If Outraged is suggesting that it is likely the Bush administration is responsible for creating the counterfeit/forged Niger documents, I agree; they forged them, hid them under a rock, and pretended to find them.

Three cheers for the Washington Post!  First the Walter Reed mess, now this.  And, lest it be forgotten, it was the Washington Post that started the ball rolling that ultimately brought down Richard Nixon.

This story is an example of why I don’t believe that Bush was just a dupe in the presentation of this bogus material. There is no reason to believe that Cheney was not informed. We know that Bush/Cheney and Rumsfield both wanted invasion of Iraq regardless of the truth. So even if they didn’t know the exact details of their “proof”, they had to know it had been cooked to their taste. It was their duty to know if the material was bogus or not. I will never be convinced that they didn’t know from the beginning that they were getting custom made material to support their desire and then they made a botch of the whole thing. Why have they not been impreached and convicted?

It’s nice that so amny people now believe that Bush had lied or misled the country and that the Iraq war is a mistake when at the begining of the war about 705 if I am not mistaken were strongly in favor of bombing an innocent Nation. I say to all who have supported this war in one way or another that you have blood on your hand. Although the stains may be washed away, the memory that you helped a mad man bring so much misery to Millions of People--today about 4 million Iraqis are refugees in the neighboring country and another 1 million have internally displaced because of the war or because of the insecurity that it has brought onto an entire Nation. Talk about a weapon of Mass Destruction. I think the Iraqi people know very well who and what a weapon of Mass destruction is. I think the 3200 or so American families who have lost their loved ones for an imperial adventure, also understand who has destroyed their lives. I hope you never forget that memory and I hope it will haunt you for the rest of your days so that you may tell as many people (friends, family, coworkers, relatives, etc) that they should never make the same mistake that you did. That they should never scumb to patrio-Fascist Group-think. That they use their brains and not their emotions and fears when deciding whether to support a thing like War, especially an unneccessary, immoral, unjust and utterally criminal war as the one in Iraq.

16 WORDS against Bush case for war

Intrigue, lies, conspiracy, secrecy, sureptitious, untruths, illegal, obfuscation, distraction, abusesiveness, arrogance, indifference, meaness, madness, hysteria, undiplomatic . . .

This information was covered verbatim in the book “Hubris”. I’m surprised it is still being reported on by the mass media. What is funny is that Dick Cheney is still in denial about this incident. If the Democrats were in control of Congress during this period of time, hearings on this issue may have been possible. The Republican’s basically gave Bush a blank check to use any pretense to go to war.

Eventually this episode will take its place alongside the Gulf of Tonkin as examples of “manufactured” evidence as reasons for going to war. Iraq now takes its place alongside Vietnam serving as bookends for failed foreign policy. Two failed presidents from Texas!

It’s amazing that no one in Congress, never mind the bought and paid for supposedly left wing media has ever asked who authored any of the fabrications that this administration has tried to pass off as truth.  They must all fall out of the sky and immediately become gospel. I guess none of our elected lemmings have the power of free thought and ask any questions. It’s what our public servants call serving the public - rare.

Chaney wanted to go to war and 9/11 was the excuse they needed.

The administration should be kicked out of office, Impeachment should start now!

Margaret from Vancouver, Washington

We know Bush lied.
he doesn’t care how many people die.

Seems funny to me that “NO ONE KNOWS” who made the phony documents in the first place.  Hmmm.....  Now, who would do something like that?.....  Gee..I wonder where to look first?....  Hmmm....  that’s just downright perplexing ain’t it!

The Washington Post story is implausible in a way that suggests a deliberate coverup by the Post of what really happened.

For example:

(1) The Post tells us that the Italian journalist Burbeta’s source agreed to give her the papers - not copies but the originals - for free and let her check them out first, before deciding whether or not to pay him for them. Awfully nice of him wasn’t it? Wouldn’t most people say, “Look: you pay me now, or I take this stuff to your competitors, and you will miss the scoop”?

(2) The Post tells us that it was easy to determine that the papers were bogus after a simple internet search; but then it tells us that Burbeta had no idea how to determine whether they were genuine, and so finally hit on the idea of letting the Americans - who were known to be very eager to find a pretext for war against Iraq - check them out for her. This makes no sense, if she’s a legitimate journalist.

Isn’t it more likely that whoever forged these papers WANTED them to end up as part of the US case for war against Iraq? Isn’t it, then, likely that Burbeta and her “source” willingly participated - either for money or for ideological reasons - in a conspiracy to help the Bush and Sharon governments make their case for a war against Iraq?

I never understood why the Niger uranium story
was significant even if it were true.
Iraq already had hundreds of tons of yellowcake
locked up in the Al Tuwaitha nuclear facility
which they were unable to use to make bombs because they had no equipment or facilities to enrich it.
So what difference would it make if they bought 500 more tons of useless yellowcake?
The whole story was designed to scare people who nothing about the basic processes of making weapons grade uranium and our illustrious
nuclear physics experts never made any attempt to educate the public on what a bunch of baloney this was.

Since no improvement is being made on the Iraq War, we need to spend our resources on other issues such as global poverty in order to discourage more terrorism and wars.  According to the Borgen Project, in reality only .16% of our federal budget is spent on poverty reduction, the least among wealthy nations.  We should let our representatives know that we want change.

16 words are too much for a no-brainy man. Only 1 word will be enough that’s “lie” !

Never before has -16- words had such a dramatic effect on an entire nation, particularly 3200+ brave, but gravely misled young men/women.

Impeach the motherfuckers!

He occupies the highest office in the land and the chances of his being held accountable for it is slim.  If this would have happened in say some corporation of America, the guy would be tried and executed.  We as citizens of this world watch daily how we are treated by those who rule us.  Can we get by with it in our daily lives and survive?  Not likely.  I for one would like to see the Democrats pursue an Impeachment and kick him out of office along with his cronies.  It is time to start off on a new path.

Lies, deception, secrecy, manipulation all seem to be some of the main methods of operation of the Bush-Cheney administration.

Maybe all politics and government operations are like this ... but the current administration seems to carry them out with a frightening and dark expertise.

At first, many people felt this was a good way to threaten and attack our adversaries. Now, many Americans seem to realize that we, too, are targets of the current administration.

More on this at:

“Intelligence, psychology and human heart: All are needed for success in war and peace”

PopulistAmerica.com
Populist Party of America
March 31, 2007

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