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Posted on Jul 28, 2010
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We started calling it “climate change” because it’s not all about getting warmer, but when the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s are each, in turn, declared the hottest decade on record, it’s safe to say things are heating up. According to the annual State of the Climate report, the evidence is “undeniable.”

Ha! That’s what they said about evolution. And gravity.  —PZS

AP via Google:

“A comprehensive review of key climate indicators confirms the world is warming and the past decade was the warmest on record,” the annual State of the Climate report declares.

Compiled by more than 300 scientists from 48 countries, the report said its analysis of 10 indicators that are “clearly and directly related to surface temperatures, all tell the same story: Global warming is undeniable.”

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By Don Stivers, July 30, 2010 at 9:19 am Link to this comment

And our coal fields.  Remnants of vast forests.  Must have been hotter than heck during those times.  Those trees took a lot of CO2 out of the atmosphere.  Must have cooled down after that?  Of course we are mining that coal and releasing the trapped CO2 back into the atmosphere.  We and the Chinese have the largest coal reserves in the world with 100’s of years worth left in the ground.  It is going to be REAL HOT. 

In 1988 our area in California had a record snow fall. In fact just about all of the Sierra Nevada had a record snow fall.  One of the hottest decades.  As I sat on my horse contemplating going through a massive snow field late in August with my wife and children I thought to myself “Warmer weather would evaporate more moisture from the oceans and bring more snow to the mountains.”  This year, 2010, had up to 200% of normal snow dropped in the mountains.  It was a late season to start going into the high country of the Sierra Nevada Mountains.  But our polar ice caps are shrinking.  And when a person thinks of the mass of the ice in Antarctica (miles thick), it would take a looooong time for the change of temperature of 1 degree a year to effect the ice to the depths where they become weak and start breaking up as they are doing now.  So, did the process begin loooong ago?  And is it continuing?

I just think we ought to contemplate the growth of our and the world’s population.  And figure out how to reduce the numbers (only need two babies per couple to reduce the population).  Happiness in not having a light switch in every room or a flushing toilet, or all of the material things us Americans think we need.  Good health from organic foods, clean water, etc. is what happiness can bring. 

We have a friend who is a missionary in a 3rd world country and has lived there for almost 20 years.  One thing I always notice in the photos she sends back to the States are the smiling faces of the people living in tar paper shacks and dirt floors.  The number one thing this woman presses for is good hygiene.  Oral hygiene.  Clean drinking water.  Good sewage practices.  After that, it is very little material things. 

And, yes, I am a consumer.  I love airplanes, rockets, space program, boats, animal pack trips on horses, the best tools, the best instruments, but I do remember my father and his crew building homes with well sharpened hand saws and hammers.  And they were very well built homes.  And when drafting (map drawing) was done by hand instead of computer.

And I do my best to buy American.  It is agony trying to find ANYTHING made in America.  And I have ALWAYS bought American automobiles.  For all those people who wear American flags on their lapels and drive cars built overseas and shipped to the United States and bitch about the workers in American factories that want to make a decent living.  Can’t buy anything if we all make minimum wage.  And then there would be no jobs available for even the minimum wage workers.  And I am self employed and pay my workers as much as I make and pay for all of their health insurance and they make me happy and they work hard. And so can others if they want to be fair.

bla, bla, bla….

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By ofersince72, July 30, 2010 at 2:25 am Link to this comment

John Hamakers book Survival of Civilization
was in response to the lack of concern by government
officials of the C02 problem in the 70s &  80s.

Here is John’s preface….to his book 1982

  On July 4, 1776, fifty-five representatives of the
people of the thirteen colonies dedicated “our lives,
our fortunes, and our sacred honor” to the purposes
stated in the Declaration of Independence.  The problem
in 1776 was political freedom; the problem today is far
greater—the very survival of civilization.  Yet it is
doubtful if there is on legislator in the entire Congress
of the caliber of the men who led the revolution.
Congresmen, in their compulsion to do what they have to
do to get re-elected, continue to serve the interests
of the proprietors of an economic system which has
ruined the land, impoverished the people and bankrupted
the government.  Meanwhile, the underlying causes of
these problems are ignored as we move from crisis to
crisis.”

Part of John’s preface….....1982
He was a graduate of Perdue University
and an officer (and gentleman) in the U.S. armed forces.

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By ofersince72, July 30, 2010 at 2:14 am Link to this comment

Man, all those CAPS makes a hard read….

Yes indeed,  glaciers retreated about 12k years ago.

We know four of these cycles, and they have come it what
seems to be a cycle… The last four, about 90k years
of glacial advancement, and about 10k to 15k of retreat.

We also know that the C02 levels seemed to have risen
just prior to each advancement.  There are only theories
why, do direct evidence, however it seems that the C02
supplies the massive amount of energy needed to change
cycles.  By drilling into the ice cores it has been found
that the C02 levels never came near todays C02ppm levels.

  The cycle is not theory, reasons for the cycles are.
One theory is..
It is plant life, mostly in the form of temperate and
tropical forest that regulates Oxygen and C02. And, that
after many, many years the soils become depleted of
minerals.  Plant life starts to die off. C02 levels rise,
creating greenhouse gases (this is not a new term, but
coined over a century ago) trapping heat.(This is a very
over simplified explanation of this theory since the
tectonic plates also figure in to this theory).
From there it is easy to figure out.
Melting H20 +  rising temp = evaporation (massive)
evaporation = clouds
clouds = Albedo
So it is thought that the C02 supplies the massive energy
needed to bring the change.
during this period of glacial advancement, rock is ground
to dust.  Due to shifts of pressure on the tectonic
plates, very high amount of volcanic , and earthquake
activity, Storms with winds at 200mph more common than
not.
So slowly the soils get remineralized.
Slowly plant life strives.
Slowly the cycle changes.
Just one theory.
“Glaciation is an acceleration of the normal process
of using evaporated water to carry excessive heat energy
from warm zones to cold zones.  The greenhouse effect of an increase in atmospheric C02 is to increase cloud cover
over polar latitudes.  The clouds have a cooling effect
as well as providing the snow for glaciation. The energy
dissipated in arctic space. Glaciation occurs whenever the
soil minerals left by the last glacial period are used up
and the plant life can no longer regulate the C02
by growing faster in response to an increase in C02 in
the air.  Forests are the major factor in C02 control.”

“Temperate zone forests and crops will be destroyed
by disease,, insects, drought, wind, and fire.
50 to 100 mph winds of 1980, will increase to 100 mph
and up.
For these and other reasons agriculture and industry
will be so crippled that the effect of man on the C02
curve will nullified and the rise in C02 will take place as a result of uncontrolled forest fires.”
From….....
Survival of Civilization
Three Problems Threatening Our Existence..
Carbon Dioxide
Investment Money
Population         by John Hamaker….1982

P.S. this book is still censored.
John Hanson had his hand in this.
he made sure that it didn’t get catologed by Lib of Cong
Hamaker and Hanson were aquainted with each other
Hanson has restricted climate models other than those
favorable for industry since the seventies by not letting
them be funded.
Hamaker presented his concerns to Congress in 1981.

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By babycatajesus, July 29, 2010 at 8:37 pm Link to this comment

There are far too many humans infesting the planet, some 6,834,457.??? today and counting; http://math.berkeley.edu/~galen/popclk.html with a projected 8,7 – 9 billion people by 2050!

How can we possibly accommodate this level of population?

Who can blame the so-called 3rd and 4th world people, with the benefit of satellite media beamed into their homes and villages, from wanting to embrace a 1st world lifestyle.

Who can blame those who live in heavily polluted, poverty stricken and totaliterian states from aspiring to live like us? In the process of building industrial infrastructure in both India and China to meet the expectations, the demands of their people, what will be left of planet Earth’s environment?

Some pundits forecast that it would take the equllivent of some 8 resource rich planets the size of Earth to fulfil this “impossible dream” for every person in the World, right now.

Who cannot comprehend that Collapse is inevitable?

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By Don Stivers, July 29, 2010 at 8:24 pm Link to this comment

IT IS WARMING.  THAT IS TRUE.  BUT IT SEEMED TO HAVE STARTED 10 OR 12 THOUSAND YEARS AGO.  EUROPE WAS UNDER A MILE OF ICE.  WHAT IS LEFT IS JUST NOW MELTING.  AND THE SMALLER THE ICE FIELDS THE FASTER IT GOES. SOMETHING IS GOING ON.  I DON’T BELIEVE IT IS JUST BECAUSE OF HUMANS.  A SMALL PART MAYBE.  THERE WAS A HICCUP IN THE WARMING TREND A FEW CENTURIES AGO WHEN IT COOLED.  THERE WAS SOME REAL WARM WEATHER IN THE 15TH CENTURY I BELIEVE.  COOLED BACK DOWN BUT THE TREND HAS BEEN TO WARM UP SINCE THE GLACIERS COVERING THE UPPER PORTIONS OF NORTH AMERICA, EUROPE AND ASIA BEGAN RETREATING….FROM SOME SORT OF WARMING I THINK.  MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE CAVE MAN BUILT TOO MANY FIRES AND THE SOOT SET DOWN ON THE ICE IN A BLACK BLANKET AND STARTED THE GLACIERS TO MELT.  CAN ANYBODY TELL WHY THE ICE CAPS ON MARS HAVE BEEN RETREATING? 

YES, I THINK MAN SCREWS THE WORLD UP BUT THAT WARMING STARTED LONG AGO.  AND IT JUST SEEMS TO KEEP ACCELERATING WITH A FEW SPUTTERS ALONG THE WAY.

I’M NOT DENYING HUMANS ARE A HUGE PART OF SCREWING THE WORLD UP, LOOK AT THE GULF!  LOOK AT OUR COAL MINES! LOOK AT THE DAMS ON THE WORLD’S RIVERS!  BUT THE WARMING, IT IS PUZZLING WHY THOSE GLACIERS STARTED RETREATING AND NOBODY HAS NOTICED.  THE FIORDS AROUND THE WORLD WERE ONCE FILLED WITH ICE.  THAT IS WHAT CREATED THEM.  WHY ARE THEY (THE GLACIERS) GONE?

AND, YES, I TOO HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE WORLD.  I AM A HUMAN.  JUST TOO MANY HUMANS.  AND WE ARE ALL DRIVEN TO REPRODUCE.  AND KEEP REPRODUCING IN THE FACE OF FAMINE….AND WE ALL WANT TO CONSUME.

HMMM….

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By rollzone, July 29, 2010 at 7:25 pm Link to this comment

hello. i often barge into discussions. get out of the way. i agree the carbon credits scheme is only politicians and elites working in concert to abuse the serfs, with paid knowledge they will not release to the public. i agree we could do better about what we use as energy, and burning fossil fuels only causes cancer, while polluting the atmosphere. however, on a global scale it is insignificant to climate. perhaps the planetary alignment culminating in 2012, is causing temperature variations at remarkable rapidity, previously determined to take centuries; and the coming changes will deem underground living irrelevant: as breathable oxygen escapes the lower atmospheres; and probably water as well. that is an extreme scenario of surface temperatures reaching in excess of 180 degrees. and all the pollution we put in the air is inconsequential to such a galactic event. the annals of history are the keepers of the truth, and as i recall we cleaned out the museums in Iraq, and everywhere else carbon credit globalists deemed necessary to hide the truth. carbon credits will be the final shoe to drop for global rule, as gold having been replaced by the dollar, will be supplanted with electronic beeps for the greedy oil barons. an ark floats along with the new water level high in the sky. instead of becoming reptilian-like rodents, think above the present condition. get past Tipper having a fever headache, and have some faith that what happens will be no better because we buy carbon credits. in five years when we are all through this galactic progressive adjustment, much will be laughable. helping those less fortunate is the only goal to survival, and staying healthy. i grimaced and prayed last week when 600 Peruvians died from extreme cold: -11*, mostly children under five, and the elderly over sixty. the globe temperatures are changing, and many people need help. if there was any truth about what is really happening, could we help?

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By samosamo, July 29, 2010 at 7:08 pm Link to this comment

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By babycatajesus, July 29 at 10:08 pm

“”“Civilisation is energy-intensive and we cannot turn it off
without crashing, so we need the security of a powered
descent.”“”
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Here is where even Lovelock is a bit off in my opinion. It almost
sounds as if as much energy or more needs to be utilized, not to
matter how much it will poison everybody, to keep civilization
from crashing outright. That crash will happen as things will
NOT remain the same for the convenience of maintaining our
‘civilization’. What else that happens is a reduction of sorts of the
human animal, not everyone will be living to a nice ripe old age
in controlled atmospheres that has for the last several decades
‘conditioned’ humans to not be able to cope with sweltering heat
which is what so many people had to do before conditioned
atmospheres and the necessity of remaining in doors for long
periods of time which will in it self create problems for retro-
conditioned humans. I can’t swear that it was as hot as this when
I was a kid but there was no controlled atmospheres in the
summer at our house until 1960. Besides we may just turn
around and confound the climate change warming nay sayers by
stirring them up to denounce this so called warming.

Humans existed quite well enough, thank you, in the past,
witness that humans are and/or its proto-humans are several
millions of years old. Humans have to a degree extended the
average life time such that more people have accumulated under
controlled conditions serviced/fed by energy but retaining all the
perks of our ‘civilized’ world won’t be possible. That is a feature
of climate change which can and does go into prolonged periods
of heating(dinosaurs supposedly lived in sauna type conditions
for 165,000,000 or so years) and prolonged periods of cooling
after they were gone.

Humans will hold on and fight for as long as they can but
inevitably trying to use energy to remain comfortable, eventually
that will cease to work and it will be sort of like back to the caves
which maybe will mean that during hot times the sensible
creatures will just find cooler shade during the day and do their
‘shopping and work’ in the evenings, nights and early mornings.
Fuck the jerks that will try to demand work in the broiling sun.
But I have digressed and I hope those jerks don’t do anything
much to do with anything before too long. But it is possible that
most of us will have expired by that time anyway.

Check out NOAA’s web site with a search on ice ages and
climate change.

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By babycatajesus, July 29, 2010 at 6:08 pm Link to this comment

The Earth is about to catch a morbid fever that may last as long as 100,000 years - each nation must find the best use of its resources to sustain civilisation for as long as they can, argues James Lovelock. Published in The Independent, 16 January 2006

“So what should we do? First, we have to keep in mind the awesome pace of change and realise how little time is left to act; and then each community and nation must find the best use of the resources they have to sustain civilisation for as long as they can. Civilisation is energy-intensive and we cannot turn it off without crashing, so we need the security of a powered descent. On these British Isles, we are used to thinking of all humanity and not just ourselves; environmental change is global, but we have to deal with the consequences here in the UK”.

“Unfortunately our nation is now so urbanised as to be like a large city and we have only a small acreage of agriculture and forestry. We are dependent on the trading world for sustenance; climate change will deny us regular supplies of food and fuel from overseas”.

“We could grow enough to feed ourselves on the diet of the Second World War, but the notion that there is land to spare to grow biofuels, or be the site of wind farms, is ludicrous. We will do our best to survive, but sadly I cannot see the United States or the emerging economies of China and India cutting back in time, and they are the main source of emissions. The worst will happen and survivors will have to adapt to a hell of a climate”.

“Perhaps the saddest thing is that Gaia will lose as much or more than we do. Not only will wildlife and whole ecosystems go extinct, but in human civilisation the planet has a precious resource. We are not merely a disease; we are, through our intelligence and communication, the nervous system of the planet. Through us, Gaia has seen herself from space, and begins to know her place in the universe”.

“We should be the heart and mind of the Earth, not its malady. So let us be brave and cease thinking of human needs and rights alone, and see that we have harmed the living Earth and need to make our peace with Gaia. We must do it while we are still strong enough to negotiate, and not a broken rabble led by brutal war lords. Most of all, we should remember that we are a part of it, and it is indeed our home”.

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By babycatajesus, July 29, 2010 at 5:58 pm Link to this comment

Nuclear energy for the 21st Century - Speech by James Lovelock to the International Conference in Paris, 21 - 22 March 2005:

“We are now at 380 parts per million (CO2)and at the present rate of increase it could reach 400 parts per million in a shorter time than 7 years. We have so damaged the atmosphere of the earth and destroyed its natural ecosystems to provide farmlands for our growing numbers, that already the world is diseased and will not recover for thousands of years. Every year we carry on business as usual, increases the harm done. We can hardly claim to be civilised if we think of ourselves alone. It is not the miseries of the first few skirmishes with Gaia through this century that should most concern us. It is the thought that our heedless indulgence now, if unchecked, will leave ruins for future generations”.

“We will do our best to avoid catastrophe but sadly I cannot see the United States or the emerging economies of China and India cutting back in time, and soon they will be our main sources of emission”.

“I fear that the worst may happen and our survivors will have to adapt to a hot and uncomfortable world. To retain civilisation then, they will need more than ever a secure and reliable source of energy to power the adaptation and for this there is no sensible alternative to nuclear energy”.

“As the earth changes to its new hot state there will be fast geographic and demographic changes. Civilisation is energy intensive and we cannot turn it off without crashing. Though we need something much more effective than the Green ideology of the Kyoto agreement, I suspect that we will do little until the catastrophes of the intensifying greenhouse becomes frequent enough to make us pull together as a global unit with a self restraint to stop burning fossil fuel and abusing Gaia. I believe that meanwhile the world nuclear industry will continue to supply electricity in a safe and reliable manner and that this supply will give civilisation the chance to survive through the difficult time soon to come”.

“We have to stop thinking of human needs and rights alone. Let us be brave and see that the real threat comes from the living earth, which we have harmed and is now at war with us. We have to make our peace with Gaia and remember we are part of it. And it is indeed our home”.

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By gerard, July 29, 2010 at 5:02 pm Link to this comment

Just speculation, but I may have hit on something in my suggestion of “a deep unconscious loathing of life itself.”  Old Man Turtle and others of similar background are saying something similar in their astute critiques of “whitey” and all the other “civilized” ignoramuses.
  There is that about Christianity (the theory of the Fall, incorrigible evil, salvation and “the rapture” etc.) which breeds fear and presents a dark view of human possibilities. inhibiting clear observation of the physical environment as well as independent, creative thought and courage. 
  As a widely held religion promoted by an extensive and influential priesthood (including “ministers of the Gospel”) and incorporated in the very foundational laws of this nation, there can be no doubt of its deep influence on American patterns of thought—and the limitations of those patterns. 
  To label them “anti-life” may be a little extreme—until you look at the patterns of American behavior over our 200+ years of conquest and denial, still excrutiatingly in evidence today.

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By samosamo, July 29, 2010 at 3:47 pm Link to this comment

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By gerard, July 29 at 5:54 pm

Thanks, that is one of the best assessments of the hubristic
u.s.a. I have read of late.

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By gerard, July 29, 2010 at 1:54 pm Link to this comment

Putting the burden of research back on you, let me suggest looking into the social welfare programs of some of the Scandinavian and northern European countries so far as health care and social legislation in general goes.  Also, check on attitudes toward a general sense of world citizenship and obligation as opposed to isolationism and the urge to dominate.
  It has been my general experience and observation that European countries and Japan have better provision for health care.  Japan is pretty good for offering college and university training at reasonable cost to students who can pass qualifying tests.  This may also be true in Europe;  I’m not sure. 
  U.S. being so certain that it is “top” has led to assumptions of superiority in all things which is irksome to the rest of the world. An all-pervasive belief in “white supremacy” has also held us back.
Now it’s not only “white” supremacy, but “financial” supremacy and a general belief that we are “freer”, “more democratic” etc. etc. that makes us the world’s worst snobs as a nation, and prevents our moving into further improvement and a cooperative attitude with others to further mutual development.
  What country in the world so covets power and so obviously exhibits ignorance, considering our huge advantages compared to others? What other country so savagely exploits other nations’ resources?
  Sorry, but considering what we could be doing in the world compared to what we are doing makes me feel sick at heart.

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By diman, July 29, 2010 at 11:38 am Link to this comment

By Gerard:
” Some places in the world are doing far better than the U.S. in many ways”

This is a vague statement, what places are doing far better than U.S.? Some other countries have decided not to be a part of the planet Earth in order not to share one common collapse?

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By gerard, July 29, 2010 at 9:11 am Link to this comment

Anderson:  I don’t believe thenstuff about the rich man’s safe haven, nor Knopfler’s agitated vocabulary which is as hysterical as the Christian stuff.
  With so many people so hysterical (if you remember that people in positions of power are just as prone to fear as the “lower classes”) it is no wonder wars go on and on and all the money that could go into less destructive energy sources, goes into killing people and perpetuating defunct ways of thinking.
  Some places in the world are doing far better than the U.S. in many ways. What is really at the heart of U.S persistent blindness and intransigence?  Is it just money—or a deep unconscious loathing of life itself?

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By samosamo, July 29, 2010 at 9:04 am Link to this comment

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Easy to complain about the heat wave when you are in an
controlled atmosphere. Wait until the power is rationed and then
it will come home about what is being done and what eventually
will have to be done.

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By diman, July 29, 2010 at 8:53 am Link to this comment

Whithin a couple of months, there will be another report, signed by the most prominent scientists, indicating that this spike in temperature has nothing to do with global warming and it had happened before. Nobody knows shit about what is going on with the climate.

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By cpb, July 29, 2010 at 8:07 am Link to this comment

“Hanson lies,  Gore lies and McKibbon lies…............”

Hi ofersince72

Clarification?  Lying by implying we can change the
scenario in the short term or _________? 

Gore is an elite who’s going to profit from something
regardless, but where is Hanson profiting in this?  Isn’t
he just a grunt with a pretty good benefits package who
sings a discomforting song?

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By ofersince72, July 29, 2010 at 6:53 am Link to this comment

balkas…........you are not fooling anyone

no way have you given up on nice looking asses….

On the Climate Collapse balkas…....
no one knows what is in store….....................
for real….........................................
only there is going to be drastic weather….............
and guess what….......................................
we will also set some cooling records…................
then, probably in less than fifteen years…...........
guess what….................????????????????????????????
MELTING H20   +  RISING TEMP =  EVAPORATION
EVAPORATION   =  CLOUDS
CLOUDS     =  ALBEDO
we don’t have any idea what to expect, except that
Hanson lies,  Gore lies and McKibbon lies…............
not to say…...........................................
that what Mckibbin is doing…............................
is bad….maybe a good lie…............................
for he is really trying to get .........................
the ecology turned around…............................
but he also knows, as hanson&gore;.......................
that…there….is….no….way…man…can….effect….
the…..C02ppm…..even….if…we….were….to…......
shut…down…alll….emmisions….today….............
McKibbon…knows…this…well….so..gore..&..hanson….
but…McKibbon’s…effort….at..least…sincere….
(.i..think..)  gore&hanson;...in…it…for…$$$$$$$$$$$$

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By balkas, July 29, 2010 at 6:28 am Link to this comment

Getting a new, improved, better looking ass is more important to fat people than warming.
Besides, some americans have already bought acres and acres of land in novaya zemya [new land]  and n.siberia.

So -5+% [usage is in dictionary and pictionary] of richest americans are not worried about warmings
I put it in plural because there’s new one every day; each imperceptibly worse; thus, hard to notice.

Oh, devil, what i’d do to become stupid again. I made a big mistake paying attention but in a stupid way.
At one time i even believed in the Greatness of America and nice looking asses! tnx

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By samosamo, July 28, 2010 at 11:54 pm Link to this comment

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Well, wait until winter and some heavy snow fall covers some
parts of amerika and people(neocon wing nuts) will automatically
proclaim and declare there is no such thing as global warming.
They are just waiting in their closets to do this.

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By G.Anderson, July 28, 2010 at 9:15 pm Link to this comment

Really? Never under estimate the power of Denial..

or for that matter, the power of mental illness and sociopathic delusion…

Try talking a lunatic out of believing that they are Napolean Bonaparte, or Jesus Christ…

The plutocracy will be denying Global Warming, up until they climb into their safe secret bunkers deep in the heart of the earth, to wait out the coming catastrophe, while they leave the 99’ers on the service to fry…

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By gerard, July 28, 2010 at 8:35 pm Link to this comment

For my right-wing Christian granddaughter:  If you believe that God created this world for Adam and Eve and their descendants to exploit, cultivate and dominate, and that if and when Adam’s descendants misbehave, God will destroy the world to punish evil-doers and “rapture up” obedient people, you have little or no power to change your mind. Evidence that contradicts your belief is easily disregarded as lies.
  You believe you must follow what some priest or preacher says—which may includes a number of things that prevent your own question-asking and free thought. Your behavior (and that of others like you) helps to prevent needed change.   
  Too many yous and not enough wes and theys leads to—guess what—more and more global warming.
  P.S.  Global warming is not something you believe in or don’t believe in.  It is a future calamity whose signals are now being seen worldwide.
  P.S.2—Ironically, your scientific great grandfather would be dumbfounded if he knew what you are teaching your children.  Talk about moving backward!  How can this be happening?  It amazes me!

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By Peter Knopfler, July 28, 2010 at 8:29 pm Link to this comment

Well Hello!
What do you expect, this is the beginning of SUNSPOT MAXIMUM, 11 years of various degrees of warming, more Hurricanes, Volcanic under ocean erruptions, more drought like in Russia, More Typhoons as in China, Yes Between Wars, Saber rattling and Climate agitation, Solar SACRIFICES WILL RULE THIS DECADE: http://www.americanchronicle.com/article/view/7279
SO BETWEEN the fast food garbage,Vaccinations, the floridated water and antibiotic meat-poultry-dairy, garbage for the brain propoganda, Of coarse no one beleives anything its all opinion, between all that and the SUNSPOT MAX, our Human PINEAL GLAND will be abused to the MAXIMUM. Prozac nation, watch suicides both military and civilian, “NO SUCH THING THIS CLIMATE WARMING”,“conspiracy towards carbon taxation and one world gov`t.”  There is your problem, No one wants to face up to it, only face book it! “People Get ready, there is a storm a commin”, look for the New Moon, OCT 7!Amswers coming soon!

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By ofersince72, July 28, 2010 at 7:46 pm Link to this comment

Blaa, Blaa, Blaa, 

Folks are sorts of records are going to be broken,
not just heat
There will, around the globe be many cold records
too because of the Climate Collapse,

Out government can’t even tell the truth about the
pending Climate Collapse.
they have their collaborators help distort the truth
McKibby, Gorey, PH.D man Hansony…....................
Hansony has been at this distortion since the seventies.

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