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GOP Plotting to Block Funds for Health Care LawPosted on Feb 8, 2011
It may not happen right away, but for his part, Rep. Eric Cantor, otherwise known as House majority leader, has put it out there that his GOP House squad is planning to introduce language into upcoming legislation that will prevent the dreaded Obamacare law from being funded. —KA
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By diamond, February 9, 2011 at 6:30 pm Link to this comment
“Many posters here don’t even seem to understand the whole concept of “Enumerated Powers” at all. Can the Feds make you buy whatever they want if they have 60 votes? Really? Why haven’t they done that before?”
The real problem here is nothing that you’ve referred to, it’s much deeper than that. It is part of the fabric of conservatism itself:
I have a book called ‘American Political Thought’ - I could be a shit and say it’s a very short book but it’s actually not, so I won’t. However, in a chapter called ‘Conservatism’ there’s a section, ‘Aristocracy and Social Justice’, which sums up perfectly what people like Cantor - and indeed the entire Republican Party believe:
“Man is depraved and prone to sin and no mere institutional arrangements can entirely avoid the consequences of this alleged fact. Character is thus far more important than environment…The efforts at social reform, or economic amelioration, were misguided efforts as they sought to achieve the wrong objectives. Any philosophy…based upon an assumed goodness of man, or the idea of perpetual and inevitable human progress…-in a word Jeffersonian democracy- was bound to lead man only to catastrophe, for such a philosophy was built upon false assumptions. Every society was in actuality ruled by leaders; what was needed was a higher type of leadership. Majority rule was no formula for a moral system of government for it only declared that numerical might meant right…it was necessary to establish the right kind of leadership, which in turn required the frank recognition of the place of the natural aristocracy.’
(p. 494-495, ‘American Political Thought’, Alan Pendleton Grimes’)
Why do you think that the Republican politicians who have, themselves, a taxpayer funded health care system which gives them all the benefits they see fit to deny to America’s citizens have no qualms about lying, cheating and running propaganda to prevent those at the bottom from having some small fraction of the health care freely available to those at the top? It’s because Cantor and his kind believe they are ‘natural aristocrats’ and are therefore entitled to a much bigger slice of the pie than those who are not. The irony that the American colonists went to war with Britain to get the aristocracy off their backs only to have them climb back on under another guise is not lost on me. As for you Barbieque, you have been kept in the dark and fed bullshit and all you have to say is ‘Yum’.
Report thisBy omop, February 9, 2011 at 3:10 pm Link to this comment
Eric Cantor is showing some good old “chutzpah” for the Republicans as well his
main man Bibi in Israel.
Blocking funding for AMERICANS but insisting on keep if not increasing aid to
Israel.
No wonder the US of A is acquiring the motto of a “banana republic”.
Report thisBy Jimnp72, February 9, 2011 at 3:00 pm Link to this comment
the sewer scum should forsake his own taxpayer sponsored cadillac health
Report thisinsurance. what a freaking hypocrite!
By berniem, February 9, 2011 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment
This grinning baboon makes my skin crawl almost as much as Santorum!
Report thisBy BarbieQue, February 9, 2011 at 8:57 am Link to this comment
Forget about these stupid “parties” for a minute. Just one minute.
Anyone and everyone that cares about our Republic and the limits the Constitution places on the Federal Government should remember that a few politicians want to use the statement called the Commerce Clause to be interpreted so widely as to permit the Federal Government the power to force every citizen in the Country to buy health insurance from a for profit company or face a fine and harassment from the IRS.
FROM Article I, section 8 of the US Constitution:
>>>“To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;...”
That’s it. One line. That’s the commerce clause. If the Feds want to do things not listed in Article 1, Section 8 they can amend the constitution. Like they did with alcohol. Or they can twist the English language into an Orwellian pile of legalistic crap and tell you that only a Yale lawyer can understand it, while that lawyer calls you a freeloader for not paying $400/ mo to a for profit company.
Many posters here don’t even seem to understand the whole concept of “Enumerated Powers” at all. Can the Feds make you buy whatever they want if they have 60 votes? Really? Why haven’t they done that before?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumerated_powers
A re-write of the tax code, which has hardly been fully discussed by WE THE PEOPLE (presumably the Major Media thinks we’re too stupid?) has happened and many people are disgusted that some of us are not going to buy into this expansion of the Commerce Clause.
These are the very people that would rant, rave, protest and riot if and when the “(R)epublicans” go on to interpret this clause even more widely. And if SCOTUS says the feds can order you to buy things do you REALLY THINK the “(R)“‘s are going to ignore this power, with sharks and vultures we all call “lobbyists” hovering around the swamp?
This is how a Republic turns into an Empire.
At least you have a ring side seat, and when your grandkid runs into a spot of bad luck and money is tight and the IRS wants to know why they haven’t paid their $400 to Wellpoint last month you can say you watched it happen.
And if you supported this horrendous piece of fascist crap, hopefully that grandkid will steal the premium money from you.
Once again, lets remember how Nancy Pelosi responded to a question about where the Federal Government gets the authority to do what it has never been done before:
When Asked Where the Constitution Authorizes Congress to Order Americans To Buy Health Insurance, Pelosi Says: ‘Are You Serious?’
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55971
Apart from the bill, the most disappointing thing about this fascist assault is that so very few people have even asked where the government gets the authority to mandate the purchase of any damn thing.
Report thisEveryone that supports Obamas mandate would have surely supported a mandate passed by a Republican congress, right?
By diamond, February 9, 2011 at 5:51 am Link to this comment
“his GOP House squad”? Don’t you mean his GOP death squad. They are the real death panel.
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