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Ear to the Ground

Iran to U.S.: Your Aircraft Carrier Is Not Welcome Here

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Posted on Jan 3, 2012
White House / David Bohrer

Here we see the vessel in question, the USS John C. Stennis, in a photo from 2007.

Tuesday brought another round of the tug of war between Iran and the U.S., in which Iran, no doubt feeling the need to respond to pressure and sanctions intended to thwart Tehran’s alleged plan to build a nuclear weapon, hit back by making it clear that an American aircraft carrier needed to stay away from the “Persian Gulf region.” Meanwhile, the U.S. spun Iran’s reaction as a positive sign.  —KA

Update: The Pentagon is carrying on with business as usual for aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf.

CNN:

U.S. officials rejected the “warning” and another recent threat from Tehran that it could close the Strait of Hormuz. The White House and U.S. State Department called the latest threats signs that sanctions against Iran, the result of a standoff over its nuclear activities, are working.

“The Islamic Republic of Iran will not repeat its warning,” said Maj. Gen. Ataollah Salehi, commander of Iran’s Army, according to the state-run news agency IRNA.

Salehi “said the country will not adopt any irrational move but it is ready to severely react against any threat,” the report added.

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By blogdog, January 4, 2012 at 10:38 am Link to this comment

Wall Street’s desperate addiction to the Petrodollar… stepping back a few years:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread605293/pg1

The Iranians are about to commit an “offense” far greater than Saddam
Hussein’s conversion to the euro of Iraq’s oil exports in the fall of 2000.
Numerous articles have revealed Pentagon planning for operations against Iran as
early as 2005. While the publicly stated reasons will be over Iran’s nuclear
ambitions, there are unspoken macroeconomic drivers explaining the Real
Reasons regarding the 2nd stage of petrodollar warfare - Iran’s upcoming euro-
based oil Bourse.

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By heterochromatic, January 4, 2012 at 9:18 am Link to this comment

NZ~~~~Saying that we’re gonna keep the Straits open doesn’t qualify as
warmongering.

As well, it nt the uS economy that raises most of its revenue from higher oil prices.

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By NZDoug, January 4, 2012 at 8:58 am Link to this comment

US warmongering in Gulf of Hormuz has increased the price of oil.
USA/ Israel NO WAR!

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By IMax, January 4, 2012 at 5:40 am Link to this comment

An interesting take from a ‘progressive’ pragmatist.

After America: How does the world look in an age of U.S. decline? Dangerously unstable.
BY ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI | FP JAN/FEB 2012

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By heterochromatic, January 4, 2012 at 2:24 am Link to this comment

dog~~~ teh iranian economy is crashing, with inflation at 20%, and growth at 2%,
and the rial losing value like crazy


http://www.uskowioniran.com/2012/01/rial-loses-7-in-value-in-2-days.html

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By blogdog, January 4, 2012 at 12:47 am Link to this comment

in contrast to certain assertions, and frankly more trustworthy than CNN:

Iran economy strong despite sanctions - 1389/07/04
http://www.zamannews.ir/view.aspx?ID=890704069

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki has played down the impact of
US-engineered sanctions on the country over its nuclear program, insisting on
Iran’s continuous economic growth.

“Despite the global financial crisis, Iran’s economy not only averted a recession,
but continues to maintain a good position by achieving an eye-catching growth
in its stock exchange market and reducing the national unemployment rate,”
Fars news agency quoted Mottaki as saying in a meeting with Foreign Minister
of the Czech Republic Karel Schwarzenberg in New York on Saturday.

He stressed that while Iran manufactured only 10 percent of the equipment
used in its oil and gas industry before the US-led sanctions were imposed, that
figure has now drastically climbed to 70 percents, reflecting the ineffectiveness
of the sanctions.

The Czech minister, for his part, called for the expansion of relations with the
Islamic Republic.

Tehran has vehemently rejected the West’s accusations that it is developing
nuclear weapons, insisting that as a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation
Treaty, it has the right to pursue and utilize many civilian applications of
nuclear technology.

However, bending to extraordinary anti-Iran efforts by the US and its European
allies, the UN Security Council imposed a fourth round of sanctions on Iran in
June which was followed by additional unilateral sanctions by the US and the
EU.

Meanwhile, Mottaki and Secretary General of the Inter-Parliamentary Union
Anders B. Johnsson exchanged views on the latest developments of parliaments
across the world.

The Iranian minister pointed out that all parliaments should exercise equal
rights and called for putting an end to interfering measures by certain countries
in such strategies.

In another meeting between the Iranian foreign minister and his Turkish
counterpart Ahmet Davutoglu, the two sides discussed ways to promote
bilateral, regional and international cooperation.

Mottaki praised growing ties with Ankara in political, economic and cultural
fields and stressed the significance of implementing all agreements already
signed between the two sides.

Davutoglu, for his part, said Iran and Turkey should enhance their cooperation,
particularly in setting up a free trade zones on border regions

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By Rehmat, January 3, 2012 at 6:00 pm Link to this comment

Israeli DEBKAfile, which is linked to Israel military establishment, reported on December 31, 2011 that Iran did prove its point by closing the Strait of Hormuz for five hours without firing a single missile.

“By a media trick, Tehran proved its claim that closing the Strait of Hormuz is “as easy as drinking water”. First thing Saturday morning, Saturday, Dec. 31, Iran’s state agencies “reported” long-range and other missiles had been test-fired as part of its ongoing naval drill around the Strait of Hormuz. Ahead of the test, Tehran closed its territorial waters. For five hours Saturday, not a single warship, merchant vessel or oil tanker ventured into the 30-mile wide Hormuz strait, waiting to hear from Tehran’ that the test was over,” reported DEBKAfile.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2012/01/01/israel-iran-did-close-strait-of-hormuz-for-five-hours/

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By IMax, January 3, 2012 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment

PatrickHenry,

I’m curious. Do you see yourself as liberal, progressive, or concerned with human-rights?  Are you anti-war?

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By PatrickHenry, January 3, 2012 at 4:50 pm Link to this comment

I’m sure if the American People knew how much it was costing them to keep a fleet or two, or three being provocative off the coast of Iran, they would be looking for some new representation.

Not only is it a waste of tax dollars but it is causing tension in the area and speculators are raising the price of oil, almost by design, it sucks if you drive a car.

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By IMax, January 3, 2012 at 4:47 pm Link to this comment

Hetero, - “Imax, they ARE pulling away”

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O.K..

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By berniem, January 3, 2012 at 3:19 pm Link to this comment

I am inclined to believe that, as the world views the US as a loathsome bully who’s insatiable greed bodes ill for everyone lest it is reined in, any situation which draws the “mighty” USofA into further economic and domestic quagmire will be tacitly encouraged. The neocons and their neo-fascist cronies are too committed to total worldwide hegemony at whatever costs to turn away from any confrontation no matter how debilitating. The rest of the world is all too willing to allow this country as much rope as it needs. I wonder who’ll ensure that our nuclear junk doesn’t fall into the wrong hands when we assume the position of third-rate backwater? Don’t think for a minute that the “Fortunate” 500, et al will hang around to bail out the country when it all hits the fan. FREE BRADLEY MANNING!!!!!

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By heterochromatic, January 3, 2012 at 2:52 pm Link to this comment

Mono~~~~ I don’t advocate for unnecessary military conflict, don’t wish for war
with Iran and don’t doubt that Iran’s regime is loathsome and that we’re well-
advised to keep the Straits of Hormuz open should iran decide to close them.

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By heterochromatic, January 3, 2012 at 2:40 pm Link to this comment

Imax, they ARE pulling away… iran has balked at selling their oil and gas at further
discounts and has started canceling their development contracts with both the big
boys because the upfront investment funds haven’t been coming Iran’s way.

China is pulling back because the returns on investment are far better in Africa
and in Central/South America and the likelihood of Iran’s regime’s stability is not
all that great

China is getting oil from Venezuela FAR more cheaply than from Iran.

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By IMax, January 3, 2012 at 2:28 pm Link to this comment

hetero,

I don’t see China pulling away from Iran.  I see both Russia and China taking advantage of the situation and extracting further concessions from Iran.

Where do you see China pulling away from Iran?

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By Monochrome, January 3, 2012 at 1:58 pm Link to this comment
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comments for such posters as ‘heterochromatic,’ “..cabbages and kings and whether Jews have horns and wings,” miss or mislead the significance of continued, and unnecessary military conflict far from home. This poster’s arrogance is typal of the mind-set which killed perhaps one million Iraquis for no reason.

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By John Sullivan, January 3, 2012 at 1:33 pm Link to this comment
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That degenerate militarized theocratic non-democracy is a threat to world peace—and so are the Iranians.

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By heterochromatic, January 3, 2012 at 12:58 pm Link to this comment

The sanctions are hurting iran’s economy and China is pulling away, so iran is
ready for another round of talks with the Europeans where they can discuss
cabbages and kings and whether Jews have horns and wings..

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