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Afghans to Take Lead in Night Raids

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Posted on Apr 8, 2012
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A deal between the Afghan government and U.S. forces puts all nighttime raids—military operations that have stirred rage against American troops among Afghan civilians—under the direction of the Afghan military. —ARK

BBC:

The US military say night raids are a valuable way of finding and detaining suspected militants.

But many Afghans say the raids violate privacy and disrespect women.

The operations, currently carried out by Nato and Afghan special forces, have been a growing cause of friction between the Afghan government and the US military.

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By moonraven, April 11, 2012 at 2:26 pm Link to this comment

You must have drunk your lunch, heteronym.

Your post is even more ungrammatical and incoherent that your incoherent norm.

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By heterochromatic, April 11, 2012 at 1:50 pm Link to this comment

no moonie, I’m not at all claimed that indigenous people are going to destroy the
planet. I didn’t so group you.

the words spell out the categorization clearyl, m’dear, demented racists.

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By moonraven, April 11, 2012 at 1:02 pm Link to this comment

Oops, my bad.  I thought you were posting with your usual fracturing of grammar and syntax.

In that case, only number 1 that I posted is true and number 2 should have been:  You have posted another infantile personal attack against me.

As for your claim, then, that its indigenous folks who are going to destroy the planet, all I can say is that we lived lightly on the land for many many thousands of years before you showed up and turned a pristine but inhabited wilderness into a parking lot and a toxic waste dump.

Something appears to be really WRONG with you.

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By heterochromatic, April 11, 2012 at 12:50 pm Link to this comment

no it did not… if you wish to know, ask me.

and no it was not. if you understand the slang term of “offing” then you’ll be able
to grasp my meaning.

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By moonraven, April 11, 2012 at 12:07 pm Link to this comment

heteronym:

1.  Your post admitted that YOU are a zionist.

2.  Your post was also an infantile threat against my person.

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By heterochromatic, April 11, 2012 at 11:54 am Link to this comment

more likely that demented racist moonies will off the
planet, goatie.

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By moonraven, April 11, 2012 at 10:09 am Link to this comment

Zionists off the planet NOW!

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By heterochromatic, April 10, 2012 at 6:53 pm Link to this comment

Pat—- I’m not sure that Afghanistan is home to all that many Zionists, so I’ll just
chalk up your attempted reply to your obsessiveness.

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By PatrickHenry, April 10, 2012 at 6:07 pm Link to this comment

tic,

Knowing the propensity of the zionist’s to create their own truth I’ll put your offering next to my OBL library of video’s.

http://www.salon.com/2011/08/12/pakistan_drones_children/

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By heterochromatic, April 10, 2012 at 5:46 pm Link to this comment

Pat—- you don’t know what you’re gassing about.

http://youtu.be/uA3N4xLHLEs

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By PatrickHenry, April 10, 2012 at 5:33 pm Link to this comment

tic,

PH—- Not sure what you’re getting at. We certainly ain’t committing the same violations against Afghan women that the Afghan men commit.

I am sure you are thick.

American troops are committing far worse crimes against the locals than the taliban. 

Drone strikes at funerals and weddings, men, women and children in a puff of smoke.  OOps, we’re sorry, here’s some money.

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By heterochromatic, April 10, 2012 at 11:26 am Link to this comment

do not open ....

http://tinyurl.com/sec8bird

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By moonraven, April 10, 2012 at 10:37 am Link to this comment

Racist piecework poster heteronym is concerned about the possibiolity that AFGHAN WOMEN WILL BE RAPED IF aFGHANS TAKE OVER THE NIGHT PATROLS.

APPARENTLY HIS EMPLOYERS HAVE NOT INFORMED HIM THAT ALL THE WOMEN KILLED IN THE NIGHTRAID SALUGHTERHOUSES THAT PROVOKED THIS CHANGE WERE RAPED BY 15-20 GRINGO GRUNTS.

It’s not clear if they were raped while they were alive or after their brains had been sprayed all over the walls of their houses.

I’m sure our resident racist will claim that they asked to be raped and that it was done humanely, as only white rapists can do.

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By heterochromatic, April 10, 2012 at 6:23 am Link to this comment

PH—- Not sure what you’re getting at. We certainly ain’t committing the same
violations against Afghan women that the Afghan men commit.

vec—- I grow weary of you thinking that you’ve got a clue about my attitude or
affinity for people of various hues.

but you are correct that the customs of the Afghans towards women were every bit
as repulsive when we were arming them.

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By vector56, April 10, 2012 at 5:23 am Link to this comment

heterochromatic, all these things where true concerning the treatment of women for years when the Taliban were our allies! As long as they were killing young Russian boys (with the CIA provided “Stingers”) we were ok with that?

I find it hard to believe that some one like you could give-a shit about little Brown women on the other side of the world.

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By PatrickHenry, April 10, 2012 at 3:19 am Link to this comment

What does it tell you that the U.S. is violating and committing the same violations against the populace (especially the females) that we accuse the taliban of?

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By bluejeanne, April 9, 2012 at 8:06 pm Link to this comment
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That’s right CHROME   ‘cultural differences’ and ‘one does have to note that their sense of respect for women is sort of nauseating.’ 

There are reasons to be nauseated about the manner in which females are treated in American / Western societies as well.  How does it make you feel to see little girls paraded around in adult womens’ costumes wearing tiaras and make-up only to be exploited by their own mothers and the t.v. audience ?

Or maybe you feel a bit queazy to see women flinching in high heels because their toes are squashed but even so the dress code REQUIRES that they wear such foot attire?

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By heterochromatic, April 9, 2012 at 7:05 pm Link to this comment

cultural differences, goatboy…..


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/03/rig
hts-group-women-afghanistan.html


REPORTING FROM KABUL, AFGHANISTAN—A leading human
rights group on Wednesday denounced the longstanding
Afghan practice of jailing rape victims and girls or
women who flee forced marriages, and called on the
government to begin making a much more meaningful
effort to enforce laws aimed at protecting women’s
rights.


=======================================
How does Afghanistan treat women? Here’s what I saw
By Sharon Schmickle
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http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy/2009/04/how-
does-afghanistan-treat-women-heres-what-i-saw

One in nine Afghan women die in childbirth, according
to the World Health Organization, giving the country
one of the highest maternal mortality rates on Earth.
The upshot is that life expectancy for Afghan women
is 46 years.

The reasons are set deep in a complex culture guided
by tribal codes of honor, pockets of Islamic law and
the common rule of the Kalashnikov.

In some rural provinces girls are given to older men
to settle legal disputes.

In many provinces, parents arrange for their
daughters to be married at age 12 or 13. A year or
two later, they give birth before their pelvic bones
are fully formed. When such a young a girl’s labor is
obstructed, her uterus ruptures and she dies a
horrible death, health workers told me.

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By vector56, April 9, 2012 at 7:04 pm Link to this comment

Correction; yes, it was Taos.

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By moonraven, April 9, 2012 at 6:37 pm Link to this comment

Another snide racist post from heteronym.

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By moonraven, April 9, 2012 at 6:23 pm Link to this comment

I lived for ten years in northern New Mexico before splitting for Mexico where I saw talus slide piles—but don’t know anyplace called that.

Are you sure you don’t mean Taos?  In Taos there is the Kit Carson House Museum and a host of things are named after the genocidal bastard.  He was the one to put together the Navajo Removal plan (among other genocidal capers)—where folks were forced to walk to Old Fort Sumner (where they later killed Billy the Kid, I think) and 50% died there from starvation and then they had to walk back to Navajoland, losing a lot of folks on the trail. 

I don’t know if things are named after him down near Fort Sumner, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

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By heterochromatic, April 9, 2012 at 6:22 pm Link to this comment

the raids certainly violate the Afghans code of conduct. They’re people with a real
strong sense of what constitutes disrespect for women…........

and one does have to note that their sense of respect for women is sort of
nauseating.

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By vector56, April 9, 2012 at 6:13 pm Link to this comment

moonraven;

Funny you should mention old “Kit Carson”; while hanging out with my wife (a traveling Nurse) in a place called Talus New Mexico for about 3 months I notice that every other building and street sign had Kit Carson’s name on it. Hell you couldn’t walk 3 feet with dripping over a statue of this son-of-a bitch.

No need to wonder how this made the Pueblo feel. Like in Afghanistan today, They still cling to that
Puritanical petty urge to “rub it in” the faces of the people they dominate.

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By PatrickHenry, April 9, 2012 at 2:43 pm Link to this comment

“But many Afghans say the raids violate privacy and disrespect women.”

Those same American freedoms our boys and girls are fighting halfway around the world for.  Yep, good old American values.

Those troopers over there better watch their ass.

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By moonraven, April 9, 2012 at 1:02 pm Link to this comment

vector,

I think it’s even worse than that:  It is forcing folks in Afghanistan to commit genocide against their families and neighbors.

Sort of like Kit Carson’s Indian scouts….

Same old extermination policy against non-whites.

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By diamond, April 8, 2012 at 9:07 pm Link to this comment

The blind leading the blind.

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By bigchin, April 8, 2012 at 5:33 pm Link to this comment
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that’ll help…

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By vector56, April 8, 2012 at 3:47 pm Link to this comment

Consider our reaction if say Mexico or Canada sent “Jack-booted-thugs to kick in our doors at random pulling your family out of the house at gun point.

Getting our Afghan “puppets” to violate their own people for us changes the situation little.

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