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Court Dismisses Torture Flights Case

Posted on Sep 8, 2010

Five men who say they were kidnapped and tortured would like to sue a Boeing subsidiary for flying them to their agony, but the Obama administration successfully convinced an appeals court Wednesday to throw out the case. One judge said the court “reluctantly” bought the national security argument.

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The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed the case in 2007 on behalf of five former detainees who said they were kidnapped, transported to foreign countries and tortured in the custody of foreign governments or the US Central Intelligence Agency.

Judge Raymond Fisher said the case presents a “painful conflict between human rights and national security,” but added that the court “reluctantly” came to the conclusion that the need to protect state secrets here superseded that of the plaintiff to present his case.

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By garth, September 13, 2010 at 12:18 pm Link to this comment

Court Dismisses Torture Flights Case

Alas it’s back.  And it’s about time.

Egypt and Syria have been known for quite some time as torture capitals.  Now, we’ve got Bagdhad.  How can you beat that?

We can screw them, waterboard them, apply electrical current to their genialia, to be polite.

The one I like the best is the tearing out of a filthy Iraqi’s fingernails and toenails.  They say that is worst pain a human can endure and still remain conscious.

The Special Ops units will be returning home soon to galas and parades in Bumfuck, Iowa and Methuen, MA.

We can be proud.

Who doesn’t love a torturer?

Sleep well.

If God loves you, then I say, it takes a God.

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By garth, September 10, 2010 at 10:22 am Link to this comment

We’ve tried umpteen White Guys for President.  Most of them turned out to be wastrels.

Obama has turned out to be no different than the rest especially George W. and Ronald Reagan, and a little more shallow than Bill Clinton.

Why not try a woman? An African-American woman?  Barbara Lee. 

If color is our fixation, why not try a yellow one or a brown one, or better yet, a red one?  An actual American. 

Five Cuban nationals sit in a federal prison today because they went to Florida to find out beforehand if any of those rum-drinking, cigar-smoking reprobate-friends of Jeb Bush were planning anything nasty against Cuba.

With Hizzoner Feldman ruling on BP in Texas, Rove’s proteges’ ruling on Seigelman in Alabama, and now this ruling, it’s pretty easy to see that part George W.‘s mission, which he completed successfully in the dead of night—was to flood government posts with traitors, and corporate thieves.

Obama and his Atty General, whatever the hell his name is, (I wish I could forget Obama’s name.) are just taking advantage of the weeds to Democracy that have been planted.

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By PatrickHenry, September 10, 2010 at 2:56 am Link to this comment

If America is to be the example of freedom and justice in the world then these blatent acts of injustice must stop.

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By garth, September 9, 2010 at 12:30 pm Link to this comment

The moolah that was used to change Fidel’s state of mind was probably rent from the Pension Funds of hardworking Americans by the Goldman Sach’s of Wall Street.

They wanted to be able to buy Cuban cigars from a local tobacconist rather than from the dealer at JFK.

It all works out in the end.  We take it in the end and they play international games.

We might get a job, even if it pays only the minimum.

Or you might be Alex Rodriguez, or some sports hero in which case. it’s the American dream come true.

We are left with just the dream.

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By garth, September 9, 2010 at 10:12 am Link to this comment

The ‘sports’ fans used to call talk radio and ask, “Whaddya think about the Sox?” or “Whaddya make of the Yankee’s trade?”

Here, we’ve got five Ayrabs on the hot plate and the Federal Court has said that if the ACLU continues to try this case, an investigation into torture, it would reveal important security ‘secrets.’

Let’s ask, “Whaddya think about the Fed Sox?”

Of course, the secrets are secrets because the answers would reveal that we aren’t the United States of yesteryear.  How do like d’em apples you conservative Republicans?

Hillary ‘the Drone’ Clinton, Sec of State hailed our military as the strongest army ever assembled. (methinks she’s gearing up for the football season.)

At any rate, when did you ever hear a Secretary of State issue such a rah-rah proclamation?  She stated it in a meeting of the Council of Foreign Relations, hosted by the hanger-on Richard Haase, probably the bone head for trying to say a few weeks ago that Afghanistan was laden with Lithium.  What a bunch of boneheads!

For my own self, I try to make lemonade out of lemons, and Hillary’s declaration made it abundantly clear who is running the American Government. 

In other words, ‘They’ are going to protect ‘their’ interests come hell or high water.  History is dead.  Francis Fukuyama, you can reclaim the argument in your book.

Closer to Home:

Castro sold out to Jewish investors.  He must’ve been convinced by more than a PowerPoint Presentation.  I hope the South American People retain their smarts. The cross-eyed American braggadocio has certainly lost hers and his.

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By thebeerdoctor, September 9, 2010 at 9:20 am Link to this comment

What a surprise. The President diligently protects the George W. Bush legacy. All presidents, after actually becoming one, are automatically enrolled in The Presidents Club. Makes me wonder what it is like to breathe such rarefied air.
In the end, there is oligarchical consensus.

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By FRTothus, September 9, 2010 at 5:51 am Link to this comment

“What happened was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to be governed by surprise, to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security ...
To live in the process is absolutely not to notice it—please try to believe me—unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, regretted.”
Believe me this is true. Each act, each occasion is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow.
Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we did nothing) ... You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.”
(A German professor after World War II describing the rise of Nazism)

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By UreKismet, September 9, 2010 at 2:56 am Link to this comment

Wake up the omly way you can tell what a politician is about is by checking out who is paying him, what he/she says is just so much hot air burbled in ‘sound bites’ so the media has meaningless drivel to put between its entreaties to buy garbage you don’t need.
I don’t live in amerika but I remember hearing the oblamblam creep mouthing meaningless platitudes in the 04 senate primary when his initial backers put him up as a potential great black hope.  Two minutes of his one size fits all everything to everyone dribbling, was all it took to work out he was just another whore.
Then when he was running in the prez primary where admittedly, the choice was between the frying pan or the fire, I couldn’t believe that no one was asking him or themselves about the huge Wall St ‘donations’ the Oblamblam campaign was reeling in.

Peeps made a big fuss about a few mill he took off suckers on the internet and prolly a big chunk of that was from corporate trickery anyhow, but for every dollar he took off a sucker he was collecting $100 from Wall St - yet everyone stuck their heads in the sand.
Then when Mrs Cigar demanded a $50 mill payout to pull outta the primary, still peeps didn’t look behind the facade.  The old ‘anybody but bush’ mentality had let them be played like a prize trout & so falling for the 3 card trick.
Why?  Some of us could see it, we would post to blogs, write letters to papers and be called closet rethugs or ‘haters’ or racists for our troubles, as fools fought to fall for the next fraud.

Wake up! Recognise you won’t fix this mess overnight but it can be fixed over 2 or 3 election cycles if you stop looking for the quick ‘tick a box and the world will be apples’ fix.
No matter which way peeps vote in ‘12, Congress, the Senate and the Whitehouse will be inhabited by lackeys to the corporations.  That is inevitable, there is nothing can change that now.  It is impossible to argue that rethugs are substantively worse than dems because they aren’t.  Maybe on a couple of lifestyle non issues but the dems have their evil foibles too, particularly in Latin America and Africa, so there is no ‘lesser evil’.
If the dems get a good chunk of votes in 2012, win or lose they won’t change, but if the ‘reliable rump’ of the dem party stays away big time, THEN they will have no choice but to change, especially if after a coupla election cycles independants are winning mandates dems believe are theirs.

Someone has to break this farcical cycle, the pols won’t to because at the moment even when they lose, they win.  However make it so when they lose, they lose and big time.  Then you will see genuine change.

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By LocalHero, September 9, 2010 at 2:23 am Link to this comment

What a great, big, f**king surprise!

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By David Eason, September 8, 2010 at 7:06 pm Link to this comment

I’m sure glad we elected a progressive defender of civil rights in Barak Obama, and not some reactionary neanderthal who thinks the government can kidnap people, send them overseas to be tortured, then obtain immunity through a claim of “state secrets.”  After all, you would have to be a real facist to endorse that, right?

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