Bud, December 10 at 6:37 pm

Errr Bud, Lieberman is not a Democrat.

I’m a lifelong Democrat.  I was very supportive of Obama and hopeful that he really would change the mess the friggin Republicans got us into (one more time).

All I see now is a smooth talking jerk who is incapable of delivering on his campaign promises and a bunch of cowardly Democrat Congressmen who are as impotent and chicken shit now as they were when the Republicans were running the country into the ground (one more time).

Don’t know why everyone is turning against Lieberman. He’s the same opportunist he was in 2000 which says much more about the people who voted for him than his politician-ness. What never was cannot be betrayed, yet progs continue to vote for whomever the Dems parade in front of them. In fact, I’d bet that if Lieberman and Kucinich were the Democratic candidates tomorrow, most Dems would still end up voting Lieberman because they’re too damn chickenshit to prop up someone who actually stands for what they believe in. Even the teabagging birthers got organized and formed some semblence of an independence from the Repubs. What have progs done other than to spew their continued anger that they’ve been hoodwinked yet again?

Hey Charlie Brown! Come kick this football…

“could spoil the deal”?  I’m with Anarcissie on this one.  Rewrite, rewrite…see http://www.pnhp.org and the groups supporting HR676.  The “deal” and the bill is crap (to use the late “Grandpa” Al Lewis’ word).

OK, I now know reform as I want it will not be done through this congress. So, here is what I want. I want my family and all legalized Americans on the same policy as our congress, not one like it, the same one(and if you’re not legally American-get legalized as quick as you can). Simple. No such term as cannot, but should this seemingly be the case, then abolish the coverage for congress and rewrite to make us all the same. No such thing as no, just do it. Next, I want ethics back in government, or maybe in government for the first time. No campaign contribution coffers accepted for anyone. No outside contribution other than those donated to a fund distributed equally to all candidates based on year long donations only to this fund by us. No money, media time, can be gotten except from the equally distributed funding. The fund is set up like the presidential donation fund on tax forms, yet all money donations can be taken but must be distributed to all equally. Penalty for doing otherwise is loss of candidacy. Corporations and their lobbyists would not be able to manipulate by money power influence to a specific candidate or their family members. I want ethics to be a top priority and the quality for which a bill is passed rather than obtained benefits to the candidate or their family. This for starters, so stop the vote on health care reform and just put us on that policy they have. Rather simple really. Also, a C-span media outlet is only allowable media way of presenting your candidacy. The rest of interest can be piqued by internet blogging, but to see & hear the candidate you must go to the proper channel only. What do you think? Have you had enough yet?

Time to walk, progs.

g anderson, their is no health care industry in this country, just a health insurance industry with health care workers.

The Lieb religiously votes for American aid to Israel which subsidizes SOCIALIZED MEDICINE FOR ALL ISRAELI’S INCLUDING CHOCOLATE LOTION MASSAGES,while denying American medical care, compliments of the American Taxpayers. I have to compliment the Israeli government for their ability and desire to put their citizens interest first. Americans are suckers and don’t even know it.

Gee, what a surprise.

I see the Democrats are still running their ‘blame someone else’ propaganda line by trying to pin the blame on Lieberman.

The Democrats hold the majority in both houses, and also the Presidency.  Please spare us your fake blame pointing towards the awful Lieberman.  This is the Democrats disaster from start to finish. 

Look at the votes when they pass these bills, and see lots of Democrats voting YEA.  Look at the signature on this bill when it goes into law, and read the name “Barrack Obama”.

Then look at the millions that the big health corporations have poured into the Democratic Party.  By then, you’ll know who’s really responsible for this disaster of a bill.

Remember that when the lying Democrats ask for your vote in 2010 and 2012.

Then they might as well just kill the whole deal. Without a public option American’s will remain the victims of health care corporate America.

Instead how about a subsidy on Airline Tickets for those that want to go to India, China and Mexico for health care. It would be cheaper.

Betrayl doesn’t even begin to cover it.

Just as Detroit destroyed itself by buying off congress to prevent regulation and compettion, the so called health care industry will destroy itself without reform. Eventually their lies and manipulations and payoffs of congress will destroy it just like, what happened to the Auto industry.

We will end up having to own the health care corporations just like we now own GM.

The political process no longer works in this country it is a complete and total failure.

Earlier this year when the debates on Health Insurance/Care (HIC)  began I averred that the construct of a new Federal program, in this case “Public Option”, was an act of supreme idiocy when there was already a working Federal program, namely Medicare, available.

It absolutely beats me why so-called “progressives” and “liberals” have been so wildly enthusiastic for and now bemoan the demise of this monstrosity called “Public Option” which would have resulted in the rise of a huge, new and utterly useless bureaucracy. Its demise has opened by a tiny crack the door to “Medicare for All”.

Still, there appears to be another needless and idiotic expansion of a Federal bureaucracy in the cards, namely the one that is to supervise the so-called “Health Insurance Market”.

There is some good regulation of the Insurance industry in these bills but they could have been passed months ago as separate bills.

Didnt we already know this was going to happen? This bill, whatever its eventual form, will not resolve our health care crisis only be another in along list of financial windfalls to an industry that needs no such thing.

Is anyone really surprised? This is probably what they had planned all along.