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Hitchens: Shame on U.S. and PakistanPosted on Jun 6, 2011
In his latest, scathingly critical essay for Vanity Fair, Christopher Hitchens makes it eminently clear that he isn’t buying any of the stories the U.S. and Pakistani governments are selling about their increasingly complicated (and, in Hitchens’ view, hypocritical) relationship, and it’s also evident that he doesn’t think much of Pakistan in general. The recent killing of Osama bin Laden only further exposed these unsavory truths, according to his analysis. Judging by his characterization exercise in the piece, personifying Pakistan’s national character, Hitchens isn’t going to make many friends over there with this one. —KA
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By JG, January 30, 2012 at 11:59 am Link to this comment
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Tim Lieder, it looks like an “AND” statement is just too complicated for your insect-like
intelligence. How about those Pakistan nukes? I guess American money, patronage and indulgence made them possible just like the Pak military. That IS what Hitchens idiotic statement says now isn’t it? However, you are not even capable of repeating it correctly.
“Hitchens is stating the the military in Pakistan only
Report thisexists due to American money. Didn’t realize that this
concept was too complicated for you.”
By Tim Lieder, January 29, 2012 at 8:16 pm Link to this comment
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Hitchens is stating the the military in Pakistan only exists due to American money. Didn’t realize that this concept was too complicated for you.
Report thisBy JG, September 10, 2011 at 8:39 pm Link to this comment
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Could someone elaborate on this Chris Hitchens point
Report thishere: “The two main symbols of Pakistan’s pride—
its army and its nuclear program—are wholly
parasitic on American indulgence and patronage.”
How exactly is the Pakistan nuclear program wholly
parasitic on American indulgence and patronage? What
does that mean? A better statement would simply
substitute North Korea for Pakistan and China for the
US. At least that makes some sense. That is, if you
have done the most basic research about Pakistan and
nuclear power which Hitchens obviously has not done.
He remains a war mongering blowhard to the end.
By Leefeller, June 8, 2011 at 8:31 am Link to this comment
Not seeing any specific disagreements with Hitches comments, just the usual generalities, I suspect Hitchens may be somewhat if not completely correct in his rantings?
So the idea is to dispute his comments by making crap up?
Ben Laudan has ben dead for years?
Hitchens used the F word so makes him crazy?
What other country is shameless? (Hitches was talking about two countries here)?
All or nothing? Hitichens supported the Iraq war so this is like Bush you are with us or against us?
So, the parasitic indulgences of finger pointing makes it okay?
Hitchens is a hypocrite pervert, just because someone says so and Hitchens didn’t find Osma Ben Ladan in Israel?
Hitchens is bombing the hell out of other peoples so he is expecting gratitude?
It all makes sense to me now,.. anyone who does not agree with absolutist certainty and is not in lock step unison with any of the above comments,...means they happens to be scum of the earth?
Report thisBy Son of Palestine, June 7, 2011 at 7:37 pm Link to this comment
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diamond, Rudolfo,kerryrose,Ralf Kramden & BBFmail:
Your comments are well-informed, intellectual and reflect free thinking and solid knowlege. You guys are the salt of our Mother Earth, and this country will never recover from its falsehoods and misguidance till we have a majority of your informed types.
The rest of the comments I read thus far are just propaganda garbage, written by brainwashed and fanatic individuals, such as Hitchens himself,who don’t know the bless of being free-thinkers and truthdiggers.
Thank you guys, and no thanks to the others who chose to be the skum of the Earth!
Report thisBy diamond, June 7, 2011 at 3:17 pm Link to this comment
“Pakistan potentially having imperialist interests in taking over Afghanistan, via the Talaban is a new one on me.”
Where on earth have you been? Over four million people fled Afghanistan when Ronald Reagan armed and funded the Muhajideen to fight a proxy war for America to give the Soviet Union its ‘Vietnam’. Those refugees were the pool out of which the ISI, who are closely linked to the CIA, created the Taliban. This is how they do it, it’s like an employment creation scheme for the Pentagon and the CIA: first they create terror, then they create terrorists and then they say ‘We’ll protect you from the terrorists, but you have to give up every stitch of democracy and civil rights that was ever created since the Enlightenment.’
My problem with Hitchens? This man had a first class education and has a first class brain: is it too much to ask him to tell the truth about the Iraq War, the War in Afghanistan, the War on Terror, the ISI, the Taliban and America’s role in all of them? Apparently it is. And for that I despise him. And for Hitchens to call the Pakistanis imperialists but not to call the number one imperialists in the world, the American state and its military/intelligence/Corporate infrastructure, imperialist reveals him for the devious, blinkered fool he is. Listen to anything he’s ever had to say on the war in Iraq and you can see he’s just a stooge for American power and can never go outside that mental box. It’s a waste of a mind, but he’s not the first and he won’t be the last to sell out.
Report thisBy Rudolfo, June 7, 2011 at 10:53 am Link to this comment
You can google air force magazine, and at the top of the page you’ll find a link to a Daily Report Archive, where the US air strikes in the middle east are recorded on a day by day basis. They average about 100 per day.
The US military is in the middle east, bombing the hell out of the population, while psychopaths like C. Hitchens lambaste the victims for failing to show the proper gratitude for the constant US attacks.
While the US is slaughtering innocent people every day half way around the world in the middle east, there is a constant media barrage portraying the US as the victims of senseless violence while they’re lounging and watching cable TV, and portraying the persons in the middle east who are running for the lives from US planes and helicopters as religious fanatics bent on destroying us. It is EXACTLY as Orwell predicted. We are living it everyday.
Report thisBy Shenonymous, June 7, 2011 at 4:53 am Link to this comment
A nation having war-ready nuclear power does something shockingly dreadful and deplorable to the world. Which is why it is grossly important that Iran does not develop nuclear weapons and why America and other nations need to eliminate their stocks of such weaponry. Germany’s decision to end nuclear energy is a brave and wise step for there are forces in human hands that are imminently so dangerous as to be without a doubt a precursor to mass death and mass misery enough to ruin this world for the length of human existence which its demise would be hastened by irresponsible irrational actions.
Pakistan as described by Hitchens in the Vanity Fair article is breathtaking and ought to sound not only the bell for the danger treacherous Pakistan presents in the way of nuclear armaments should these instruments of mass death get into the hands of terrorist al Qaeda, which is not too far fetched, but a decimation of human morality as well. His is not an anti-Muslim article but a anti-fanatical Islamist warning. For the powers that be in Pakistan and their military, the disregard for human life and human dignity is appallingly savage.
Report thisBy kerryrose, June 7, 2011 at 2:50 am Link to this comment
For those of you who propose that all dissenting comments about Hitchens MUST not have read the enlightening article, I will give you an example of Hitchens own grossness and hypocrisy:
‘Well, what fucking sovereignty? What fucking sovereignty were these people “protecting”?’
What kind of a pig would believe a country’s sovereignty is a farce and can be impuned on at will by the US because we are morally superior?
Report thisBy Leefeller, June 6, 2011 at 8:33 pm Link to this comment
I found Hitchens article refreshing in its robust nature, for I feel we have been duped for a long time by the politicians and special interests to waste money down Pakistan rat hole, but not for the people of our nation or people of Pakistan.
Hitichens talks a lot of smack about Pakistan with emotional gusto, and I find it informative. I learned of time worn relationships and historical events, which I was unaware of until now.
As for having allies like Pakistan, who needs enemies,...I agree with Hitchens,... what a total waste of money used against our own goals and interests to support the Pakistan nuclear program and especially for them to be protecting and hiding Osama Ben Ladan for 10 years is unacceptable. Pakistan potentially having imperialist interests in taking over Afghanistan, via the Talaban is a new one on me.
I suspect most posters here did not read Hitchens entire article, and if they did they may be elite Pakistanis supporters and opportunists from Pakistan, Hitchens makes many valid points.
Report thisBy Aa, June 6, 2011 at 8:26 pm Link to this comment
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Very well written article about Pakistan and it’s terrorist organizations like ISI and LeT
Report thisBy Pheriton, June 6, 2011 at 5:15 pm Link to this comment
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Forget the white noise coming from this thread of comments and read the article.
By the end of it you’ll know more about the history of our relationship with
Pakistan than half of our political leaders do.
And what the other half won’t admit to.
Report thisBy Son of Palestine, June 6, 2011 at 4:59 pm Link to this comment
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I wish this hypocrite, pervert Hitchens would dare to say anything about the shameful, hypocritical and mutually enabling relationship between terrorist Israel and terrorist United States of America, with Israel being the largest recipient of American tax-payer money than any other country. In fact, considering the told and untold billions the U.S. sends to 6 million collonialist Zionsts of Israel, any other money sent to other client states pales in per capita comparison.
Report thisBy Ralph Kramden, June 6, 2011 at 4:42 pm Link to this comment
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“The two main symbols of Pakistan’s pride—its army and its nuclear program—are wholly parasitic on American indulgence and patronage.” I wonder what other country has that parasitic relationship with the USA? Israel maybe? Poor Hitchens. I do hesitate to attack him, he did so much good work. Lately, in his neo-con reincarnation, he has become one who thinks that being anti-Semite is a no,no but being anti-Muslim is ok. If Pakistan decides to call itself a Muslim-state why is that offensive when we allow that other state to call itself a Jewish state? Notice how someone who is a naturalized citizen quickly reverts from USA to the imperialist term America and American as Hitchens does, it’s the name of a continent stupid. As to vigilante actions, Hitchens seems to think that it is OK for the USA but not for Pinochet. Odd. I wish you the best of luck in your illness Hitchens, but as to your politics you are becoming a fascist.
Report thisBy Robespierre115, June 6, 2011 at 4:36 pm Link to this comment
Hitchens basically lost all credibility when he supported the Iraq war and continues to make bizarre excuses for that conflict. And like all neocons, he never bothers to condemn the very fact that the US is only making the situation worse by bombing Pakistan’s tribal areas. Of course for Hitchens bombing Pakistan is just fine because Muslims are being killed and he sees religion as the fountain of all the world’s ills. As Noam Chomsky recently stated about Hitchens, he’s been ranting like a loon for years now.
Report thisBy diamond, June 6, 2011 at 2:42 pm Link to this comment
“Does the US have a monopoly on shamelessness?”
No, Kerryrose, but Hitchens does. And I agree with BBFmail, which makes Hitchens screams of outrage over bin Laden’s life in the compound watching porn and dying his beard black and, of course, his alleged ‘death’ even funnier. Kafka wrote a story about a man who woke up to find he had turned into a huge bug. Hitchens didn’t write it: he did it.
Report thisBy kerryrose, June 6, 2011 at 2:01 pm Link to this comment
I can tell Hitchens what other country has been historically shameless. Does the US have a monopoly on shamelessness?
Report thisBy BBFmail, June 6, 2011 at 1:31 pm Link to this comment
Bin Laden has been dead for years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn1EXwjFOa0
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