 8:03 pm #
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Shock Jocks have to get close to the line, and cross it a lot without getting called on it.  With an audience like he had, and the money, prestige, etc. that comes with it, he couldn’t afford to mess up, as hard as that may have been.  Not unlike many professions.

But where a guy is using racism to make money, I’m glad he’s one that got burned.

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By Louise, April 11, 2007 at 7:43 pm #
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The why and the how come?
The real story behind the pointless mouth in the empty head of Don Imus

‘It’s hurt us in a big way’:
Imus’ remark stuns Utahn and her Rutgers teammates

http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660210802,00.html

“It was amazing,” the Ogden High graduate said. “It was really a dream come true. ... While we were in the process of playing the games, I didn’t think about being a girl from little ol’ Ogden. But it is pretty awesome to think about now.”

Before the team could savor its accomplishment, a man they’d never heard of turned the experience into a nightmare in a way team members still don’t understand. As the team prepared to be honored by Rutgers College only a few days after the game, members learned that radio talk show host Don Imus referred to Adams and her teammates in a racially and sexually derogatory manner.

“It’s hurt us in a big way,” said the junior guard, a psychology major. “I can’t even explain, really. It just hurt us all very much. It’s affected us as a team; it’s affected us individually; it’s affected our families; it affects any woman or minority.”

No one can figure out the why and the how come!
Not even the dimwit who said it!

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By cann4ing, April 11, 2007 at 7:23 pm #

While Imus’s racist and sexist remarks were outrageous, and while I agree with the NBC decision, I can’t help but wonder why a similar reaction did not arise in response to the diatribes of hard-right pundits, Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck, that entail not only racism but calls for mass murder via a nuclear holocaust.

In a Dec. 21, 2005 syndicated column, Ms. Coulter stated, “I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East, and sending liberals to Guantanamo.” Appearing on CNBC’s “Kudlow & Kramer” on Feb. 7, 2005, when discussing whether the U.S. military was targeting journalists, the testy Ms. Coulter remarked, “Would that it were so!” In a Jan. 10, 2005 article appearing in the “New York Observer,” Coulter was quoted:  “I’m getting a little fed up with hearing about, oh, ‘civilian’ casualties.  I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world warning.” In “Cruel and Unusual,” Mark Crispin Miller quotes Coulter’s earlier remarks at a right-wing conference:  “We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too.”

Clear Channel’s radio host, Glenn Beck, was not one to be outdone by America’s Eva Braun.  During a May 17, 2005 broadcast of “The Glenn Beck Program,” Beck, who on May 8, 2006 began anchoring CNN’s “Headline News,” said, “Hang on; let me tell you what I’m thinking.  I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it.  No, I think I could.  I think he could be looking me in the eye, and I could just be choking the life out--is that wrong?” During a May 11, 2006 broadcast, Beck stated, “I say we nuke the bastards.  In fact, it doesn’t have to be Iran.  It can be everywhere, any place that disagrees with me.”

Instead of removal, the corporate media appears to reward hate speech when it flows from the mouths of right-wing nut cases like Beck and Coulter.

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By Olin, April 11, 2007 at 7:18 pm #
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As a Irish/English/German 82 year old American veteran, I have decided not to purchase any products offered for sale by advertizers who are funding Mr.Imus.

His comments on the Rutger’s basketball team makes such products unacceptable to me.

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By RAE, April 11, 2007 at 7:10 pm #

When I was a child whenever someone called us names we’d simply respond with “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.”

THEN WE MOVED ON WITH OUR LIVES. We understood that there would always be others, for whatever reasons, who felt so insecure and inferior that they had to compensate by assaulting others with bullying and name-calling.

We were taught not to waste our time fretting about these incidents. We were taught that people like that had more problems than we did and were to be pittied. We were taught to put our energies where they’d do us the most good - on our OWN adventures and aspirations.

When did it become fashionable to make impenetrable mountains out of these ubiquitous molehills? When did our skins become so thin that a “name” would become so toxic we needed to go into therapy to recover from the trauma? When did it become more worthwhile to put your own life on hold while you wasted yourself in an attempt to change someone else’s?

The Imus’s of this world, and there are many, are simply glib showoffs whose corporate bosses pimp for profit. It’s shame on the loudmouths and shame on their overlords. But I save my pity for the MILLIONS who have so little going for them they actually spend time listening or caring.

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By dreaming of peace, April 11, 2007 at 5:51 pm #
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I had never heard of “Imus” before this incident.  I don’t know why on earth he made such comments.  Quite frankly, I had to look up the words “nappy” and “hos” because I did not have a clue as to what they meant.  While I think such a statement about the Rutgers woman’s basketball team is incredibly insulting, I think the reaction is outlandish.  People make insulting comments about other people all the time.  In part, I guess that is due to our “freedom of speech”.  But, the carryings on that go on and on is nauseating.  I would say that “sticks and stones can break their bones, but, names can never hurt them”.  While that is not completely true, as is evidenced by their reactions, I am appalled by the outlandish reactions and demands.  What I wonder is, when are they going to start burning effigies of Imus, cbs, buildings, etc., or, even go so far as to behead the offenders.  I personally do not want to hear another word, and I suggest that the Rutgers women basketball players show what they are really made of and maintain their composure and dignity in the face of these sexist, racist and incomprehensible remarks.

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By Robert Hutwohl, April 11, 2007 at 5:35 pm #
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This is wonderful new!

Now, if we can just work on getting Bush and Cheny impeached. We can then further remove some of the rampant evil on this planet.

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