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Antidepressant Nation

Posted on Jul 14, 2011
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A serious conversation is under way in the United States on the subject of psychiatric drugs. The debate consists of three fundamental issues: first, whether antidepressants actually treat depression; second, the vast, growing body of evidence that psychotropic medications alter the brain permanently; and third, the pharmaceutical industry’s continuing, decades-old corruption of American psychiatrists, many of whom have been made by drug companies’ shenanigans into little more than handsomely paid industry shills.

A careful questioning of these issues written by the spectacularly decorated Harvard Medical School lecturer Dr. Marcia Angell appeared as a two-part essay published earlier this summer in The New York Review of Books. In addition to holding a medical degree from Boston University School of Medicine and undergraduate diplomas in both chemistry and mathematics, Angell is a Fulbright Scholar, a board-certified pathologist, author of two books, a member of numerous professional health care associations and a retired 20-year staffer at the New England Journal of Medicine, which she ultimately left as editor-in-chief.

The recent publication of three books, each of which takes up one of the issues raised above, provided the occasion for Angell’s essay. In it, she argues convincingly that antidepressants are not known to do what drug companies and many psychiatrists say they do. It is this claim that drew the attention of practicing psychiatrist and Brown University professor Dr. Peter D. Kramer, who in a New York Times commentary published last Sunday questioned some but not all of what Dr. Angell wrote.

Both articles deserve to be read, but there is a crucial difference between them. While Kramer points to much data that must be taken seriously, his wandering defense of the utility of antidepressants does not undo the diligent, methodical inquiry one would expect from someone with Angell’s credentials—and which she delivers. Otherwise, he too is a critic of Big Pharma’s shady dealings. Kramer nods with genuine concern toward the dangers associated with the prolonged use of psychotropics and, in his conclusion, expresses support for treatment via effective alternatives. Both professionals agree that serious research needs to be done to understand exactly what these drugs are doing. —ARK

Marcia Angell in The New York Review of Books:

Nowadays treatment by medical doctors nearly always means psychoactive drugs, that is, drugs that affect the mental state. In fact, most psychiatrists treat only with drugs, and refer patients to psychologists or social workers if they believe psychotherapy is also warranted. The shift from “talk therapy” to drugs as the dominant mode of treatment coincides with the emergence over the past four decades of the theory that mental illness is caused primarily by chemical imbalances in the brain that can be corrected by specific drugs. That theory became broadly accepted, by the media and the public as well as by the medical profession, after Prozac came to market in 1987 and was intensively promoted as a corrective for a deficiency of serotonin in the brain. The number of people treated for depression tripled in the following ten years, and about 10 percent of Americans over age six now take antidepressants. The increased use of drugs to treat psychosis is even more dramatic. The new generation of antipsychotics, such as Risperdal, Zyprexa, and Seroquel, has replaced cholesterol-lowering agents as the top-selling class of drugs in the US.

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By Publius, August 16, 2011 at 7:24 pm Link to this comment
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I agree that the system is inverted for the sake of the pharmaceutical and health care
lobbies. Plus late capitalism produces a lot of our mental illnesses. But if weren’t for
Lexapro, I would not get out of bed for months. Where does that leave me?. Enslaved
to the masters who anesthetize me, or liberated from a genetic chemical imbalance?

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By spooz, July 17, 2011 at 8:24 am Link to this comment
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The thing that makes me most angry is the drugging of
innocent children.  If kids were taught yoga and
relaxation instead of competitive sports, maybe they
would feel calm enough to sit still in desks for
hours on end.  Some of them, mostly boys, will still
need to get up an walk around more often than the
others.  Is there any way to accommodate them without
forcing them into chemical straight jackets and a
lifetime of dealing with mental illness? 

Perhaps there are some specific uses for these drugs,
like the post-stroke recovery study.  But the
overreach of modern psychology into creating
disorders for every difference in human behavior is
corrupt, like so many other things these days.

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By THX 1133 is not in the movie..., July 17, 2011 at 1:26 am Link to this comment

Here’s Al Jazeera’s take on it; pretty good actually.

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By Psychobabbler, July 15, 2011 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment

I’d say from personal experience that depression, clinical vs. non-clinical is often a symptom of something that is not in the book that dictates treatments.

Alternative Psychotherapy social worker interventions (uninvited) can be extremely troubling to a paranoid person.

There are many mentioningings of placebo in these articles. Placebo effects can only be administered intentionally to the unaware (aka sick) people who tend to be considered ‘sane’. (ie everyone except me etc.)

Speaking of Placebo, it might just be comforting for some people who are overwhelmed to think that someone has all of the answers to their worries (religion does this).

disclaimer: Bless all of the sweet hearts who are healing from their pills.

I often obsess in the most likely cure for most American depression as mentioned by Jim Pharo.


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By D.R. Zing, July 15, 2011 at 7:42 pm Link to this comment


I’m not sure what I want to say here. First, allow me to offer compassion and friendship—a kind of cyber handshake where we exchange a bit of information and goodwill. 

My understanding of OCD is vague at best, but I do know it can be an utterly horrid disorder that is, without medication, at once tortuous and uncontrollable.

In my rant below, I rail about over prescribing antidepressants to people who are not clinically depressed. OCD is in a completely different ballpark. I apologize for anything in my rant that may have offended you.   

There is a series of books by Orson Scott Card:

Ender’s Game
Speaker for the Dead
Children of the Mind
Ender’s Shadow
Shadow of the Hegemon
Shadow Puppets
Shadow of the Giant
Ender in Exile

I believe it is the book Children of the Mind—but not sure—that gives a fairly good description of what people suffer in various stages of untreated obsessive compulsive disorder. Perhaps you have read the series or might enjoy it at some time.   

All the best. Do what you can to find peace. 

D.R. Zing

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By prisnersdilema, July 15, 2011 at 4:58 pm Link to this comment

well sodv…...once again anecdotal evidence is not definitive…your case seems pretty
typical in many ways… Multiple meds tweaked, and tweaked again…..

Personal experience is often little more than a delusion, because there is no association
between personal experience and truth… People for hundreds of years believed that the
earth was the center of the universe, man millions of man hours of that experience
verified that experience to be true…until science proved that not to be true this is why
we rely on science…that these drugs cause brain damage has been demonstrated

Your life may have been hell without these drugs and I can guarantee you that it still is
physiologically, only now your unconscious of it, thats what these drugs due increase
your unconsciousness, it’s this down regulation that is measured….

It’s easy to function in pain when your unconscious, but don’t confuse that with a cure,
you are still hurting only now mentally you don’t know it…but the body never lies..and in
the end tolerance, and more tweaking will develop…until there comes a day when all
that’s left is ECT and the oblivion express…

I’ve known crack heads with $25,000 dollar a month habits who felt they functioned as
well as god, but the day comes when their down on the floor doing the fish, in lots of
pain…no more drug fueled delusion…now their feeling what the felt all along…now that
it’s no long unconscious…

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By Joe Mahmah, July 15, 2011 at 4:36 pm Link to this comment
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It’s about time! As someone who was on anti-depressants for over 10 years, I can tell you that I will never be the ‘old me’. I can also tell you that I had tried so many because I thought they were some sort of miracle pill that would put me back to my ‘pre-accident state’. This couldn’t be farther from the truth. I was numb! No pain, no anger, no love, no hate, no passion…nothing. Not to mention the side effects, which had to be treated with more drugs, which caused more side effects…you get the idea. I went from depressed, to depressed with anxiety attacks. Prescribed another medication for anxiety and suddenly I was OCD with high blood pressure. Prescribed MORE medications and the list went on. A little over a year ago, I went off of EVERYTHING (against the advice but with the monitoring of my physician). Within the first few weeks, I could remember things (I had horrible short-term memory loss), things were clearer, I could think more than 2 steps ahead. I wasn’t shaky, blood pressure returned to normal. I still have some OCD but nothing that I can’t live with. I will never let anyone tell me anti-depressants are good for me again! (Although this was a good step for me, please do not do anything involving your medications against the advice of your physcian.)

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By LadyR, July 15, 2011 at 3:52 pm Link to this comment
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Thank you, Sodovka!

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By Sodovka, July 15, 2011 at 11:31 am Link to this comment
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I have to jump in here. Let’s put aside the matter of whether our healthcare system is terrible (it is) and whether therapists have a role to play in recovery (they do). Let’s talk about the effects these drugs have on the lives of real people.

Here’s my experience: As a person with OCD, I’ve been taking antidepressants (Imipramine, Zoloft, Celexa, and now Paxil) for the past 16 years. I will never claim the drugs have no side effects, though mine seem to be minor. Likewise, I will never claim that they are appropriate for all people or at all times. However, I can personally attest that my life on them has been relatively healthy and happy while the times in my life during which I was not taking antidepressants have been among the most horrible periods I’ve ever experienced—think near-suicidal depression and out-of-control anxiety.

So please, please don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Many of us out here depend on these drugs to keep us alive.

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By prisnersdilema, July 15, 2011 at 10:50 am Link to this comment

No Ladyr, there any many here have had long histories of involvement with anti
depressants, and those drugs made there lives a living hell.

Quite frankly, anecdotal evidence proves nothing. What’s most important is the science
indicating that these drugs cause brain damage. It is this brain damage that causes,
down regulation, dis function measured as efficacy.

During clinical trials some of this drugs produce a significant number of suicidal
reactions in patients. So they were only supposed to be used as adjunctive treatments
with other medications but big pharma got around this.

My own experience with this medications is they seem to work initially for some patients,
but as the damage they do adds up over time. There is a need to keep tweaking them,
until they eventually stop working all together. When the shit hits the fan ECT comes
next, then vegetable land.

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By LadyR, July 15, 2011 at 9:30 am Link to this comment
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Unless you have suffered from clinical depression, or worse, and have had your condition arrested and HELPED by antidepressants, you have NO authority to claim that these drugs are evil or ineffectual to treat said condition.  I know wherefore I speak, unlike those who do not suffer from such pathologies.  The antidepressant I am on, Zoloft, is a miracle drug. Yes, a miracle drug, for before I was officially diagnosed with depression, I was helpless to forstall any depression cycles.  I would likely be dead today by my own hand if my doctor had not been doing his job and noticed my symptoms.  Antipressants literally saved my life. I pray God that I will never be denied such a wonder drug by the medical community and/or government due to foolish notions by others.

Think before you speak nonsense.  For those who have had adverse effects from these drugs, it is obvious that the right drug was not given to you and yours.  Sometimes a person may have to try several types before the right one is found. This is literally a matter of life and death for the sufferers.

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By Ufotofu9, July 15, 2011 at 9:29 am Link to this comment
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I read these articles when they were first published in the NY Review of Books. It
absolutely shook my world, and started me thinking much more critically about
the giant trend of antidepressant-and especially adding antipsychotics-use in the
U.S, especially amongst children!
Her articles are a must read, and I don’t use that word lightly.

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By Jim Pharo, July 15, 2011 at 8:20 am Link to this comment

I think Angell’s piece is pretty compelling—and yes, she does consider the many
anecdotal reports of drugs making a difference in people’s lives.  It’s all in the
article and well worth a read.

I’m struck by a potential correlation between the widespread use of these
chemicals and the apparent deep apathy of so many people as to the state of their
lives.  People lack income security, housing security, even food security, and yet
seem inclined to just accept these conditions.  Seniors in Europe are rioting over
proposed pension cuts.  Not only do we have no rioting, we have about half the
people insisting that they absolutely must make do with less.

Coincidence? Probably, but I’d love to hear of any evidence on this…

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By California Ray, July 15, 2011 at 7:03 am Link to this comment

Try Valium cigarettes—the smoke of the stars.

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I’ll opt for the Patron and kind bud.
There now, see; a perfect example of the natural
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Cannabis ..... you fill in the blank. Cheers.

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By PatrickHenry, July 15, 2011 at 2:11 am Link to this comment

I’ll opt for the Patron and kind bud.

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By D.R. Zing, July 14 at 8:17 pm Link to this comment
@California Ray

No offense guy.  But you’re fucked in the head.

Don’t get me wrong. Opium should be decriminalized
but anyone addicted to it who is not in chronic pain
should have but one goal:  To get the fuck off of it.
That was un-necessarily rude, especially given you’re
for having it decriminalized.
That said; methadone is for all practical terms
opium. It is currently used (as you no doubt know) to
get people off of street heroine. Unfortunately it is
far more addictive than the heroine the street addict
uses. The withdrawal rate for methadone is abysmal
because like opium it is a 24 hour “fix”, whereas
street heroine is good for 6-8 hours at best.
Holland is the only country I’m aware of with any
genuine success in lowering the age of heroine
addicts and the lame U.S. programs are an abject
When one adds up the over-all U.S. government
programs for drug abuse abatement, it becomes
abundantly clear it’s a total failure.
Quite simply the programs are not aimed at drug
abuse, but rather the use of non-approved drugs
(conveniently labeled illegal).
When hypocrisy ceases; true solutions can be
implemented. Cheers.

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By cripes, July 14, 2011 at 11:29 pm Link to this comment

Observing the effects of these drugs on my brother and sister, I argued for years that the drugs, in fact, were causing more illness than they cured. Twenty years later, my sister has been a lifelong guinea pig and is at constant risk of suicide and hospitalizations, her weight bouncing from 150-300 lbs

My brother has managed his symptoms largely without the drugs. He is functioning reasonably well considering his history, without incident.

Psychiatry has perpetrated a vicious fraud on the public, not so different from their electroshock and cold-bath therapies. Except the destructive effects may last longer.

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By daniel haszard, July 14, 2011 at 10:11 pm Link to this comment
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Eli Lilly Zyprexa,Risperdal and Seroquel same saga

The use of powerful antipsychotic drugs has increased in children as young as three years old. Weight gain, increases in triglyceride levels and associated risks for diabetes and cardiovascular disease.
The average weight gain (adults) over the 12 week study period was the highest for Zyprexa—17 pounds. You’d be hard pressed to gain that kind of weight sport-eating your way through the holidays.
One in 145 adults died in clinical trials of those taking the antipsychotic drugs Zyprexa. This is Lilly’s # 1 product over $ 4 billion year sales,moreover Lilly also make billions on drugs that treat the diabetes often that has been caused by the zyprexa!
Daniel Haszard Zyprexa victim activist and patient who got diabetes from it.

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By darkcycle, July 14, 2011 at 8:20 pm Link to this comment
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I’m with you all the way, D.R. Zing, almost. With the principle of “least invasive procedure” in mind, the first order of therapy for depression should be good, old fashioned (and out of fashion) 1:1 COUNSELING WITH A QUALIFIED AND EXPERIENCED PSYCHOLOGIST. Not to shout, but the techniques that work to treat depression in the long term are internal/behavioral and can be taught and encouraged under the right therapeutic regimen. None if the anti-depressant medications were intended for long term use when released. Doctors needed convincing to get them to use SSRI’s long term. All the original testing is and was in acute cases. The side effects and the toxicity of these meds should preclude long term use. But the profit motive of the pharmaceuticals won out.

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By D.R. Zing, July 14, 2011 at 7:17 pm Link to this comment

@California Ray

No offense guy.  But you’re fucked in the head. 

Don’t get me wrong. Opium should be decriminalized but anyone addicted to it who is not in chronic pain should have but one goal:  To get the fuck off of it. 

Opiates destroy your body’s ability to experience natural joy and after a while opiates stop working. You no longer get high and the amount it would take to get you high would also stop your heart and lungs, at which point taking opiates only makes you severely depressed, which in turn makes you start thinking that stopping your heart and lungs just might be a good idea after all. 

So again. I’m with you in hating the war on drugs, on despising pharmaceutical companies. But advocating the imbibing of opiates for recreation is a stupid fucking thing to do. 

Sorry, man. I just can’t go along with that.

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By D.R. Zing, July 14, 2011 at 7:05 pm Link to this comment

To kerryrose,

You gave a wonderful gift to your son. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. 

D.R. Zing

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By D.R. Zing, July 14, 2011 at 6:57 pm Link to this comment

“Who cares what psychiatrists write on walls!”

          —12 Monkeys

One can only hope that at some point psychiatrists will no longer treat mental illness and neurologists will.

Psychiatry has been corrupted not only by the pharmaceutical companies but also by the military.  Naomi Klein notes in her book The Shock Doctrine:  The Rise of Disaster Capitalism that psychiatrists performed the initial research for the torture techniques that eventually metastasized in Guantanamo Bay. 

On the pharmaceutical side, it’s a well known fact—a given among psychiatrists—that antidepressants are used not only to treat depression but also to diagnose other disorders.  Give a patient antidepressants, he goes manic, then he must be bipolar. Keep giving the antidepressant, add bipolar meds to the mix and then when he goes totally apeshit administer a regular dose of Klonopin—an e-vile drug, in the same benzo family as Xanax, terribly addictive. 

Never mind that the patient may not have needed the antidepressants in the first place. Here’s a fact, if you’ve never been seriously depressed in your life, and you get a divorce or your spouse dies or your house burns down or you lose your job and can’t get another one: 


Sorry to scream. 

You don’t need antidepressants; you need the depression to give you an acute perception of reality; it helps you figure out how to get the fuck out of the terrible situation you’re in. 

Ahem.  All the drugs mentioned above cause terrible dependencies. You’re not going to rob a drugstore to get your Lexapro, but you’re gonna shit yourself for a month if you stop taking it all at once. 

And Klonopin—it is flat out addictive.  If you’ve been taking large doses for years, Klonopin can cause fatal withdrawals. Fatal delirium tremens, much like alcohol delirium tremens where you go into convulsions and you sometimes die, even when receiving medical treatment. 

Psychiatrists know all this and some care, some don’t give a fuck, and some care and feel guilty but they’ve got their Mercedes and their house in the gated community and the kids in college and their sophisticated whores in penthouses and they do it anyway. 

This is not to say clinical depression does not exist. It does and it is a ravaging mental illness.  But it should be treated and studied by neurologists, who run honest-to-God medical clinics, who order MRIs and take a deep look inside your brain to see what’s going on before dispensing a chemical lobotomy and a life of drug dependency, who draw blood and figure out what kind of dope you’re taking on the sly before they start handing out pills like fucking Halloween trick or treats. 

Squeeze my balls harder, you sonsabitches. It is personal, you fuckers.  Prescribing antidepressants and anti-psychotic drugs to people with Asperger syndrome is a crime against humanity.  Einstein and Newton would have never advanced humanity and science as they did if you miserable fucks had got your hands on them. 


Got a little carried away.  All apologies.  Again the points:

* Move from psychiatry to neurology.

* While psychiatry is still leeching away at us, require that all psychiatrists operate medical doctor offices, with a full nursing and lab staff, and take blood from every patient and test for other mind altering chemicals before they prescribe their pharmaceutical leeches. 

* Peace and love to everyone except psychiatrists—who can all go fuck yourselves.

And by the way, no offense to any sophisticated whores out there in penthouses. I love you all so much.

And now, for my next “Brad Pitt playing a monkey” impersonation—

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By THX 1133 is not in the movie..., July 14, 2011 at 6:42 pm Link to this comment

In this day and age; anybody who isn’t depressed is
in serious denial.
The trend towards medicating has grown exponentially
over the last 30 years. I would guess it’s mostly the
economic expediency that is responsible for this
because most people cannot afford one-to-one counseling. The result is over prescribing on a
massive scale.
While I do agree that for some (few) anti-depressants
may be a necessity; for the majority there are
natural remedies; friends, communities (I know, not
many left), herbs (pot is just one possibility)), and
things like meditation.
I think it’s a sad measure of our society and does
not bode well for our future that so many are
crippled by mental health issues:
Physician, heal thyself and do no harm…

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By Psychobabbler, July 14, 2011 at 1:38 pm Link to this comment

There is no such thing as a happy pill.

Even with overwhelming evidence that psychiatrists are running a racket with their pharmaceutical friends that is essentially chemically lobotomizing so many people unnecessarily, they will continue to do exactly that until they find a more profitable alternative.

I recommend opting out unless you are considering cannibalism.

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By kerryrose, July 14, 2011 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment

When my son was 8 years old the principal of his school wanted me to have him evaluated for certain personality quirks that he was exhibiting in class.  (picking up a chair at a teacher who was berating him for something in music class).

I chose to do so outside of school and took him to a pediatric psychiatrist at a well-known teaching hospital who determined in one short meeting that my little son needed a very specific anti-psychotic drug (whose name I don’t remember).  I went home and Googled the drug.  I found out that it was not approved the FDA for use by children.  I realized that my son was a guinea pig to show clinical results to get the numbers to get the drug passed.

I defered in an impolite way to the esteemed doctor.  It turns out my son has Asperger’s Syndrome, and only needed social skills therapy.  (which never worked by the way, at 12 he is still not a social butterfly and won’t say ‘hello’ to you if he doesn’t feel like it.)

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By prisnersdilema, July 14, 2011 at 10:46 am Link to this comment

Anti depressants create the very symptoms they are supposed to treat so how would
one really know?  Don’t kid yourself depression is made much worse by interventions
that compound Symptoms and decrease brain functioning. First hand experience
indicates that anti depressants trigger manic symptoms that can lead to violent, un
controlled out bursts. Long term use can result in severe impairment, as well as severe
intractable Symptoms that do not respond to any sort of treatment at all. Dysfunction in
the approval process and political manipulation at FDA is the primary issue, these drugs
should have never been approved. I repeat never.

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By question, July 14, 2011 at 10:46 am Link to this comment
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It’s lovely that these questions are being raised lately in relation to one set of drugs, but it applies to MOST drugs.  And Big Pharma’s shady dealings are supported by many, if not most, doctors.  Every single time I go to my GP for blood work to monitor the 4 prescriptions he already has me on, he writes a couple more prescriptions & jokes about how I have fewer prescriptions than any of his other patients my age.  That’s because every time I get home I throw them out.  Cholesterol drugs are currently the rage & prescription based Vitamin D supplements.  Why is that?  Chemicals are killing the planet, the water, the food supply & humans.  Some drugs are miracles & life savers, but many are simply a means of profit for the creators, the dispensers, the wholesalers & the Congress critters who entertain lobbyists.

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By California Ray, July 14, 2011 at 10:45 am Link to this comment

Regarding politics, imagine if the laws were changed so that people could legally grow and smoke their own opium. Do you think the big drug companies would fight tooth and nail to prevent people from taking the edge off with a bit of home-grown opium?
In the realm of science fiction, imagine that the opium poppy genome has been decoded and that, through recombinant DNA technology, one can grow unlimited quantities of opium-containing carrots, apples, tomatoes, etc.

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By upgradeyourlife, July 14, 2011 at 10:17 am Link to this comment

Is marijuana against the law in part because it would replace many of these meds?

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By TDoff, July 14, 2011 at 10:17 am Link to this comment

While this topic may not seem to have a political aspect, consider this: Suppose someone possessed by a brain permanently, disastrously altered by psychotropic drugs, were to hallucinate that she would make a prefect POTUS. And suppose that this once-in-a-millenia fantasy were to occur to not one, but two witches, independently and simultaneously. And further suppose that fate has gone as completely off-the-rails as these two, and that one of these two psychettes became POTUS!

The sale and use of anti-depressants would understandably skyrocket, thus producing an entire nation of severely, permanently brain-damaged, perfectly qualified and avidly sought recruits for the GOP/TP party.

So be aware, beware, and take care when you vote.

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By Kim, July 14, 2011 at 9:25 am Link to this comment
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Alternatives would be great but most health insurance
companies offer little to nothing other than

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By Bronwen Rowlands, July 14, 2011 at 9:23 am Link to this comment
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Oh for Christ’s sake. Antidepressants save lives. Have either Marcia Angell or Alexander Kelly bothered to talk with people who have been successfully treated for depression with antidepressants?  Why, yes!  The drugs do change brain chemistry.  For the better.  The brain chemistry of those who are clinically depressed is very dangerous in its natural state.

Any first-hand experience with successful treatment of depression will show you this.

The fact that there is corruption and dysfunction in the US medical industry is a separate issue.

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By prisnersdilema, July 14, 2011 at 9:22 am Link to this comment

Antidepressants cause brain damage, it’s this brain damage that is being measured as
efficacy. This is a fact, then there Is also the potential for mania, since the drugs were
patterned after street drugs like cocaine and meth. The cognitive function of this whole
country has been down regulated, so some greed men can make lots of money.
Meanwhile the FDA wants to make supplements illegal, to get rid of any competition.
And congress is helping them do it.

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