Patrick:

Your racist slur is unacceptable.  Pack your bags and go back to where your people came from.  If you find that difficult to do, someone from your local REZ came go over and help you sit on those bags until they zip closed.

Native Americans have been fighting for the return of their land for several centuries now—what do you think the Wounded Knee occupation was all about in the 70s—gambling licenses.?

Moonraven,

I think the founders were refering to personal rights not property rights as hyocritical as that sounds with most of them slaveowners.

I was unaware that native Americans had a word or concept of land ownership until the casinos arrived.

Pat:  But your Bill of Rights provided no rights for MY people—without whose land there would be no Gringolandia—nor for African Americans, nor for women nor for white males who did not have any of that land stolen from my people.

That, as we say, is the bottom line of this matter.

moonraven,

As a patriot I love my country but hate my government.  I don’t advocate American intervention in anything but the war on poverty, the war on hunger and any other war that would deprive anyone of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

As with other families worldwide, I take pride in my home, my neighborhood and local government because I make it so with my friends, coworkers and neighbors, once the politicians get elected and do bullshit in my name, I am speechless because it does not reflect our national consensus.

The Bill of Rights was not designed for gringo Americanos only but it was created for everyone worldwide, any banter otherwise is a ruse from the intended goal of the document.

“Fortunately, they have not managed to deport all the Spanish-speakers in
Tucson.”

The reactionary trends throughout the country are scary.  Maybe they’re the
stuff of death throes, of trying to seize control shortly before the inevitable.

Empires are a dime a dozen, historically speaking. They come and they go. 
This one is going down, I think, and I’m afraid without any caution or humility. 

Americans in general are illiterate when it comes to other languages.  I guess if
you think you’re living in the center of the universe, you assume everyone else
should should speak your language.

Fortunately, they have not managed to deport all the Spanish-speakers in Tucson.

Yet.

Moonraven

By “around here”, I meant this specific website TD.  Or Gringolandia media. 

Yes, might as well get your feet wet in cyberspace for the actual touching down in
Gringolandia.  It’ll ease some of the culture shock, I’d suppose.

Thanks, Oceanna.  But “around here” sounds uncomfortably like “in Gringolandia”, even in virtual space. 

But then, I guess I’d better pull up my pants, since in a couple weeks I will be on the ground in Arizona observing the latest genocidal manuevers of the white land thieves uber alles.

Did the Empire and their advisors in bizarro world think any of the obstacles
before they began saber-rattling throughout the media and sending over ammo to
the jihadist opposition in Syria?  Like the Russian equipped Syrian air force that’s
not malleable to a no-fly zone or the veto from Russia and China? 

I’m sure there will be a “humanitarian” loophole found somewhere that gets the
Obama admin past its stalemate of merely arming the opposition and endlessly
prepping the public for a Libya2 invasion.  I’d swear I’ve seen this movie before.

Good to see you around here, Moonraven.

Patrick:

I concur with Dr. Johnson, who said “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel”, and with Bob Dylan, who recycled that phrase in the 60s.

Patriots are pimps for fascism and genocide, both euphemistically called nationalism.

Libya was the template of how to hijack the Arab Spring and re-colonize the Middle East.

The next time you thank a vet for his or her service, be aware that that service is being done on behave of EXXON Mobile and BP.

Americans in general are either too dumb to notice, or simply don’t care as long as it’s other people who die.  There’s been more than enough evidence to make clear that all these Middle East dictators are deliberately allowed to infringe on their people’s human rights. Otherwise early interventions with real peacemaking negotiations, where the people’s interests are fully taken into consideration and people are helped to have the support they need to “speak truth to their overlords”, would be forthcoming as a matter of course.
  Thus the need for protests of the people would be get a fair hearing, and the impulses toward violence would be quelled by changes to their advantage.
  But who cares enough to intervene constructively ahead of time?  And why don’t we care, even as we prate about “democracy”?  Because money is to be made by selling weapons to both sides of the wars that inevitablyi ensue.
  It’s a racket, and we are some of the gangsters. Otherwise we would demand sincere early preventative negotiations which would stop wars before they start. 
  Our two-faced behavior (which mcCain so clearly illustrates) is sickening. “Don’t do anything constructive until it’s too late; then come in with your bombs, tanks, death squads and prisons, and call it “a people’s revolution aided by humanitarian intervention” or somethin equally hypocritical.

kafantaris,

Are you some kind of spambot created by the military industries? McCain is flat out wrong on this and we need to keep our troops out of it.  The rebels are killing most of the civilians in Syria.

Moonraven,

Please don’t confuse McCains warlike stance for patriotism, it isn’t even close.

Truth About Danny the Zionist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=chJm-qi9HHo

as for McPain and the concept of ‘Policeman of the World’ - had he been elected,
the empire and its NATO hit team would be no more vicious than under the
Obomber regime

principal difference: the anti-war movement would be robust and burgeoning -
not the impotent shell we now have, with marginal presence within OWS

vector:  Most gringos spend their time beating the drum for non-white blood.

I guess it’s a fulltime job, that.  Which is why nobody has a “real” job anymore.

kaftanmania:

That brutal regime killing people every day around the planet is called the US government, patriot.

Wise up.

I have an idea for this patriotic pimp, McCain:  DSrop his fat ass in Afghanistan and let him see who makes him a POW first.

The Syrian caper is just another CIA/Mossad/MI6 theater piece.  What about that Brit, Danny, the pseudo Syrian who’s been calling for an invasion of Syria while he directs the t.v. shows of armed conflict?

The youtube links are at the bottom of the page of this article, if you are a monolingual gringo patriot who cannot read Spanish:

http://www.aporrea.org/internacionales/n200260.html

Old John (Napalm) McCain; got shot down in Vietnam while incinerating women and children from the sky. a few of those little Yellow bastards fished his wounded ass out of the river before he drowned. Now he spends most of his time beating the drums of war for brown blood! Proof positive there is not (just) God.

gerard,

Thanks for sharing that. 

My sentiments exactly regarding the UN veto and its override.

Counterpunch.org had a very plain-spoken article online yesterday about why US OR NATO should NOT get into the Syrian situation with military force. The humanitarian argument is indeed strong, but Uri Avnery on “Why Intervening in Syria is a Crazy Idea.”
at least deserves a read, with a better, more lasting and unbiased intervention countering McCain’s suggestion.
  Avnery:  “BASHAR AL-ASSAD is teaching us that what is needed is a total overhaul of the UN charter. It must start with the veto.
“The division of power it represents is ridiculously outdated. Why China and not India? Why France and not Germany?
“But that is a minor point. The major point is that it is intolerable for one power, or even several, to block the will of mankind. Today, the UN is a veritable Vetostan.
“If the veto cannot be done away altogether, as it should, a mechanism must be found to limit it in a sensible way. For example: a 75% majority in the General Assembly, or a unanimous vote of all the non-veto-wielding Security Council members, should be able to override a veto.
“In such a case, the UN, under a new type of Secretary General, should be able to call upon the militaries of member states to put an end to crimes against humanity anywhere, making the intervention of organizations like NATO redundant.
“No major forces are needed in Syria. Egyptian and Turkish troops, in combination with the Free Syrian Army, should be sufficient.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2012/feb/23/brad-pitt-angelina-jolie-assads

McCain is way past due on retirement.

This stooge needs to get his collaberator ass to a retirement home quickly.

He is living proof of Diebold and the voter fraud rampant in US politics.

an please stop pretending to care about sandniggers. I mean you give a sh*tt
about palestinians and now you want Arabs to believe that you or the russians or
the chinese care about arabs?. I mean. Even Brangelina loves the Assads.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2012/feb/23/brad-pitt-
angelina-jolie-assads

please let the syrians alone. Your intervention in Iraq brought this sectarian
unbalance to syria. It`s Iraq`s Maliki government who`s backing the Assad
regime.