Yeah, but, Bj, so what????  We know plenty about “what is naturally happning all around us.”

Here’s a job for science.  Find out why so many people, men mostly, have a defect that makes them want to control everybody, everything and the world and then come up with a way to either rehabilitate them into socially responsible behaviour or exterminate them before they do damage. 

You’ll be hard-pressed to convince me that there is such a thing as real progress, either social or scientific.  Change, yes; progress, no.

I think i am dumber for having read this thread.  I didn’t really think that previously anyone would attempt to blame the destruction of the universe on scientists or even the chinese, but yep, it is there.  As well as some serious misunderstanding of the physics involved, and the uses for this thing.

Thank darwin you folks are not likely to actually try to do anything to try to stop these experiments.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2008/03/29/no-the-lhc-wont-destroy-the-earth/

I am now going to go try to get my brain cells back.

Aren’t most accidents caused by “errors in mathematics?”

If you bear a little kid, encourage her/him to be a scientist, especially the aero-space kind.  There’s no end of funding out there, mostly taxpayer $$ to find intelligent life even one light year away. 

There ought to be a moratorium on all this crap—most of which is useless to us now—until we can get our priorities straight, like the here and now.

Tell me one pressing, needed contribution to humanity made by the idiotic space station or Hubble or putting a man on the moon.  We don’t even NEED satellites.  If this is for THE FUTURE, then let the FUTURE WORRY ABOUT IT; we’ve got enough on our plate here and now.

Quarks, string theory, black holes, etc?  So what?

Here’s a use for an accelerator:  accelerate the action to end Bush’s War. 

Here’s a use for a collider:  Bang all the heads of world leaders together and suck them into a black hole so that ordinary people can live in peace.

Typical Washington,  purplewolf…...
“It crawls…. It creeps…. It eats you alive!...”

Crawls into your bank account, eats your house, creeps around in uniform, destroys your health insurance….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhyRpvgm03g&feature=related

This is another example of how ambition has defeated common sense- This is no tth eunstable energy Source We were Talking about. Couldn’t kill US off fast enough with Coal, so kicked up the Fumes with Oil, played roulette with Nuclear, not ‘Anti matter’ Seem sto me theres a Mission afoot to bring on the apocalypse. Idiots and Meglomaniacs- Let’s Keep it Simple STUPIDS.. Air currents, Water Currents, the Sun, hell even US - we generate energy everyday- strap US with a battery to juice Up. there is NO Magic Pill, all resources we need are right at our finger tips, Stop screwin gAround with these Dangerous Experiments. We have NO need for it!

While I think it is highly unlikely and even comical that this machine will create energy which swallows the earth or turns it to dead matter, however, I do have my doubts about these experiments.  I just can’t see the practical usefulness of them.  What have these experiments accomplished in the past?  It seems a little bit like mathematical masturbation to me.

One has to wonder what we could accomplish if we took all those resources and applied them to practical problems which plague humanity.  There are numerous such problems, but instead of solving them or making an effort we use up a bunch of resources just so scientists can have a lot of fun smashing particles together and theorizing about the origins of the universe.  Interesting no doubt, but I really have to wonder if it isn’t indulgent and unnecessary.  It seems like we could apply resources to a lot more pressing matters.

Doug, how fast do you think we can get this to Washington? Soon, I hope.

“Well, it wouldn’t be so bad…at least it would put us out of our misery and stupidity.”

Jumping off of a tall building would accomplish the same thing for you, Jackpine, so why leave it to chance?

Well, it wouldn’t be so bad…at least it would put us out of our misery and stupidity.

By G.Anderson, March 29: “There is a very real possibility of this….. could produce not only stable “strangelets” that would convert all matter on earth into strangetls, but that it could cause an inter dimensial breach into De siter space…”

Ironic that scientists with their own covert agenda (nothing unusual) might use a particle accelerator to “accelerate” the end of the human race, GA. That is a likely consequence of such an insane search for power at any price and regardless of the risks.

Then again, would any of us want to hang around for what will happen next as a result of human-animal hybrid embryo experiments and so forth? Meanwhile, Americans are back to their favorite childish theme of wanting to beat up on the Chinese.

Perhaps it will actually be the Chinese who eventually find a way of converting the USA into strange matter or a non-dimensional format they can then put in their pocket, duh? The world would be no worse off…...

The problem with interpreting De Siter space - or anti De Siter space is that it is done from this dimensional framework. That is the issue with those who think that Reality is based on what we are standing in when it is merely a reflection of an underlying state(s).

Still, the only way that dense human consciousness can understand its own existence is to presume that it is at the core when it is actually merely a peripheral product and that the four or five dimensions could turn out to be seven - or sets of seven. Going “there” and not coming back will be a real help, uhh…......

....Cyrena being turned into a “strngelet”, ha ha ha!

Holy Smoly G.Anerson,

THIS is news and information education we can use. I admit I don’t understand all of it, but you explained this well enough for any non-scientist to understand the fundamental issues.

We don’t need this dangerous research. There are other ways to do the same, or it need not be undertaken at all.

Thanks.

There have been accidents before. On Tuesday, March 27, 2007, there was a devastating explosion deep in the tunnel at the CERN particle accelerator complex that actually blew a 20 ton magnet right off its mountings. The explosion filled the tunnel with helium and forced a mass evacuation of the facility.
The accident was caused by some errors in basic mathematics, and it is not comforting to know that 6,000 scientists over-looked those basic math errors. 

It is also true that Sandia labs “Z” machine had to be shut down because it began to emit more energy than could be accounted for theoretically.

There is a possibility that the LHC could produce not only stable “strangelets” that would convert all matter on earth into strangetls, but that it could cause an inter dimensial breach into De siter space. An inter dimensional breach of this type would have the potential to destroy, not only the earth but everything to a distance of several parsec’s. 

And although LHC scientists believe that cosmic rays routinely strike particles with the same energy, it is a argument concoted only to justify their continued experimentation, as no black hole residue has ever been observed in our atmosphere.

This research is unnecessary and can be conducted with less risk, and since most high energy partical research has application to nuclear weapons research it should be banned.

Dr. Arkani-Hamed said concerning worries about the death of the Earth or universe, “Neither has any merit.” He pointed out that because of the dice-throwing nature of quantum physics, there was some probability of almost anything happening….

There is some minuscule probability, he said, “the Large Hadron Collider might make dragons that might eat us up.”

Of course, “the Earth or universe” have no merit to these egotistical megalomaniacs. Just as Robert Oppenheimer, the “father” of the A-bomb said after it was twice used on Japan, “I have no regrets”......

But the dragon that “might eat us up” has already been created. If the financial dragon that is the US recession doesn’t, the economic dragon of China eventually will. Then there is the climate change dragon…..

This is what is needed in Washington. The “final solution” to their own worst problems - themselves, uhh!