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Could Pot Topple the Tea Party?

Posted on Aug 4, 2010
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The tea party is still less a party than a loose coalition, offering both opportunity for expansion and the threat of division. Take, for example, one growing states’ rights issue that might pose some problems this election season: the legalization of marijuana.  —KA

The Atlantic:

Marijuana legalization has gained steam in the last year and a half, and it’s becoming an issue in multiple states. A handful will vote on medical marijuana ballot initiatives this year, and in California, Proposition 19 would allow counties to legalize marijuana outright, taxing and regulating it more or less like alcohol. The California measure appears to have a reasonable shot at success: internal and SurveyUSA polling have shown it in the lead, while the more reputable Field Research has shown Prop. 19 trailing 48% to 44%. If it passes, it will shock many people who haven’t considered legalization of marijuana to be a remote possibility in this country; President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder will have to decide whether to uphold federal drug laws or allow the will of California’s voters to stand; marijuana will explode as a national topic of discussion.

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By jdelassus, October 16, 2010 at 5:05 am Link to this comment

It would seem the Obama administration has chosen a risky course of action by opposing California’s Proposition 19 legalizing marijuana. It’s argued that by passing such a measure it would continue the violent drug war in Mexico. Another was of looking at this is if Prop. 19 were passed in California and spread to other states the huge profits in the drug black market would take a huge hit. One can only speculate how much of that money goes into lobbying/bribing politicians to oppose Prop.19

It’s incredible how much fuss is made over a weed that is probably one of the least harmful drugs out there and even has some medicinal value. Poor hemp has gotten a bad rap that goes back a long way. Nixon cracked down on the lowly weed for political reasons back in the 60s and classified it as a dangerous narcotic. I think it’s still classified that way. That’s too bad because young people who inevitably end up trying the substance finds that the gov position is BS so they figure if the gov lies about weed they must be lying about other drugs and go on to try other drugs with sometimes disastrous results. Marijuana is truly a gate way drug but in a different way then officialdumb thinks, if they think at all.

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By PatrickHenry, August 6, 2010 at 2:54 am Link to this comment

A relevant article, somewhat dated.

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By optionsguy, August 6, 2010 at 12:18 am Link to this comment
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Pot legalization toppling the Tea Party! Somebody must be smoking something! On second thought, those in the Tea Party are already smoking something.

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By DM42MN, August 5, 2010 at 6:32 pm Link to this comment

@PatrickHenry: Amen brother. I’ve been trying to
pound this into my rural friends heads for years.
Legalized hemp production would have a very good
chance at changing the economic landscape of rural
America. The oils and fibers from this plant were a
mainstay of the early American economy, it was truly
a wonder-plant. Think of taking all those millions of
acres that we pay the farmers to not grow anything on
and make them productive… Tens of thousands of
jobs, billions of dollars, tons of innovative uses
for this plant await.

Not to mention that having a county full of blooming
hemp will destroy most of the value of any locally
growing marijuana (cross pollination would create
lower THC hybrids than ‘the good stuff’).

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By Fat Freddy, August 5, 2010 at 3:37 pm Link to this comment

BTW. here’s a better video of Ron Paul regarding drugs:


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By Fat Freddy, August 5, 2010 at 3:31 pm Link to this comment


Excuse me?

You need some new sources.

Libertarians were never part of the Tea Party. The Libertarian Party has been a formal political party since 1971. It was Libertarians that rejected Tea Partiers. And Libertarians support the repeal of the prohibition of all drugs.

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By rollzone, August 5, 2010 at 10:17 am Link to this comment

hello again. the cannabis issue in California is a cultural ‘state of mind’ comfortable way of life, that has been growing in support for legalizing recreational use for decades, and is approaching the tipping point at the polls. if this referendum is not passed now, it will be passed on the next one, or the next one: it is inevitable, and only a matter of time with the aging of their experienced population. this will divide Republicants whom have their children incarcerated for usage, along with dividing Demoncrats whom salivate over tax revenues. wedging Tea Partiers is blatant fear from over taxation and no representation. it is not a party against party issue, it is citizens against black collar criminals.

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By Anarcissie, August 5, 2010 at 6:59 am Link to this comment

I thought by now the libertarians had been kicked out of the Tea Party movement.  I see few signs of libertarianism in the reports I read these days.  The latest thing they’ve been excited about is overriding local government and the Constitution in the name of racism and religious bigotry, to wit, the “Ground Zero Mosque” controversy.

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By Conservative Christian, August 5, 2010 at 6:54 am Link to this comment
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As a conservative Christian and a 50+ father of three, I hope my kids don’t use marijuana, either as teenagers or as young adults, but if they do, I REALLY hope they don’t end up in jail! As parents, let’s work together to stop putting our own kids in jail over something as silly as marijuana. The effects of marijuana aren’t NEARLY as bad as the effects of JAIL WITH THE SEXUAL PREDATORS, and loss of financial aid, etc. It’s time to stop government officials from ruining our kids’ lives over a little marijuana!

Let’s remember to ask ourselves, “If my child or grandchild used a little marijuana, would I want him or her to go to jail?”

Californians: register to vote at
h t t p s://w w w Just fill out the form and mail it in!

Other states: Google your state name and “voter registration” to find out how to register!

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By bogi666, August 5, 2010 at 6:09 am Link to this comment
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Marijuana could be purchased off the store shelf until 1935 when it was criminalized. Followed was the propaganda movie"Reefer Madness” which is viewed by the ignorant as a documentary. Currently, some of the line of thought about reefer is being injected into the MSM about reefer being behind murders and societal violence. Reefer was legal during prohibition and perhaps a legal substitute for alcohol that the booze industry viewed as competition after prohibition ended. I don’t know but this could be the reason for the criminalization of reefer.

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By PatrickHenry, August 5, 2010 at 3:15 am Link to this comment

I can’t think of another event such as the legalization of hemp farming and use in manufacturing that potentially could turn around industry in this country.

As a biofuel, fiber, medicine, and animal feed it is second to none.

Any idiot in congress who thinks along the lines of reefer madness should be voted out ASAP.

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By Lauren Unruh, August 5, 2010 at 2:33 am Link to this comment
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The Tea Party was founded on the idea of legalizing pot based on the first
amendment. Ihis issue won’t split it, it will make it grow.

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By Robespierre115, August 5, 2010 at 1:25 am Link to this comment

Let’s see what happens. California is famous for its LA and San Francisco liberal crowd (limousine liberals to be more accurate), but the middle of the state is pretty scary, Sarah Palin territory where the abandoned farming, working class are just about ready to roll out the guillotine.

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By Money is funny, August 4, 2010 at 11:35 pm Link to this comment


We can’t have people in disco pants and tie die shirts fornicating and dancing in the streets with their Acid Rock music.

This is just a slippery slope to letting dogs vote.

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By rollzone, August 4, 2010 at 9:54 pm Link to this comment

hello. tea leaves are a drug. the drug influences on politics date before Marco Polo. that someone incredulously invokes opportunism to wedge divisiveness amongst Tea Partiers based solely upon ‘marijuana’ only reinforces their power. recreational cannabis is a non issue on many national levels, and in California it is already a foregone conclusion counting time to recreational legalization. other states are only remotely interested. the illegal national pipeline will continue until, the national government simply changes the classification; and stops depriving states of tax revenue and economic bounty. incumbents are scared of Tea Party power. it is much stronger, and it would take a disclosure on the fallacy of their entire public voting charade to topple them. everyone’s vote is bought or sold. the outcome of the big one is predetermined. their party can not win, even with twice as many votes. when Congress and the administration operate above the will of the people, your vote does not count, the citizenry are no longer in control. the Tea Party vote is just a public charade to vocalize opposition and vent emotional issues, while they pass carbon credits and amnesty and everything they want. they are very bad people, and they only want to weaken the Tea Party in any way they are able, because those gun toting/religious cave dwellers are scaring them about losing their specialness and privilege. the Tea Party may change some faces in the system, but it will not change the force behind the system. the globalists in control will not allow it. no matter what, Americans will still get up tomorrow and go to work, and those in control will have nothing to worry about. Americans have to stop going to work to regain control, and they never will; and the Tea Party will only ever be a fashion statement.

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By gerard, August 4, 2010 at 7:01 pm Link to this comment

Here’s hoping!

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By berniem, August 4, 2010 at 6:31 pm Link to this comment

Hey! Whats the big deal? Tea is tea is tea! Right(or FAR right)?

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