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McCain Defends Surge During Iraq Visit

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Posted on Apr 1, 2007
John McCain
telegraph.co.uk

Sen. John McCain stood by his optimistic view of the surge on Sunday after visiting a Baghdad market under heavy guard with a group of Republican lawmakers wearing body armor. Southwest of Baghdad, six American soldiers were killed by roadside bombings.


AP via Yahoo!:

After a heavily guarded trip to a Baghdad market, Sen. John McCain   insisted Sunday that a U.S.-Iraqi security crackdown in the capital was working and said Americans lacked a “full picture” of the progress. The U.S. military later reported six soldiers were killed in roadside bombings southwest of Baghdad.

Four soldiers were killed responding to the blast that killed the first two, the military said. Britain, meanwhile, announced that one of its soldiers had been shot to death in southern Iraq—its 104th combat casualty since the war started four years ago.

McCain, a Republican presidential hopeful who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, acknowledged a difficult task lies ahead in Iraq, but criticized the media for not giving Americans enough information about the recent drop in execution-style sectarian killings, the establishment of security posts throughout the city and Sunni tribal efforts against al-Qaida in the western Anbar province.

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By Kol Klink, April 3, 2007 at 12:25 am Link to this comment
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McCain had a very different opinion of the war in Iraq prior to being summoned to the white house for a closed door meeting with bushco. After that meeting the color in his face was completely drained and has not returned. He looks like a man that has just seen a ghost. Why the sudden and permanent change in facial color?

Perhaps Bushco explained to McCain how losing control of Iraqi oil and the diminishing of US power in the region would affect the future of the US. Since that meeting McCain has really changed his tune about the Iraqi war and jumped on Bushcos bandwagon. Hey, he has even made an attempt to kiss up to the christian right.

Meanwhile, West Point should step up production of our Army Officer Corps. Everytime the American People speak, as in the 06 election, Bushco will need a new crop of general officers to pursue his ‘new strategy’ for ‘victory’ in Iraq. After all, reasons bush, the American People surely do not want an end to the Iraq debacle…they just want a new crop of Army Generals that can pull off the impossible.

Not only is bush as mad as a hatter, his contagion has spread to McCain…or, was it in the cool aid served at the meeting?

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By Debra Istvanik-Strotman, April 2, 2007 at 10:01 pm Link to this comment
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How pathetic and sad is John McCain and other Republican lawmakers who went to Iraq, then had the nerve to tell us how great things are going. I do not think the six soldiers that lost their lives southwest of Baghdad would agree. Doubt their famileis would agree. The Iraqi civilians surely don’t see the progress these lying Republicans see. Easy to go to Iraq when you are protected by body armor and heavily guarded by miliary personell. Personell that should have been out fighting with fellow soldiers instead of babysitting McCain and his pals. If all is going so well why did you need such high security.
John McCain is at the end of his life with a reputation tattered beyond repair. In the past Bush has insulted and told many lies about McCain, yet McCain sucks up to Bush as though they were long lost brothers. You have become a pathetic, needy, poor excuse for a human being.TIme to get a set of balls and remember the things you once believed in and start speaking the the truth.

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By DennisD, April 2, 2007 at 8:13 pm Link to this comment
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Once a warrior and a man of principle, now a hack politician willing to do or say anything for a chance to grab the big brass ring. Sad to say the man stopped serving his country a long time ago. Just another actor that doesn’t know when to get off the stage at the Theater of the Absurd on the Potomac.

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By Dale Headley, April 2, 2007 at 4:30 pm Link to this comment
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How sad!  The man who was a hero, not only in Viet Nam, but in Congress, when he crossed the aisle to join Democrats on principle, has become a pathetic old man grasping for relevance.

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By Christopher Robin, April 2, 2007 at 1:50 pm Link to this comment
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Recall?

No civil war, no civil war, no civil war, The media is negative, The media is biased, no civil war?


Then after the election:

Yeah it’s a civil war.

NBC’s Nightly News provided further details about McCain’s one-hour guided tour. He was accompanied by “100 American soldiers, with three Blackhawk helicopters, and two Apache gunships overhead.” Still photographs provided by the military to NBC News seemed to show McCain wearing a bulletproof vest during his visit

more:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/01/mccain-iraq-stroll/


I see the right is parroting terms? But if they wish to discuss this Iraq policy, might I suggest they begin with the most foriegn of concepts to the “Far right”

Honesty.

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By Gandersen, April 2, 2007 at 12:46 pm Link to this comment
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Comment 61711

Hey MR. Neanderthal75 or RR (Radical Right)

Like other morons, you just want to blame this whole mess in Iraq on the Radical Left.  But, it is the Radical right that marched the U.S. into this quagmire in the first place.  Then, like our bumbling administration you jump from Iraq to Iran to try to shift the focus off of the mess “you” made and jump to a new mess, Iran. (Never ending war??)

Holding the Iranians responsible for killing our men and women in uniform is like putting your grandmother in front of a moving train and then when she get wacked, trying to hold the train accountable????  Bush and his crooked admin. “PUT” our soldiers in harms way on purpose and it had nothing to do with 911.  The US led by a bunch of hawks, just like being at war.  Oh, and there is oil in the region to, just in case “being at war” was not enough fun for the current admin.

Iran supplying weapons to Iraq would be like the US Supplying weapons to Canada if they got attacked, we would do the same damn thing!

The Sad bottom line is that you really think there is a “win” still possible.  No one expects 100% cessation of hostilities, not sure where you pulled that random fact from.  If we stay more violence will occur, if we leave more violence will occur, no chance of “0 %” hostilities.  If we wipe Iraq off the face of the earth, the extremists will just pop up somewhere else.

Please, in your next post “DEFINE” winning in Iraq. I would be very curious to see how you define it.

As I have said before, winning the war on terror is like winning the war on crime in America.  It is “un-winnable”.  The current administration knew/knows this and finds a perpetual state of war agreeable to their wacky world view.

I support and feel bad for the troops.  They are just the pawns on the chessboard.  Bush and his admin. have used and abused our troops.

As I heard just the other day, Patriotism is supporting your country all of the time and supporting your government when they deserve it.

They do not deserve it.  They are making all Americans look bad.

Sincerely,

Proud to be an American, but lately embarrassed.

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By vet240, April 2, 2007 at 12:38 pm Link to this comment
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I agree 100 percent with vanjejo.

We have allowed an arrogant, dim-witted, lazy, retarded idiot (bush) and a thief and liar (Cheney) to kidnap our Government and use the wealth and blood of our troops to serve their nefarious ends.

Now John (I’m a hero) McCain has joined them in their endeavor. Being captured by the enemy and locked up fro five years just makes you an ex-POW. If we had done in the early 70’s what McCain suggests must be done now (ignore the majority) he would still be in that POW camp in Hanoi.

By going into Iraq we who had already made the Iraqis life miserable, have compounded their trauma.

Can you imagine living under the conditions the innocent Iraqis find themselves in today as a result of our unwarranted pre-emptive attack on them?

The term pre-emptive attack used by the Administration, implied an attack from Iraq was immenent. That has since been proven to be yet another lie by this Republican administration.

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By Jake, April 2, 2007 at 11:33 am Link to this comment
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to Neanderthal75:

Are you incredibly ignorant or just stupid?

The Iranians are not supplying “Al-Qaeda” with “sophisticated IEDs”(It would be pure idiocy to supply one’s enemies, as Iran’s people are Shia and the insurgents you call “Al-Qaeda” are Sunni). 

There are so many things wrong with that ludicrous claim.  First off, prove to me “Al-Qaeda” actually exists.  Can you?  No, you can’t because there’s never been a shred of proof. 

Second, EFPs are not “sophisticated”, anyone who’s spent some time in a machine shop could make them in mass quantities, they showed them being made on the Discovery channel!

Also, there’s no proof they came from Iran. You can’t prove that either, and neither can the feds.  It’s complete hearsay.

If you’re so concerned about “Al-Qaeda”, why aren’t you advocating the invasion and occupation of Saudi Arabia?  They are most certainly supplying the insurgency AND most of the alleged 9/11 hijackers were from there. 

Of course, there’s no proof that the 9/11 hijackers even existed as claimed(at least on public record, in fact some of them have turned up alive!) or that they were on the planes, but I doubt information like that could disturb the world view of a blissfully ignorant war-monger such as yourself.

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By Bluewater, April 2, 2007 at 10:50 am Link to this comment
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Seems like a “full picture of the progress” to me…

John always prefers an Apache escort and wears a flak jacket when he goes shopping. No problem here.

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By felicity, April 2, 2007 at 9:42 am Link to this comment
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McCain seems to be losing it big time. He has become his own worst enemy.  One has to wonder if the lure of the presidency doesn’t end up destroying an individual’s humanity.

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By Hemi, April 2, 2007 at 9:31 am Link to this comment
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Does Senator McCain suggest that we supply flak jackets to all Iraq citizens? Then eveybody can go to market. Wheeeeeee!!!

Of course the Iranians are part of the problem N75. And the Syrians, Saudiis, Afganiis and every other Arab nation with disgruntled young citizens. You’ve seen how the Saudiis responded to our 50 years of propping up their monarchy this week. Their oil fields must be running dry.

We’re back to being there for the oil. We’re there so that the Chinese wont be. At least not until they need the oil a little more than we do.

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By W Lewis, April 2, 2007 at 9:14 am Link to this comment
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Do any of you fine folks out there ever feel that something is so obvious, you can see its epitaph written even before it actually happens? Sort of like this so called war, we all know what is going to happen. How about McCain? Is he for real?
Lately, We have seen many losers, but this guy should team up with Neanderthal and perhaps they should elope together.
I am sure that even the members of his own twisted ideology wouldn’t vote for him, he is so ridicules that when the voting machines are fixed to favor him, they most likely won’t do it either.

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By Joe, April 2, 2007 at 8:28 am Link to this comment
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Helicopters above, humvees fore and aft, body armor, surrounded by security armed with the latest WMDs, McCain fearlessly stepped beyond the green zone for a few minutes to report that all is well now in Baghdad and the rest of Iraq. What courage!

Too bad that our troops and the Iraqis don’t have the same support when they venture out of their non-greenzone mostly destroyed houses. Only six military killed at the same time.

Good thing he is too old and feeble to run for the presidency and win!

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By James Yell, April 2, 2007 at 8:23 am Link to this comment
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American politics have always been like making sausage, a process best not talked about, except of course if we don’t it gets worse.

Sen. John McCain is one of the worst disappointments. I knew I probably could not agree with him on much, but until he snuggeled up to Bush I at lest admired his apparent reality based speaking out. Since becoming a promoter of the Iraq war and unending conflict I can’t continue with my optimistic view of Sen. John McCain.

I had once thought seriously about voting for him as an alternative to Hillary, now all I can do is hope Hillary is not the Democratic candidate. A Hillary vs. MCain, would leave me un-Able to vote for either one.

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By vanjejo, April 2, 2007 at 5:25 am Link to this comment
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The American people have never had enough knowledge passed on via the media - it is SANITIZED and has been since day one.
You do not offer “liberation” and follow up by bombing and killing innocent people - you do not lie and turn it into an imperialistic take over of a countries oil fields. 
Iraq was much different than this administration portrays.  The people had great schools with some very good professors and institutes of higher learning.  They admired our technology and their kids were no different than our own.
They watched this induced civil war and bushes intinery of “liberation” roll over their country.  100’s of thousands dead and even more in exile from their homeland - virtually leaving the oil fields open for take over.
We’ve destroyed the infrastructure, stolen money, made their citizens pay u.s. corporations tons of money for “reparations” from supposed prior losses, given away oil contracts to foreign countries over the priority of Iraqi’s.
This is what the media failed to cover -
it has always been there and very reportable, but our media wasn’t interested in broadcasting anything but heave ho patriotism.  WE CREATED INSURGENTS and also instilled fear and death to control this country for reasons other than what is portrayed.  The WMD lie and the LIE of “liberation”.

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Civilian Casualties in the 2003 Iraq War:
A Compendium of Accounts and Reports

Baghdad, cluster bomblet: “A sedan with two flat tyres pulled up, with an entire wounded family, and the corpse of a baby girl. Her name was Rawand, and she was nine months old. When her family returned to their home for the first time since the war yesterday, she crawled over to a small dark oval - a cluster bomblet - which detonated, killing her outright, and injuring her mother, and two of her boy cousins. ... Rawand’s father, Mohammed Suleiman, was inconsolable. ‘I am going to kill America - not today, after 10 years,’ he swore.”

Suzanne Goldenberg,
“War in the Gulf: The hell that once was a hospital,”
The Guardian, 12 April 2003, p. 6.

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By Neanderthal75, April 2, 2007 at 2:58 am Link to this comment
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Hello All,

The sad bottomline is that anti-War folks will NOT accept victory, even if it is handed to them on a platinum platter.

Anti-War critics want proof of a 100% IMMEDIATE cessation of ALL hostilities by ALL parties involved, anything less is “failure.” This view by anti-War critics is neither realistic nor plausible in any military sense or for that matter, common sense.

All the while they continue to decry the devastation, but will NOT hold Iran culpable for supplying the deadly and sophisticated IED’s, which are killing our men and women in uniform, and hundreds of Iraqis.

They don’t want to acknowledge Iran’s roll, all the while complaining violently about the deaths resulting from the Iranian ordinance being used by Al Qaeda in Iraq.

More double standards and hypocrisy as usual from the RL (Radical Left).

The brightside to all of this is that as Iran becomes more belligerent, the RL shall LOSE the ear of the middle of America, as it becomes blatantly CLEAR that the Iranians are murdering our people, and are engaging in war against the USA.

The Iranian-USA war isn’t waiting to begin, it has already begun. The Iranian IED’s prove that sad fact.

The pundits ignore the proof. The politicians aren’t bright enough to ignore it, so they concentrate on what their ignorance allows: collecting money and getting re-elected.

The Lemmings of the American Electorate are doing what they do best: continuing to head for that vast body of water, across which is “Paradise.”

The Jihadists are handing out lead lifevests to each and every Lemming.

The Lemmings will reach the water and the Jihadist will reach their goal: destruction and massive loss of life.

A pity no one in Washington, on any side, is willing to smell the cordite and blood already in the air.

Cheers.

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