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Harry Reid Opposes ‘Ground Zero Mosque’

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Posted on Aug 16, 2010
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, under pressure from his tea party rival in Nevada’s Senate race, has released a statement saying he thinks “the mosque should be built someplace else.”

Washington Post:

In a statement issued by his spokesman, Jim Manley, Reid came out against the building of the Islamic center.

“The First Amendment protects freedom of religion,” Manley wrote in an e-mail. “Senator Reid respects that, but thinks that the mosque should be built someplace else.”

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By berniem, August 18, 2010 at 10:28 am Link to this comment

As are most politicians, Reid is an opportunist with no discernible principles unless you count those that keep him in office and his balance sheet healthy. Being a Mormon you’d think he’d be more sensitive to intolerance. This whole thing is a non-issue thrown up as a smoke screen diverting attention from the activities of a government, cum crime syndicate, bent on global control of wealth and resources while stifiling criticism at home.

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By Carl, August 18, 2010 at 5:19 am Link to this comment

Reid is in trouble because of his support for mass illegal immigration. Las Vegas is just 1.5 hours from the border and has the nation’s highest unemployment rate. If you visit the soup kitchens here, you see that half are illegals. The locals want something done, yet Reid insists on loyalty to his corporate masters that the more cheap desperate workers here, the better for business. As a Mormon, Reid is pro-Corporate America and pro-Empire, which is how he became majority leader.

Luckily, his opponent is one of those naive corporate reps who thinks all government is evil, even social security and Medicare, so she will lose.

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By Aarky, August 17, 2010 at 1:19 pm Link to this comment
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Senator Reid is a gutless, nutless, spineless wimp. His totally ineffective leadership of the Demos in the Senate should be enough to get him defeated in November, except we know what would replace him and that’s even more scary. It is truly disgusting that he would stoop so low. Why doesn’t he suggest a national law that no Catholic church could be built within ten blocks of a public school because of the problem priests liking all those young boys.

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By Jim Yell, August 17, 2010 at 8:35 am Link to this comment
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I believe that all religions have a tendency to cause exlusionism and encourage people to abuse one another based upon differing beliefs, which have nothing to do with day to day life.

I believe the law should step in and close down or punish congregations that promote withdrawing legal protection from others, on that score most of our Protestant and Catholic churchs would be at risk, but than so would the Mosque.

For our society to work people must be free to change religions as frequently as they wish, or to have no relgion at all. Churchs that work to over turn this right should be closed. People like Phelps who aggressively disrupt private funerals should be treated as criminals, which they are. Mosques that promote treating women as objects of their husbands should not be tolerated.

As to the 9/11 Mosque, it is hard to not see this as an aggressive and disrespectful and publicity stunt, and it is no surprise that Moslems don’t understand this or pretend to not understand this, just as some Catholics who built a shrine next to a concentration camp site in Poland and then went about converting the Jewish ghosts to Catholic Religion and couldn’t understand why the Jews got mad.

Frankly I hate all religions, but Abrahamic Relgions have the worst record for abusing others, why encourage them?

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By altara, August 17, 2010 at 6:49 am Link to this comment
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Salt Lake City Creates No Church Zone

Yesterday the Salt Lake City Council passed an ordinance banning the construction of any non-Mormon churches within 1 mile of Temple Square, the site of the Mormon Tabernacle. This was in response to a poll of city residents showing that 62% of responders oppose the proposed construction a branch of Rick Warren’s Southern Baptist Saddleback Church. The Mayor is expected to sign the new law tomorrow.

According to City Council spokesman Robert Smith, the Saddleback Church and Community Center would be only three blocks from the Tabernacle and might even be visible from parts of the Tabernacle. He stated that the Council in no way questions the right of churches, as a matter of religious freedom, to build wherever they wish but that they must comply with local zoning laws. The Council respects the 1st Amendment but church officials must have the wisdom not to build where it would offend the sensibilities of the residents.

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By RayLan, August 17, 2010 at 5:32 am Link to this comment

Great- the Democrats now have even less credibility than they had up till now. Sen Reid’s is a sappy potlically correct position - not a liberal one. The two parties no longer represent clearly defined political visions - conservative and liberal but seem like two wings of the same dragon.

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By Fat Freddy, August 17, 2010 at 3:49 am Link to this comment

If Reid thinks the mosque should be built someplace else, maybe he should donate some land to them in the middle of the Vegas Strip.

We’re talking about NYC, one of the most densely populated areas in the World, not the Nevada desert. They can’t just build it some place else. Asshole.

If two blocks is too close, is four blocks? Six, eight, ten? What exactly is “too close”, and who decides what is, and what isn’t? Harry Reid from Nevada?

It’s not a mosque, and it’s not at ground zero!

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By Ouroborus, August 17, 2010 at 2:56 am Link to this comment

By wildflower, August 17 at 2:59 am Link to this
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Re Rico, Suave: “Am I spelling “cynical opportunist”
correctly?”

No, Rico, I think it’s spelled “cowardly opportunist.”
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+1; agreed. Integrity is MIA in America’s political
landscape as well.

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By wildflower, August 16, 2010 at 10:59 pm Link to this comment

Re Rico, Suave: “Am I spelling “cynical opportunist” correctly?”

No, Rico, I think it’s spelled “cowardly opportunist.”

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By Squeeky, August 16, 2010 at 10:57 pm Link to this comment

I have found that the Public Broadcasting Station (PBS):Charlie Rose Round Table Discussion and The News Hour w/Jim Lehrer to be relatively free of hoopla and she said/ he said.

I think these two programs are among the better news programs on cable television.

Note: Among pundits, congresspeople, and others of that ilk, Charlie Rose also interviews authors, nobel peace prize winners, notable entertainters, and others of various industries.

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By heavyrunner, August 16, 2010 at 7:36 pm Link to this comment

I recently viewed a documentary on the life of Detrich Bonhoffer, a German theologian of the first half of the 20th century who was involved in the plot to kill Hitler. The film included speeches by Adolf Hitler with more extensive subtitle…s than any I have seen within memory. Of course Hitler did not need to present evidence about the imagined Jewish conspiracies he railed against. I offer that as an example of how dangerous it is to allow demagogic indictment of an entire race or faith without requiring evidence.

Bonhoffer was hung in a Nazi concentration camp only a few days before Hitler committed suicide as the Red Army entered the outskirts of Berlin.

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, August 16, 2010 at 7:01 pm Link to this comment
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The president takes an oath to uphold the constitution and that’s what he was doing on Friday when he made his statement regarding freedom of religion.  Reid wants to uphold the constitution when it’s expedient to do so, otherwise not.  When the president is attacked for reminding us what the constitution says we have entered dangerous, new territory.

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By rico, suave, August 16, 2010 at 6:45 pm Link to this comment

Am I spelling “cynical opportunist” correctly?

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By Malcontent, August 16, 2010 at 5:30 pm Link to this comment

Posted by FiftyGigs;

“...liberal media pointyheads beamed explanations in true Poindexter fashion that it isn’t really a mosque and it isn’t really at Ground Zero.”

All irrelevant, in light of the first amendment. Who cares what it is or where it is. It’s their land. And their religion is no more irrational or able to be evil, than anyone else’s.

Read some of the comments on the WaPo link. Wow. No wonder that paper and our country are dying.

What does it seem to be mostly x-tians, worshiping the exact same god, who are against religious freedom for others?

I would be fine with no mosques, if they tore all the fucking churches, synagogues, fortune tellers, astrologist’s and other scam artists down too.

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By Malcontent, August 16, 2010 at 5:25 pm Link to this comment

Read some of the comments on the WaPo link. Wow. No wonder that paper and our country are dying.

What does it seem to be mostly x-tians, worshiping the exact same god, who are against religious freedom for others?

I would be fine with no mosques, if they tore all the fucking churches, synagogues, fortune tellers, astrologist’s and other scam artists down too.

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By FiftyGigs, August 16, 2010 at 5:22 pm Link to this comment

Well, this is one issue liberal media handed to conservatives on a silver platter.

While conservatives decried the construction of a “mosque” at “Ground Zero”, liberal media pointyheads beamed explanations in true Poindexter fashion that it isn’t really a mosque and it isn’t really at Ground Zero.

That’ll teach ‘em.

Except as inept as that was, it was made worse by the fact that liberal media kept headlining the story as “the mosque at Ground Zero”. (Note the headline above on our dear TruthDig.)

Somehow liberal media needs to move past its embrace of the CONCEPTS of liberty, and start covering the actual PRACTICE of liberty.

How?

Oh, I dunno. Maybe put somebody on tv involved in the thing, rather than publicizing the conservatives who merely want to “message” against some inane fantasy?

Are there no reporters actually reporting anymore?

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