The logic behind banning nail clippers escapes me.  I had a clip-on keychain tool kit taken. It was 1.5” long and unfolded into a 3” mini-pliers that had a screwdriver tip on one handle and a philips-head on the other.  Now I have some martial arts training and I can tell you that ANYTHING can be a weapon, especially trained hands and feet.  A broken glass in First Class is just as effective a weapon as the box-cutters used in the 9/11 hijackings.

Most of the reason for pat-downs and full body scans is because the policies and training of the CONTRACTORS at airports are, respectively, idiotic and woefully inadequate. So..instead of fixing what’s broken, they go for yet another intrusion of our privacy.

What? Nobody wants to give billionaire’s pockets an enhanced patdown?  I can’t believe it!

I’ve been taking flights of fancy ever since I became an enhanced pick-pocket enhancing security at LAX.  So far I’ve got enough to clean up Skid Row, provide public housing for all the indigents who used to reside there, and put six old women back in the emergency ward at Kaiser Memorial.
My next project is to raise teachers’ salaries by $100 a month throughout the U.S. of A just to see what will happen.  Any other ideas?

While fliers in other countries are often given amenities that include nail clippers/files by the airlines they are about to fly on, America has a mass hysteria about everything. Other countries do not seem to have the problems that we here are screaming about and they don’t check every nook and cranny of their passengers. Grow up America, the world had been watching and laughing at the how we frisk the customers and fleece them at the same time.

If we are not being hated by others, we are at least entertaining them with these antics.

Comment to security at airports: OHH, yeah, that feels good. MMMMMM harder, lower, that’s the spot, ahh ahh more. Perhaps more verbal moans and groans from those being touched at certain body places will put an end into this past paranoid practice. Any fliers willing to give it a shout?

ITW: I know what you mean about the touchy stuff. I don’t like it either. Seems as if this could end up in some lawsuits about improper groping and touching of passangers.

Xntrk, August 22 at 8:55 pm Link to this comment

Ok, I’ll ‘call you Roy’ - but only because TD would not appreciate the expletives I would use otherwise!
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I think “Die Hard” Wannabe is MUCH more effective.  He likes to think he’s Sgt. John McClain, blowing up bad guys.

One thing about a free society is that it allows guys like this fellow, DHW, to argue for the DESTRUCTION of that very same society that allows him to talk.

With the collapse of the Soviet Union and effective end to the threat (real or imagined) of Communism, the Right needed another Boogie-Man to panic ordinary Americans into giving up basic liberties—always part of their cause.  Now it’s Muslims (notice that “Islamofascists” has quietly exited the lexicon).

This pat-down technique is a scam to get people to accept the full-body scanners instead.  Recently (as in July) I was “randomly selected” for an additional security scan, probably due to all my subversive postings here at TD.  I could choose between a physical pat-down and search or a full-body scan.  I opted for the scan—I don’t like being touched by strangers. 

Was my privacy invaded? Well, yes, but I figured anyone looking at MY scan got what they deserved. If it caused a few of them to up-chuck, so much the better!

But is it effective? Re-thugs like DHW will say it does, without any evidence to support it.

I guess he never heard Ben Franklin’s statement that those who give up liberty to get security will lose both and deserve neither.

Oh, I forgot—In Texas they are getting rid of such “subversives”—like Thomas Jefferson.  The only thing more ridiculous would be Virginia getting rid of Jefferson.

By Xntrk, August 22 at 8:55 pm
Well said.

call me Roy
“Now, at first glance I know most Americans won’t believe how simple this is because we have to listen to a bunch of pudknocker politicians and lame stream news people whine and gasp like a bunch of Hollywood actors, directors, and hair dressers.”

Really? Actually I think your comments would probably go over pretty well with the majority of idiots living here who would rather see our society go backwards by a few hundred years.

Heil mein Fuhrer,

I have bad news for you: it looks like the ACLU has failed to accomplish those 45
goals read by that great Florida Democrat in 1963. And Communism is not too
popular. I say, let’s move on.

Saw a cartoon from the comics called Closer to Home. In one they had a man striding through the airport security scanning doorway butt naked, arms opened wide and wearing a big smile. The attendants looked shocked. Well it’s about to that now, just wonder what the date picked to implement totally naked passenger check-ins before being allowed to board the planes.No touching necessary.

On the other hand, lets hope they don’t have many overly sexually sensitive people being patted down in this new way as it may lead to other problems that may ARISE.

Ok, I’ll ‘call you Roy’ - but only because TD would not appreciate the expletives I would use otherwise!

My first question is whether or not your shrink has released for public speaking? Your comments [the 3 so far] are so lacking in rational thought that I have to assume you are the end result of a public school education sometime in the past 20 years. Or, alternatively,  that you fried your brain with LSD in the sixties.

TSA and the Department of Insecurity has ignored and violated the Bill of Rights in every possible way in the past 9 years. Our telephone conversations are monitored, our e-mail and any private banking and monetary information is regularly scanned for forbidden words and thoughts. Public, peaceful demonstrations are banned at the convenience of the local cops. Spy cameras monitor our every move outside our homes. Satellite images are checked to ensure crimes didn’t occur when the photo was taken. Cops can now scan and record the license plates of hundreds of cars in parking lots and on public streets in a minute, check for any outstanding tickets, and record the number and owners name - forever. This not only tells the authorities about the bad guys, but gives them even further info about my travel and spending habits - what they don’t already know from my credit card and debit card files.

Daring to travel by air subjects me to a dangerous [I assume you are aware that radiation is dangerous] and and revealing full-body scans, exposing my body to the obscene minds of the morons they hire to do the screening. Or, I can let them feel me up, if I would rather.

Can there be any question that this is being instituted to keep people from refusing the titillating body scan?

As for safety, the same idiots who get their jollies off harassing people in wheelchairs and travelers with babies, are the same ones that let the 9-11 criminals to board 5 different planes carrying box-cutters [illegally], while listed on the FBI’s ‘Watch Out For List.

The ‘Undies Bomber’ didn’t have a visa and his father had alerted our authorities of his danger - But, TSA had no problem letting him board the plane in Paris.

And you have the gall to blame the Civil Liberties Union for our problems? It’s one thing if you are happy to drink the Governments Cool Aide, but please, leave the rest of us alone!

skulz:

I think he might actually have said “tits and pricks.”

Every day, the headlines scream with some new threat from the American Civil Liberties Union. I believe it’s important to look behind the curtain and discover the origins of groups and organizations to better understand their activities.
The ACLU was founded in the 1920s by Roger Baldwin and Crystal Eastman, described as a “progressive” and “the perfect feminist.”
Earl Browder was general secretary of the Communist Party of the United States from 1930 through its dissolution in 1944. When the party was reconstituted as the Communist Political Association later that year, Browder was chosen as its president. Browder proudly proclaimed that the ACLU functioned as “a transmission belt” for the party. To deny the ACLU’s founding was attached at the hip to communist organizations is to deny what can easily be proven as truth.
For the past few decades, the ACLU has been on a major crusade to destroy Christianity in America, promote filth under “freedom of speech and expression,” and of course, vigorously defend the homosexual culture of death. On Jan. 10, 1963, Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr., D-Fla., read a list of 45 communist goals into the Congressional Record. Below are the communist goals being implemented by the ACLU in their quest to destroy America’s culture and traditions:
* Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
* Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
* Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings,” substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.
* Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
* Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
* Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and television.
* Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural and healthy.”
* Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”
* Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
* Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of “the big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the communists took over. Obliterating the American past, with its antecedents in principles of freedom, liberty and private ownership is a major goal of the communists then and now.
* Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
* Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

Anyone who has been following the destructive path of the ACLU can easily see how effective these communist goals have been implemented to “promote democracy” and protect your “civil rights.” Lenin stated: “Communism alone is capable of providing really complete democracy.” (See Tucker, “The Lenin Anthology”). James Madison, known as the “Father of the Constitution” had something different to say about a democracy:
Democracy is the most vile form of government ... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention, have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property, and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.
Perhaps it’s time to recognize the ACLU as the American Communist Lawyers Union or the Anti-American Civil Liberties Union instead of their disingenuous “civil rights” stage name.

Let me solve this Airport Security problem for all of undecisive people who can’t decide what color toilet paper to buy. There should be one rule for flying in America. Now, at first glance I know most Americans won’t believe how simple this is because we have to listen to a bunch of pudknocker politicians and lame stream news people whine and gasp like a bunch of Hollywood actors, directors, and hair dressers. Here it is people: If you want to fly in America, you will get either a body scan, a pat down or a good old fashioned dog sniff. That’s it. If you don’t like this rule: take the bus, the train, or a cruise. Got it!
PS, if your Muslim and you don’t like this idea, don’t fly.
Now, wasn’t that easy?

Flash!  The Public Social Services Agency has suggested an enhanced pat-down of annual corporate profits as a less invasive way of achieving social justice than an outright revolution of the masses.
  The PSSA is supported in this idea by the American Civil Liberties Union whose president said: “This represents a non-offensive method of achieving some semblance of social justice in America, all without bloodshed and mayhem in the streets.”
  The first corporate profits pat-down will take place in an inauguration ceremony behind the Big Bull on Wall Street Christmas morning of this year.  President Obama, Secretary Geitner, and several Members of the Senate and the House with fiduciary skills will be available for photo opportunities and to sign autographs. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates will serve hot coffee and croissants to bystanders.

TSA goon Cletus Drooly was heard to remark, “we gits to grope tits!”