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Krugman: ‘Welcome to Post-Truth Politics’Posted on Dec 24, 2011
To refashion an old phrase: “There are lies, damned lies, then yarns spun by Mitt Romney.” This is the gist of a recent post by Paul Krugman, who points to falsehoods recently uttered by the Republican presidential hopeful to predict new lows in a new era of fact distortion wrought by those seeking the helm of the highest level of federal government. —ARK
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By Lafayette, December 26, 2011 at 11:19 pm Link to this comment
Kinda stoopid.
We did that two years ago and what we got was the T-Party (T for Troglodyte) into Congress stonewalling out of spite any legislation that ressembled stimulus spending and refusing tax hikes to close budget deficits.
Wake up ... the same people who bitch-in-a-blog (meaning this one) stay away from elections at the rhythm of one voter out of two.
We have one of the worst voter turnout records on earth. Scroll down to the bottom of the list here.
We are a nation of politically apathetic stooges who get Highly Discomforted when those at the levers of power treat us like the sheeple that we are. But who gave those representatives power over our political destiny? Do we have any Real-Right to bitch and moan?
Stop the moaning. Fix the problem. There is no QuickFix to a mess we’ve been getting ourselves into for decades. So let’s get the ball rolling.
We have met the enemy and he is us. (“Pogo” by Walt Kelly)
Report thisBy balkas, December 26, 2011 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment
i have listened to and read what rocky anderson and ron paul wrote.
i agree with both of them but with some modification, nevertheless, of what and how they say it.
alas, as far as i know, they do not say HOW/WHEN they’d accomplish even one change which they propose.
take for instance just the constitution and the fact that it cannot be known nor understood and the fact that it is interpreted by
judges appointed by the two wings of one goose?
how wld anderson or paul persuade the supreme court to interpret the constitution or any law so that congresspeople, w.h
members cld be at least removed from office and banksters, large shareholders at least fined for the alleged violation of the
constitution and any law?
haven’t already—tho tacitly—the supreme court declared all of them innocent. yes, a few individuals had been sacrificed on the
altar of infallibility of u.s system of governance, ideology, and constitution, but vast number of people have been rewarded on the
same altar.
take also the war. nearly all object to wars on the fact that it costs money and some lives and that they are based on lies.
Report thisbut this begs the question, Aren’t all wars of aggression based on lies? and such a conclusion lead to another that it wld be ok to
wage wars if they’d be based on truth?
and which prompts one to conclude that the ‘truth’ as a justification for a war can easily be manufactured and doubters oh so easily
scared if they’d dare doubt the great white or black father, congress, MSM, cia/fbi, judges, lawyers, actors, teachers, ‘educators’, et
al! tnx bozhidar balkas, vancouver
By Rixar13, December 26, 2011 at 5:55 pm Link to this comment
“But won’t there be some blowback? Won’t Mr. Romney pay a price for running a campaign based entirely on falsehoods? He obviously thinks not, and I’m afraid he may be right.”
What matters is that I know the truth….
Report thisBy gerard, December 26, 2011 at 5:45 pm Link to this comment
The more the public is in the hands of a conspiracy of liars, the more the public needs a conspiracy of honest hackers. S-R Cause-Effect
Report thisBy Michael Cavlan RN, December 26, 2011 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment
For all out there who promote EOTL or the Evil Of Two Lessers.
Report thisBy Michael Cavlan RN, December 26, 2011 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment
Indeed
Vote for Rocky Anderson.
Just do not expect to see any stories about him or his campaign at TruthDig. They are far too busy getting stories about evil Romney-Ron Paul-Gingrich
NOW there is a fine bit of TruthDigging for ya.
Report thisBy berniem, December 26, 2011 at 1:34 pm Link to this comment
In this season of civil disobedience I strongly believe that if there are no reasonable choices in future elections, one should just cast a blank ballot and see what actually happens when politicians are “elected” by a barely discernible number of voters(Diebold willing, of course). I truly believe that should a government be installed with no actual plurality, actions taken against it would be much more credible due to the vast number of protestors vs voters. Neither face of our Janus duopoly is invested in telling us the truth or actually working for the improvement of society so why should we waste the effort of choosing one or the other?
Report thisBy Tuscany, December 25, 2011 at 7:44 pm Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)
Yes. Rocky Anderson has my vote too.
Report thisBy D.R. Zing, December 25, 2011 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment
Krugman nails it, but one of the comments after article is even
better. Check this out:
PhlegyasNew Hampshire
The media is NOT fair and balanced. I spent forty years in radio and
television news and the new reality is that conglomerates have
replaced the people who used to see broadcasting as a PUBLIC TRUST.
Rupert Murdoch can cover 40% of country with local Fox news and the
rest with Fox cable peddling his certain well known views. Roger
Ailes, who runs Fox news, is a former Republican operative and
consultant. Disney, an entertainment company, owns ABC.
General Electric owns NBC. For 2010 General Electric paid NO TAXES on
$14 BILLION dollars in profits $5 BILLION of which was made in the US.
GE also got $3.2 BILLION in tax breaks through lobbying Congress.
Think you’re going to find that story covered on NBC?
When the House Republicans first rejected the Senate move to extend
the payroll tax cut for two months, THREE AND A HALF MILLION AMERICANS
faced a cut off of their extended unemployment benefits on January
1st. These people were totally ignored in the coverage.
The hurting are ignored in the mainstream media and so are real
efforts by real people in the streets. Thousands are in the march, but
the picture they present are a few scattered violent confrontations,
not the peaceful, pointed marches everywhere in this country.
What is the answer? The alternative media is helping, but of course
Report thisyou need a computer and an internet connection—-a tall order when you
are jobless, out f of unemployment benefits and struggling to put food
on the table.
By balkas, December 25, 2011 at 9:25 am Link to this comment
the wider/longer the look, the wiser one is. i suggest that ?all columnists [including
Report thiskrugman] know that.
however, their devotion to the u.s/nazi ideology [basicly owning/commanding people
even to murder people in name of that ideology] occludes that deep, long, widest
look possible that solely elucidates; so, they always cast the narrowest look possible.
political look and the look on politicians represent a narrow[est] look and thus cannot
arm us with any useful knowledge.
and what is even worse than that, is that ?all columnists, politicians, educators, treat
politics as existing apart from life, laws, governance, education, military, spy
agencies, etc.
and the confusion among the plebes is complete. and not only that but also the
confused, bedumbed turning away from minding own business.
hallelujahs, how sweet it is for the 20%! virtual heaven!.
is OWS onto this? since u do not need any education save even one bad eye let alone
two good ones in order to see it, i expect the OWS sees it.
By balkas, December 25, 2011 at 8:57 am Link to this comment
it never ends: dwelling solely on what some individuals say/do and never why 99% of
Report thisamericans had always up to now voted but for liars/deceivers, war-sellers, people
owners.
there are causes for such antiself behavior—the chief one among them is the fact that
u.s system of life [and thus constitution/governance] is founded on the ‘right’ of an
individual to own and command another individual and almost always an individual
with less education and money than her/his owner or kommandant.
it’s the nazi ideology, stupid and one imparted to children by cults, constitution, laws;
nearly all educators/teachers, columnists, economists, lawyers, actors, generals,
cia/fbi agents, mayors, police people, et al.
so what’s a kid to do but to accept that ideology as true and true for all time?
and the rest is fun and games as long as the 80% of americans keep sending their
children to nazi youth camps—oops, schools! tnx
By Anarcissie, December 25, 2011 at 8:51 am Link to this comment
Krugman’s complaint is strange. When was politics ever about the truth? Politics is about power, not truth.
Report thisBy prisnersdilema, December 24, 2011 at 6:28 pm Link to this comment
What maybe even more fighting is that both the Republican Party and the Democratic
party believe their lies to be true.
They have both lost touch with reality. But eventually reality will catch up with them.
Report thisBy gerard, December 24, 2011 at 5:57 pm Link to this comment
Seems that lying is coin of the realms of both business and politics. Occupy the truth!
Report thisBy gstoddard, December 24, 2011 at 5:22 pm Link to this comment
Neither the media or the public are interested in evidence or facts. The
politicaspeak is just repeated incessantly until it is accepted and the public hasn’t
the interest or the energy to evaluate the assertions that then become the
foundation of policy decisions. Sound bites are so much easier to digest than
meaningful dialogue.
Th sadness is that good information is available but it doesn’t make it to 24/7
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By christian96, December 24, 2011 at 3:58 pm Link to this comment
What’s the difference between the lies of Romney
or Obama? Today, I received a Christmas e-mail
from President Obama. The following is my response:
Thanks for the Christmas
Report thise-mail message. When are
you going to keep your
promise to eliminate
income tax on social
security for people making less than $50,000?
The Bible says, “The
devil is the father of
lies.” Better check what
spirit is guiding you.
Say “Merry Christmas” to
Senator Joe Manchin. He
is a friend of mine.
By bigchin, December 24, 2011 at 3:38 pm Link to this comment
(Unregistered commenter)
Political prevarication is, demonstrably, a bi-partisan affliction.
Always pointing at the other guy (the GOP) makes you look foolish and, indeed, stupid. And that’s coming from someone who has never voted for a Republican.
Quite frankly, Obama is the most audacious (and dangerous) presidential liar during the 4 decades of my political awareness.
Obama is a fraud.
Vote for JUSTICE - vote for ROCKY ANDERSON!
Report thisBy Robespierre115, December 24, 2011 at 3:13 pm Link to this comment
Romney’s a sack of trash, but so is Obama when it comes to distorting the truth, using empty rhetoric and promoting violence overseas.
Oh and MERRY CHRISTMAS to all Truthdiggers, may the season bring you peace and unity no matter your race, creed or faith.
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