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Iran Joins in for Future Talk About Afghanistan

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Posted on Oct 18, 2010
AP / Riccardo De Luca

Making contact: A meeting with special representatives for Afghanistan and Pakistan at Rome’s Villa Madama on Monday.

An Iranian representative is now included in a league of international envoys from the EU, NATO, the U.S. and elsewhere—aka the International Contact Group on Afghanistan—that is engaging in an ongoing conversation about Afghanistan’s future. On Monday, the diplomatic gaggle convened in Rome for a day with an eye on another get-together next month in Lisbon, Portugal.  —KA

BBC:

We recognise that Iran, with its long, almost completely open border with Afghanistan and with a huge drug problem… has a role to play in the peaceful settlement of this situation in Afghanistan,” Richard Holbrooke—the US special representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan—told a news conference.

“So for the United States there is no problem with their presence.”

He said discussions would not be affected by the “bilateral issues” of Iran’s nuclear programme, which Iran says is for purely civilian purposes but the US insists is a cover for creating atomic weapons.

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By Go Right Young Man, October 20, 2010 at 12:49 pm Link to this comment

gerard,

I neglected to include France on the list of those who had opposed direct negotiations with Iran concerning Afghanistan for nearly the last decade. 

This latest “news” of Iran’s inclusion is but a very public acknowledgment, I believe, intended to exhibit public pressure.

The point is, discussions with Iran in regards to Afghanistan have been steadily moving/changing/progressing since late 2001. - When the Head of the Afghan Desk at the State Dept. meets with Iranian officials in Brussels (4 times between 2002 - 07) it’s a fair bet Afghanistan is a leading topic. - While the State Dept. reports official travel it rarely makes the nightly news or New York Times.

Because it’s not “in the news” doesn’t mean it’s not happening.  And this type of public negotiation with Iran over Afghanistan is not the first.  It is only the first that you’ve recently become aware of during the Obama administration. 

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This “News” we have both recently seen is not a revelation.  It’s one of many “public diplomatic encounters” with Iran.  I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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By Go Right Young Man, October 20, 2010 at 3:08 am Link to this comment

gerard,

The United States has three (3) times attempted to engage and include Iran in negotiations regarding Afghanistan.  Unfortunately Russia, Italy and the Karzai governments have resisted the idea.  The OIC too has counseled against including Tehran.

My sincerest hope is that one day we can have a discussion on global affairs without your entire focus on the United States.

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By rico, suave, October 19, 2010 at 2:51 pm Link to this comment

In any previous decade, this would not be news. Of course Iran has a huge interest in what happens to Afghanistan. I just hope the Sunni/Shiite bullshit doesn’t ruin the opportunities for some final peace. It’s obvious that it’s the two enemy little dogs joining up against the big dog, but so be it. We need to stop the killing.

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By gerard, October 19, 2010 at 8:28 am Link to this comment

GRYM: Sorry, my statement was far from clear. It
just struck me as something of a good sign that Iran was included.  After all, we have recently been talking carelessly about bombing Iran so I was surprised to see them included in talks about how to make peace with Afghanistan.

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By Go Right Young Man, October 19, 2010 at 3:07 am Link to this comment

gerard, - “This represents something like a “first” in international efforts—having various nations with differeint concerns come together to try to iron out the complications of a possible agreement to end a war and perhaps prevent other wars.”

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This is something like a first?  This gathering is but one of hundreds of like in the past decade alone.

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By gerard, October 18, 2010 at 11:47 am Link to this comment

This represents something like a “first” in international efforts—having various nations with differeint concerns come together to try to iron out the complications of a possible agreement to end a war and perhaps prevent other wars.

If the minds of most—or even some—of the participants are at least halfway open, a lot will be learned by all, to say the least.  At the most, a precedent may be set for future negotiations and conciliations where vastly different interests are at stake.  Common interests may be discovered and explored.  Sounds better than continued ignorance confounded by continuing war.

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