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Posted on May 7, 2011
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Two Muslim religious leaders said a Delta pilot refused to take off from Memphis, Tenn., to Charlotte, N.C., with them on board, removing the traditionally dressed men as they tried to get to a conference addressing prejudice against Muslims. Both men, Masudur Rahman and Mohamed Zaghloul, are foreign-born and said they had no issue with normal screening processes. However, the plane was returned to the gate after it had begun taxiing and the imams were asked to get off despite the objections of some of the crew and other passengers. —KDG

WCNC

Back in Charlotte, Rahman, a professor at University of Memphis, compared the incident to the story of Rosa Parks.

“That history I found today in that plane, and it shouldn’t happen with any other person,” he said.

Charlotte-based attorney Mo Idlibi, who accompanied the men once they arrived in Charlotte, said his clients would like to see more training for pilots about this sensitive issue. Idlibi continues to investigate the option of a lawsuit.

Idlibi said there is precedent on this issue. U.S. Airways recently settled a lawsuit filed by six imams who were removed from a plane in Minneapolis in 2006. Those men had been traveling to the North American Imam Federation conference as well.

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By Lew Ciefer, May 10, 2011 at 1:14 pm Link to this comment

@ ardee, May 10 at 2:49:

Wow ardee ... I just asked if you were one of those 9/11 Truthers. Did you hear about the Navy authorizing same sex marriage? In the Navy… dah dah dah dah… how does that Village People song go? Oh well…

On a more serious note ... have you noticed that you immediately resort to ad hominem attacks with anyone who has an opinion different from your dribble yours? Some—not me of course because I have the utmost respect for your fatuity opinion—probably view that as not only standard MO for evil and satanic commie and socialist losers but also evidence of a clueless screwball who hasn’t the least bit of ability to construct and present a viable argument and, alas, a product of public school. I reiterate that I am not such a person.

How can asking you your religious affiliation—in order to know rather than guess—be an attempt at stupidity? Isn’t it best to ask and know rather than to guess? I.e. you continue to make reference to some unknown other. You even stated that this individual is my “brother worm.” Has it even occurred to you that I might not have any idea as to what the hell you’re talking about? You keep hurling what you believe to be insults and offensives at me while I sit here and laugh wondering if your mommy was out and forgot to tell the babysitter to give you your mental medication. Your antics cause one to infer that you’re such an emotional basket case that I’m often tempted to make statements that I know will tweak your sorry ass just to see you rant and rave. It’s free entertainment and proof positive of just how much groupthink and the dumbing-down of the masses has progressed.

I never posted off-topic ardee. The topic here is about that captain refusing to fly with two passengers—at a time of heightened security—dressed in antiquated garb often used by Islamic terrorists. I stated my opinion and hope to read of more incidents like this one in the future. I hope the pressure mounts so heavily on the Muslim community that they finally get off their asses and actually rid themselves and us of the murderers in their midst or sink into oblivion and stop traveling on all public transportation. And I don’t give a rat’s ass whether you like it or not.

Did you hear that Senator Charles “Chuckie” Schumer is now calling for an Amtrak “no ride” list? Who do you think that Jewish Senator is going to want on that list? All those “Katherine the Irish grandmothers” or perhaps Sheik Ali Baba Babalouie… hummmmm? It’s starting to look like the West Bank in New York, huh? Isn’t the mayor Jewish also?

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By Leefeller, May 10, 2011 at 7:09 am Link to this comment

Ardee, fyi your avatar turned into dutubtese, not your motercycle, so I see (the clown with the red hat)? Yesterday the top of my computer had a large morphed happy face at the top of the TD posts. 

Not only is the USA a bit unstable and even unbalanced, I suspect TD is being punked after receiving the Wedgie award similar as it was prior to receiving the wedgie!

I believe religion should be like sexual proclivities, kept to ones self! In a sense religion is sort of like a sexual proclivity and I don’t care nor want to see people wearing their personal fetches on the street or boarding a plane! If I was one of those Tea Bag majorities I would make a law saying so, for me it is like holding a sign in me face telling me I should and could be special.

It seems a few special people seem to have found offense in my use of the word “costume”,... so I have decided to provide an option for those single word fanciers, so how about going back and changing the word to…  “regalia”?

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By ardee, May 10, 2011 at 2:49 am Link to this comment

Lew Ciefer, May 9 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment

Why, because YOU say so….Cut and paste one single comment from me that shows support for that which you claim I have shown, just one you oaf.

Obfuscation must necessarily be your stock in trade, like your alter ego, grimm who also distorts and brags about that which doesnt exist outside his ( and your) fantasy political world.

As far as my “religious affiliation” ,another attempt by you at stupidity, which you are so very good at proving yourself.!

I, as should be any who respect the scientific method, an an agnostic. You, on the other hand , are a devoted follower of lying. You and your brother worm both fail to see how each and every post of you two jackals sink you both further into the mud.

Please do not stop as you bring greater and greater discredit to your positions with each and every effort. I responded, in my last post, to a political position you two imbeciles took. You both, in response, posted juvenile and off topic bullshit, just as you always do.

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By Spooky-43, May 10, 2011 at 2:22 am Link to this comment

Great post Lew Ciefer.

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By Lew Ciefer, May 9, 2011 at 1:29 pm Link to this comment

@ ardee, May 8 at 7:16 pm:

Oh noooooo! Don’t tell me, let me guess. You’re one of “those” that believe the Empire attacked itself on 9/11! Aren’t you guys called 9/11 Truthers or Stark Raving Mad Hatters? Damn I think I finally met a 9/11 Truther! I knew there was something special about you ... you’re as sharp as a marble!

Let’s see ... how does it go? The Empire, wanting to attack Iraq, secretly plans an audacious attack on two major buildings in New York killing close to 3,000 innocent citizens and blaming it all on innocent Muslims herding goats next to their tribal lands stolen by evil oil companies. “They” also fire a missile at the Pentagon then had secret agents spread aircraft parts around to make it look like another airliner. The passengers on the airliners are all in secret concentration camps or have been snuffed out. The Empire also blew up a third building—the infamous building 7—because the CIA had an office there. As icing on the cake the military shot down another airliner filled with U.S. citizens, tells the public that “heroes” sacrificed their lives attacking the hijackers and make up a war cry. All this and still the Empire forgets to plant the evidence that would “prove” that Iraq was involved in the 9/11 attacks. Opps! What an oversight!

Where are the Joose and the Reptiles in your version ardee? You’ve got to have reptilians and hooked-nosed Joose, preferably bankers, somewhere in the fantasy or the kids won’t be scared at night when daddy tells a bedtime story.

For curiosity’s sake ... just what is your religious affiliation or beliefs? I’m a Christian/Muslim non-believer. That’s like Jewish atheist or agnostic only it’s not.

You cause me to recall the words of Yoda: “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.”

“But as time has passed I have been obliged to recognize a harsh truth: that the mass of so-called ordinary Muslims seems to have bought into the paranoid fantasies of the extremists and seems to spend more of its energy in mobilizing against cartoonists, novelists, or the Pope than in condemning, disenfranchising, and expelling the fascistic murderers in their midst. If this silent majority allows a war to be waged in its name, then it does, finally, become complicit in that war.” -Salmon Rushdie

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By Leefeller, May 9, 2011 at 11:00 am Link to this comment

It is important for others to see as I do, think as I do and dress as I do,... my xenophobia demands it be so!

If Truth Dig posters are any indication of what the left is comprised of, me hopes are dashed upon the rocks of change. The little change in me pockets that is.

kerryrose, must you be a Bush fan, for it sounds as if you are saying ....“you are with us, or you are against us!”
Well, Kr. you seen to make your own rules with what appears to be with a little fretboarding. Do you have eyes and an mind which works with some degree of competence, or must I be forced to agree with Lew? 

See, kerryrose, I am far left of Lew, but I respect his ability to be comprehensive and sometimes when he says all you lefties, his stereotypes show a bit of reason, for many of the commenter’s on TD, display an incompetence which demands to justify Lew’s stereotyping.

But Lew,... not all as in everything. I find righty tighty absolutisms appalling, just as I find the lefts certainty, but not all left or right people are the same! I suspect you know the differences can be hardly discernible in left and right extremes. The right does seem to have a much better handle on goose stepping then the bickering left. Possibly because they are expert in taking the money and hiding it?

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By Jim8808, May 9, 2011 at 8:22 am Link to this comment
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Both men had passed multiple security checks prior to boarding the plane. 

Given this fact, it was unconscionable that they were removed from the flight.

I hope they sue the pants off Delta.

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By Go Right Young Man, May 8, 2011 at 8:51 pm Link to this comment

Manchild,

That mirror I keep holding before your face is unpleasant, yes?  Seeing for yourself what others see is often one of the more painful experiences a person will endure.

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By THX 1133 is not in the movie..., May 8, 2011 at 7:44 pm Link to this comment

By ardee, May 8 at 7:16 pm
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Valiant effort; but alas, a waste of valuable energy.
You know the old saw; none so blind as those who won’t
see…
Cheers.

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By ardee, May 8, 2011 at 7:16 pm Link to this comment

Pilots, like ship captains, are responsible for all passengers and cargo and not only have the right but also the duty to exercise whatever measures they feel necessary to ensure passenger safety. And whether you and your ilk like it or not, at this time of heightened security, due to fears of Islamic fundamentalist reaction to the Empire’s capping of Osama’s ass that pilot exercised a reasonable precaution. I hope more follow his example.

Yet again Lucifer unknowingly posts to his own detriment, proving , ad infinitum, his lack of a clue. By all means continue to argue for a lawless state and vigilantism, say it again and again in fact, thus leaving no doubt what a buffoon you are.

The words of our resident fairy tale spinner, brother grimm have now led to made up headlines. What ,I wonder can be next, false affidavits, incorrect and imaginary quotes, or just the further spinning of an obviously deranged mind.

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By Go Right Young Man, May 8, 2011 at 3:52 pm Link to this comment

Liberal Americans Refuse To Defend Christians
Progressives Go Nuts Defending Muslim Traditions On Airlines.

CAIRO (AP) — Muslim mobs set two Cairo churches on fire overnight during sectarian clashes that left 12 dead and more than 200 injured. The deepening religious violence in military-ruled Egypt exacerbated an already chaotic and lawless transition to democracy.

Mobs of Muslims attacked the St. Menas church in the Cairo slum of Imbaba late Saturday following rumors that a Christian woman married to a Muslim man had been abducted. Local residents said a separate mob of youths armed with knives and machetes attacked the Virgin Mary church several blocks away with firebombs.

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By Lew Ciefer, May 8, 2011 at 2:03 pm Link to this comment

@ All the clueless ones…

...attempting to compare this incident to actions by Germans in Nazi Germany ... give it a rest!

Where in the U.S. are Muslims having their property confiscated, being herded into trucks and taken to concentration camps and gassed? Where are they prohibited from entering restaurants or wearing their silly dress or are not permitted to walk on sidewalks and use public parks and benches? Where are they being forced, by law, to don special patches of clothing to easily identify them as Muslim? Did Jews in Nazi Germany receive all the special protection against discrimination that Muslims in America receive? HELL NO!

Where were all of you when all the jokes about the Pope and that ridiculous dress and hats he wears were being passed around? Didn’t Colbert do a hit job on the Pope and his dress? Why weren’t you offended then?

Who hasn’t snickered, laughed out loud, or thought “how stupid” at the sight of Christian believers in 19th century garb complete with horse and buggies outfitted with turn signals or a young Pentecostal woman sweating her tush off at the beach on a hot summer afternoon because she’s clothed in a long-sleeved dress that reaches well below her knees? Tell me that women dressed in a black tent with only a slit, to facilitate sight, on a 90 degree day doesn’t make you wonder just how frigging ignorant human beings can get. Modesty is one thing, The Stupid is another.

I laugh at all those youngsters with their pants hanging below their fat ugly butts displaying their drawers—especially white boys! And how many find that mode of dress offensive? A good many! My generation was laughed at and ridiculed for long hair and also our choice of clothing ... many of us, just for having long hair, were considered queer by the very fathers whose daughters we were banging cross-eyed. And we didn’t pose a threat to life like many of the adherents of Islam do today.

“Political correctness is tyranny with manners.”—Charlton Heston

We are in a time of heightened alert for possible Islamic fundamentalist terrorist retaliation for the Empire having capped Osama’s ass. The pilot exercised his duty to best ensure a safe flight. If Muslims don’t like being singled out they can help by actually doing something themselves about the religious loons in their midst instead of cowardly sitting back and letting the rest of the world do what they are, apparently, too afraid or unwilling to do. One great starting point would be to throw all those crazy clerics out on their sorry asses and adopt a new bunch of charlatans and mountebanks like those Christian televangelists here in the West. Then they’d have their own private jets and could wear any stupid garb they desired without any hassle.

These incidents, like the creation of the TSA, are the direct results of Islamic fundamentalist terror perpetrated upon the civilized world. Right or wrong, the government and certain functionaries, like that pilot, in order to protect us from terrorists, treat us like terrorists. You can thank Islamic terrorists for that lost of liberty which we will never recuperate without bloodshed!

You people choke on a gnat while swallowing a camel.

“Revealed religion is still fighting hard for life in the world, but it is doomed. The day can’t be far off when all men pretending to be civilized will look back upon it as they now look back upon witchcraft, human sacrifice and cannibalism.” -H.L. Mencken

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By Lew Ciefer, May 8, 2011 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment

@ ardee, May 8 at 6:22

Lew Ciefer, May 7 at 6:11 pm
I am happy you are offended. You are also offensive.

Isn’t a liberal society great Ardee? In a liberal society you can be glad that I’m offended and you can—in your profound level of absolute ignorance—find me offensive and no one tries to stone you or separate your head from your shoulders. Ain’t that great?

“A shoe that fits one person pinches another; there is no recipe for living that suits all cases.”—Carl Gustav Jung (1875-1961), “Modern Man in Search of a Soul”

You’d be well advised to adjust to reality Ardee. Islam, as Judaism and Christianity, WILL morph into a more civilized and more palatable religion or Islam WILL be reduced to rubble. It’s simply a question of time.

Pilots, like ship captains, are responsible for all passengers and cargo and not only have the right but also the duty to exercise whatever measures they feel necessary to ensure passenger safety. And whether you and your ilk like it or not, at this time of heightened security, due to fears of Islamic fundamentalist reaction to the Empire’s capping of Osama’s ass that pilot exercised a reasonable precaution. I hope more follow his example.

I can imagine how tight this ties your drawers into a knot and I’m laughing my ass off thinking about it!

“There is a sense of Greek tragedy, with its dialectic of hubris and nemesis, to what has been unfolding in the Islamic world. If Muslim extremists continue to use terror against the West, their very success will destroy them. If they succeed in terrorizing the West, they will discover that they have in fact only ended by brutalizing it. And if subjected to enough stress, the liberal system will be set aside and the Hobbesian world will return, and with its return, the Islamic world will be crushed. Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad. The only way to avoid this horrendous end is to bring the Islamic world back to sanity sooner rather than later.”—Lee Harris, “Civilization and its Enemies”

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By redipen, May 8, 2011 at 10:16 am Link to this comment
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however/whatever brought about this essentially-non-event incident… result is
the same - psychological provocation/indoctrination - ‘madmen’ tactics - keep
your ‘product’ at ‘top of mind’ - product is nothing less than ‘terrorism’ - for sure,
the violence is real - what’s unclear is its true source - recommendation: look to
Langley, Vauxhall Cross and Tele Viv… forget the mythical caves of Afghanistan
and Yemen

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By kerryrose, May 8, 2011 at 10:03 am Link to this comment

Leefeller

How is calling the traditional dress of non-Western people ‘costume’ comprehending anything?  How is asking non-Westerners to conform to Western standards of dress in order to make us less afraid the basis for confirmation of anything?

How is considering someone a left-wing nut because they find ‘costumes’ a term of ignorance, and a lack of respect for other cultures.

Comprehension is learning to see the forces that control your fears and bigotry.

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By truedigger3, May 8, 2011 at 9:59 am Link to this comment

Re: By Spooky-43, May 8 at 4:42 am

What is so threatening or provocative in a religious attire similar to many other religious attires.
You seem to encourage and condone prejudice and stereotyping.
There are 1.3 billion Muslims in this world. Do you want to stereotype them all because of the actions of few ignorant and misguided Muslims??!!.
Are all Irish suspect because of the IRA ?? Terrorism has a long history in this world and is not an exclusiv Muslim phenomenon!
If a Muslim has a terroristic intentions, he would have went to great length to dress normal and blend in. This is simple and obvious common sense.
You were not satiring, so please stop your crude attempts at bullshitting and obfuscation.

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By TDoff, May 8, 2011 at 9:27 am Link to this comment

This is blatant religious discrimination.

What if two leaders of the Hooter’s Naked Waitress Church of Jesus had boarded the flight, sans costumes, headed for Charlotte and the 24/7/365 religious festivals the city is noted for? Carrying picket signs that said ‘Hang in there, Jesus, we’re a’comin’‘?

Would they have been ‘booted off’ the flight? Or forced to share the pilot’s and co-pilot’s seats in the cockpit?

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By Leefeller, May 8, 2011 at 9:13 am Link to this comment

Using the word “Costume” seems to have been a major sticking point in a few craws,... so garb or uniform, or outfit but not costume is more acceptable?

So this is sounding like the National Review by “all you” left wing nut jobs and right wing bigots.  Yes all of everything once again, in the black and white world of simpletons.

May I suggest a bit more focus on comprehension and actually discussion and less on emotions and personal fetishism?

Spooky, I do not believe I said we are a fascist country, I have been saying we seem to be emulating and going bit by bit in the direction of becoming a fascist county.

Our rights our liberties and freedoms have slowly been very slowly eroded and decimated, if one needs elaborations, I would be happy to comply with an explanatory synopsis if asked and one even without being asked.

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By Go Right Young Man, May 8, 2011 at 8:44 am Link to this comment

It may have proved useful if everyone here had waited until after more information on this incident was made available before forming such strong opinions.

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By kerryrose, May 8, 2011 at 8:14 am Link to this comment

Leefeller

If you substitute ‘costume’ for anything that is not jeans and motorcycle boots, or any other innocuous American dress, then it is likely that the terrorists were indeed wearing ‘costumes.’

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By Leefeller, May 8, 2011 at 7:46 am Link to this comment

By the way, I doubt very much if the people who preformed the hideous act of 911 wore a costume or a ninja outfit, maybe others know otherwise?

The fine line between a dictatorship and fascist led country has many fine points, off the top of me head, the fascist has mostly a larger number of acceptance and support by some or many of the people. I believe the dictator usually keeps his power closer to his chest does not share it with others, depending on the dictator?

Note; Fascist countries were not only (Germany), Mussolinis (Italy),... but also included Franco’s (Spain), Suharto’s (Indonesia), and Pinochet’s (Chile).

“3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause “
by Dr. Laurence Britt
“The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.”

In order to eliminate people getting booted off airplanes, two options have been brought to my attention; one option would be to issue everyone boarding a gun. (I remember Archie Bunker said this).... A second option would be;  people only fly if they wore their birthday suits and then they could get rid of those stupid Xray machines?...for the those modest folks and first class they could issue hospital gowns.  Both options have some merit, seem the second option may be a bit chilly though!

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By kerryrose, May 8, 2011 at 7:30 am Link to this comment

Spooky Dave

No

Your rationalization is for people to dress so those ‘American terror-struck and fearful’ people would be mollified.  It has nothing to do with tolerance. You are narrow minded enough to believe that innocuous dress is American dress.

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By kerryrose, May 8 at 5:19 am Link to this comment

“That is the longest winded rationalization for intolerance that I have ever read”.
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Then you missed my long-winded point.  It was actually a long-winded call for more tolerance of the thoughts and feelings of those around you, even if it means giving up your personal rights at times.

Maybe this concept is unheard of amongst the left.

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By ardee, May 8, 2011 at 6:22 am Link to this comment

Lew Ciefer, May 7 at 6:11 pm

I am happy you are offended. You are also offensive.

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By GoyToy, May 8, 2011 at 5:42 am Link to this comment

Land of the Free? Perhaps—but it was probably some time ago.

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By kerryrose, May 8, 2011 at 5:19 am Link to this comment

Spooky 43

That is the longest winded rationalization for intolerance that I have ever read.

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By Spooky-43, May 8, 2011 at 4:42 am Link to this comment

Truedigger3, you didn’t perceive a little tongue in cheek on my part, and for that I am sorry.  You lefties take yourselves far too serious at times, and the truth is, tongue and cheek or not, pay attention to my last sentence.  “The wise man learns not to grind himself into the face of the public” and I will add here, especially for the sake of his personal rights.

I have traveled the world for purposes which I am not going to mention, and in all cases, when traveling, I never wore any formal attire or work clothes, or anything which would be unsettling, like a shoulder holster, unless well-concealed.  In many parts of the world where Americans were not well liked, I did everything I could to not look like an American, especially a tourist.  And I never had any problems.

Although Leefeller says the US is a fascist country, my reference to Nazi Germany in the 30’s did not intend to insinuate the US was a bunch of fascist Nazis, but to say that Jews were not well-liked and blamed for the problems facing Germany in that period.  That sentiment is, (hopefully to a lesser extent) present in America today regarding some of the Muslim faith.  And they will be forever linked to airline travel, rightly or wrongly. 

When traveling, especially in 2011, all reasonable people attempt to not stand out in any way which might cause any disturbance or unsettling.  Is this not common sense?

Juan Williams was fired from NPR, that beacon of liberal thinking, for saying he would be nervous if Muslims boarded his plane with full Muslim garb.  Juan is one of the most liberal journalists out there, and has a right to state that opinion, yet he was fired for it.  If Juan felt that way, is it not possible that there may be many who feel that way, rightly or wrongly? 

And where the Imam has a right to wear whatever he wants, is it not more respectful to think of others and attempt not to “grind your rights into the face of the public”?  What would be the purpose of exercising rights which may make others extremely uncomfortable?  Especially those who may already be uncomfortable with the thought of flying.

Rights are certainly rights, but again, wise men also understand prudence, and the ones who do not exercise it become questionable for that as well as anything else which makes people uncomfortable.  Their lack of concern for the feelings of fellow passengers is more of a concern to me than their rights to wear that desert “costume” as Leefeller calls it.

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By kerryrose, May 8, 2011 at 3:48 am Link to this comment

For a Progressive News Site the comments on this blog are eyeopening.  I feel like I am reading coments on the National Review.  Islamofobia, militant patriotism, intolerance.

Wow.  You’re coming out of the woodwork.

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By truedigger3, May 8, 2011 at 3:00 am Link to this comment

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Spooky-43 wrote:
“Them imams, if they travel alot, they should get travel savvy.  When in the US, act like you are not an imam out in public, and you get along a lot better. 

I mean, if you were a Jew in 1930’s Germany, you didn’t advertise it did you?  Some say the US is getting as bad as 1930’s Germany, so I say, take that into consideration.”
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But we are not living in Nazi Germany, I hope.
Why they have to deny themselves, like there is something wrong with them??
Many politicians and opportunist “pundits” are stoking the fire of fear and bigotry for their own personal gains.
By the way, I am 1000% an atheist.

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By truedigger3, May 8, 2011 at 2:47 am Link to this comment

To the people who made “wise ass” comments or tried to be funny:

Do you expell couple of Catholic priests from a plane because they are dressed in the priesthood attire??.
The Muslim attire for their clergy is almost similar to the catholic attire with different colour and different head-dress. Nothing provacative or menacing about it??!! Didn’t they pass airport security??
Lest anyone forgets, this is USA, where freedom of religion is one of the fundemental pillars of our society and constitution.

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By Spooky-43, May 8, 2011 at 2:42 am Link to this comment

My younger brother got laid off a while back and was running short of cash.  I told him he should dress up like an extremist imam and then sue the airline when he was booted off the plane.  The jerk wore his blue jeans and cowboy boots underneath and his west-Texas accent didn’t fool anyone apparently.  He got right on without so much as a pat down. 

Them imams, if they travel alot, they should get travel savvy.  When in the US, act like you are not an imam out in public, and you get along a lot better. 

I mean, if you were a Jew in 1930’s Germany, you didn’t advertise it did you?  Some say the US is getting as bad as 1930’s Germany, so I say, take that into consideration. 

Yeah, the world is not a perfect place.  Imams should understand that better than anyone.  Rights are rights absolutely, but the wise man learns not to grind himself into the face of the public, unless that is what he intends to do.

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By redipen, May 8, 2011 at 12:10 am Link to this comment
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mrfreeze writes: “the terrorists won the battle years ago when we have forced
ourselves to spend 3.5 hours to get to a plane that flies for 1.5 hours just to turn
around and do it again on the way home. “

right, but to be clear, those conceptualizing the mission, and authoring the terror,
are based in Langley, Vauxhall Cross and Tele Viv, not in the mountain caves of
Afghanistan and Yemen

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By NZDoug, May 8, 2011 at 12:04 am Link to this comment

Shouldnt those guys be on camels?
Can you trust those guys in airplanes?
Dont they have a magic carpet or something?

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By kerryrose, May 7 at 3:53 pm
Leefeller

Costumes?  Are you serious?
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Got to second that one. Huh?

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By diamond, May 7, 2011 at 8:52 pm Link to this comment

“Hell, I bet Rico would have even kicked Rosa Parks off his plane.”

Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, John Lennon, Cat Stevens…the list is endless. This kind of moronic behaviour is to be expected in the madness of the times we’re living through. To follow this through to its logical conclusion the Queen should not be allowed to fly wearing one of her trusty headscarves. Indian women should not be allowed to wear saris and Sikhs should not be allowed to wear turbans, and Texans should never be allowed to board wearing those enormous hats. It’s not national security it’s national psychosis.

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By Lew Ciefer, May 7, 2011 at 6:11 pm Link to this comment

Great! I feel very offended, insulted and I demand an apology from those men for dressing in that garb. And I demand an apology for their claim that this was due to a misunderstanding of Islam ... bullshit ... the world understands Islam very well.

If Muslims don’t like being treated like this I would suggest that they grow a pair and start dealing with the fanatics in their midst instead of depending on others to do the manly work for them.

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By ardee, May 7, 2011 at 5:11 pm Link to this comment

Just another example of how far from the path our nation has strayed. We are a beaten people, make no mistake abut it. We are defeated by our own propaganda into thinking democracy, fairness and justice are sometimes things, revocable at a whim.

That So.Texas Guy notes the pilot might have been Rico is hilarious. That Leefeller strays from the path he usually treads in calling the garb these clerics wore as “costumes” is unfortunate.

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By mrfreeze, May 7, 2011 at 4:29 pm Link to this comment

NO ONE…...let me repeat….NO ONE should expect any form of privacy, equality, respect, civil rights, protection or common courtesy at any zones having to do with airlines or airports.

Just this week I was flying and my carry-on was searched whilst the elderly man behind me in line was subjected to a “palm brushing” with those disc-shaped swabs to see if he had “bomb residue” on his hands. 1/2 hour later, I was stopped at the entrance to the plane ramp (right past the check-in counter) and I was made to open my half-drunk water bottle (purchased in a terminal shop by the way)and it was “tested” for something or other….it took two TSA agents to do this.

Oh, by the way, I’m white.

My philosophy these days is that the terrorists won the battle years ago when we have forced ourselves to spend 3.5 hours to get to a plane that flies for 1.5 hours just to turn around and do it again on the way home. And, don’t give me that “we’re safer now” bullshit.

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By kerryrose, May 7, 2011 at 3:53 pm Link to this comment

Leefeller

Costumes?  Are you serious?

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By Leefeller, May 7, 2011 at 3:29 pm Link to this comment

Hell, I bet Rico would have even kicked Rosa Parks off his plane.

Now if the KKK in full garbed came on the plane, that would have been another story.

Comparing ones self to Rosa Parks seems a bit pretentious and even obnoxious. People should not wear costumes in public anyway, that should include Freddy Kruger, the Pope or Mormons.

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By scallywag, May 7, 2011 at 1:43 pm Link to this comment
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Isn’t it good to know that a pilot can have a final say as to whether you get on his
plane or not, give or take the color of your jacket or racial profiling that inspires
him.

http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2011/05/delta-airlines-pilot-forces-two-
religious-leaders-off-the-plane-before-taking-off/

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By thethirdman, May 7, 2011 at 12:17 pm Link to this comment

hahaha SoTexGuy, that made my day.  Thank you!

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By SoTexGuy, May 7, 2011 at 12:14 pm Link to this comment

The pilot was named Rico..

smile

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By TDoff, May 7, 2011 at 12:05 pm Link to this comment

What are these chaps bitchin’ about? This little incident sure gives them a great story to tell at their conference about addressing prejudice against Muslims. If they ever get there.
It will be interesting to hear their experiences hitchhiking across the US dressed in full traditional Muslim garb.

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By thethirdman, May 7, 2011 at 11:50 am Link to this comment

This incident could be compared to the story of Rosa Parks if black women in the
south had recently hijacked buses and drove them into buildings.

Were these guys a threat? No way, but lets try to keep our comparisons semi-
cogent.

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