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Conservative Critics Rattle Sabers About ‘Ground Zero Mosque’

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Posted on Jul 22, 2010
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Right-wingers like Sarah Palin know that nothing gets Americans hot under the collar like some good old-fashioned wordplay. Take “death panels” as one recent example of fanciful rhetorical styling for political gain. Or how about this one: “Ground Zero mosque.”

The latter phrase, which (surprise!) isn’t technically correct, according to New York-based Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, has become a rallying cry for certain conservative operatives like Palin, Newt Gingrich and Carl Paladino, whom Salon colorfully references in Thursday’s headline, “Racist bestiality enthusiast joins fight against ‘Ground Zero mosque.’ ”  —KA

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Paladino, who is challenging fellow mosque-opponent Rick Lazio for the GOP gubernatorial nod, is out with the following radio ad that reveals Paladino’s plan to use eminent domain to defeat the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque” when he is elected governor. (Never mind that that’s probably not possible.)

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By Coptic History, September 1, 2010 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment
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Why provocative Mosques are built on the top of others’ properties to disturb social peace and undermine human civility with disgusting noisy mega-microphones?  Why do Muslims implant a New York ground-zero-mosque with superior higher minarets (for the pervert-pedophile monster Mahomet, brutal-butcher rapist) - on the cemetery of Koran’s holocaust victims?  Muslims want to surround spit and invade non-Muslims to surrender to Mahomet’s fascism and totalitarian tyranny under siege.

In the 7th century, Muslims built a mosque on the top of St. John-the-Baptist cathedral church of Damascus after they had invaded Syria.  In Jerusalem, on the top of the holy site of the Jewish people, they built the “far mosque” and changed the name of the city.  For 1400 years Muslims have built many mosques on the top of Coptic plundered-churches across the Nile River and burned down the Library of Alexandria to build mosques instead.  In the 11th century, AlAzhar mosque in Cairo was once a confiscated synagogue with the existing David’s stars.  In Egypt, Muslims built two mosques on the top of the pharaohonic columns of Luxor Temple.  In the 16th century, In Constantinople’s, Turkey, Muslims converted the Agia Sophia cathedral into a mosque.  In India, Muslims erected mosques on the top of Hindu and Buddhist temples. Today, Muslims want to build a victory mosque on the bodies of 9-11 attack by Muslims, in ground-zero New York. Koran’s doctrine of offensive Jihad, supremacy and upper hand subjugation on non-Muslims are designed to propagate totalitarian tyranny, racist bigotry and Islamic Arabization.  The invasions of the terrorist-racist Islam Mafia are assigned to rob rape, confiscate and kidnap souls and create Islamic segregation in our Western world. Ban Koran virus, Ban and Outlaw Islam epidemic in the West and immune us from the scourges of the fascist mafia of Islam.

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By Anarcissie, August 20, 2010 at 5:53 am Link to this comment

PatrickHenry, August 20 at 7:35 am:

‘Persecuted By IslamKoran Mafia

You sound like a hack for the JDL.’

Too dumb, even for the JDL.

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By PatrickHenry, August 20, 2010 at 3:35 am Link to this comment

Persecuted By IslamKoran Mafia

You sound like a hack for the JDL.

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By Persecuted By IslamKoran Mafia, August 19, 2010 at 4:02 pm Link to this comment
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Thanks Txlady706   Speak Up Americans. Stand Up Americans.  Stop Islam’s Mecca Barbarism and savagery’s Invasion To the United States of America and all the West. We don’t want the destruction of Islam doom.  Islam is not a “religion” it is a cult mafia to destroy human civilization. The founder of islam was a pervert pedophile with Aisha (less than sex years) and raped two of his aunts (one named: Khawla bent Hakiem”. Read that Imam Obama and know Islam Trash. Read prophetofdoom.net abount Monster Mahomet. Wake Up every One and Know the Truth.  Thanks Much to Liberate all countries under Islam Occupation like Egypt, Iraque, North Africa, Turkey, Syria, Iran,etc.

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By ScotchandSoda, July 24, 2010 at 12:27 pm Link to this comment

Naturally folks are sensitive to a mosque at ground zero when the terrorists were muslims. I suspect that Imam Faisal abdul Rauf is a good intended person and means no disrespect to the people of NY by building a mosque in that location. I do feel it is insensitive to the people of NY to proceed.
Religion seperates people and gives just another excuse to kill and maim one another…as if we need another excuse.
Based upon available evidence there probably isn’t a god. Perhaps we should attempt to be human instead of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus and all the rest. They are all myths and superstitions and they are bad for us. Humanity is enough. Love your neighbor, have compassion for your neighbor…be human to your neighbor.

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By PatrickHenry, July 24, 2010 at 10:04 am Link to this comment

AubeO,

Every culture, race, ehnicity and religion has its share of fanatics and crazies who, unfortuately broad brush the majority of their members in the eyes of others.

I see its working.

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By Anarcissie, July 24, 2010 at 8:45 am Link to this comment

A petition against the Constitution is going to be pretty useless, even in this benighted age.

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By AubeO, July 24, 2010 at 8:27 am Link to this comment

If you object to the Cordoba Mosque at Ground Zero, sign the petition at
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/killcordoba/ and pass it on. Any elected
official who supports this project should be investigated for who/what is funding
their next campaign. It’s called BLOOD MONEY, and that they can even ENTERTAIN
this idea is incomprehensible. This proposal is a moral abomination in every
respect, and so is anyone who can possibly forget the images of innocent people
jumping to their deaths on that beautiful, sunny Tuesday morning, entirely
because of—correctly interpreted or not—Muslim ideology.

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By Anarcissie, July 23, 2010 at 7:26 pm Link to this comment

I don’t think taxing the existing churches, synagogues, temples, mosques, etc., is going to go over at all well with the folk, even in cynical, godless New York City.

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By PatrickHenry, July 23, 2010 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment

Churches, foundations and non-profits are all corporate with staff and directors making six figures and perks we can only dream of.

If they want to place an advertisement on the most expensive piece of Manhattan, with certain intrinsic value they can pay for it like anyone else, including quarterly property tax.

One of the reasons Washington DC fails to collect enough revenue to fix the streets, schools and aging infrastructure is the tax base is narrow.  Tax exempt non resident self-interest groups burn up the playground and don’t pay for it.

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By Anarcissie, July 23, 2010 at 6:57 pm Link to this comment

It is somewhat unseemly for the government to legitimate certain religious organizations, and not others, by exempting the former from taxation.  It does seem like establishment of religion(s).

Of course, we could abolish taxes….

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By PatrickHenry, July 23, 2010 at 6:38 pm Link to this comment

Tax all churches, foundations and non-profits.

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By Anarcissie, July 23, 2010 at 6:21 am Link to this comment

Good point, Fat Freddy, but a lot of liberals have learned to dislike eminent domain already because of its use against the poor and minorities, and in favor of corporations and the rich, especially gentrifiers.

However, in this case, attempting to stop Muslims from building a mosque in downtown Manhattan through eminent domain is a non-starter because eminent domain is positive—government takes real estate for some theoretically constructive purpose—not negative, to prevent someone from doing something.  Plus, as I’ve noted, stopping the Muslims violates the Constitution, such as the First Amendment (free exercise of religion), Fourth Amendment (no arbitrary seizure of property) and the Fourteenth (equal rights).

So now Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo (running for governor) can huff themselves up as stern defenders of our essential rights and the rule of law.  Way to go, Republicans!

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By Tesla, July 23, 2010 at 6:06 am Link to this comment

Islamist/Christianist/Jewasist they’re all the same to
me. Let’s not have any houses of worship permitted in
New York City. That should solve the problem, don’t ya
think?

Then we can poll the militant fascist wing of the GOP
(er, yes I know that means nearly 100% of the
membership) and see how they react.

If they howl like rabid dogs, we can count it a
success.

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By FiftyGigs, July 23, 2010 at 4:39 am Link to this comment

And ban churches that support pedophilia and/or
polygamy. Come on, Newt! Let’s really clean up!

The question is not whether Palin or Gingrich have
“gone too far” or how their latest moves will “play”.
They are individuals who clearly advocate unAmerican
activity, who aspire to put their hands on a holy
Bible and swear to God that they will preserve the
Constitution.

How dare they subvert our country and our God!

We liberals must distinguish between free speech
consistent with the definition of American liberty,
and speech purposed to destroy the liberty of others.
The consequences for Palin and conservatives like her
must not be the hypothetical gamesmanship of
politics, but real police action.

Who’s to say who can judge what people like Palin
say?

They’re called juries. You and I. Remember? We use to
have the power to decide how our country will be.
Now, we elect our President only to find the spoiled
rich kids will oppose our every vote just “because”.

Is our answer really to passively sit back and watch
how it “plays out”??

Pick her up! There’s a comfy spot next to Lindsey
Lohan. I guarantee this conservative nonsense will
stop faster than you can say “I pledge allegiance”.

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By Fat Freddy, July 23, 2010 at 3:44 am Link to this comment

...that reveals Paladino’s plan to use eminent domain to defeat the so-called “Ground Zero Mosque”

Yes, yes. Liberals like to criticize Libertarians for their position on private property rights. Go right ahead. This is exactly the kind of shit we are talking about. What the government does to your “enemy”, today, they can do to you, tomorrow.

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By wildflower, July 22, 2010 at 9:47 pm Link to this comment

Re KA: Conservative Critics Rattle Sabors

Good grief! Newt Gingrich has completely lost his mind:

“. . . In a new blog post arguing against the planned Muslim community center near Ground Zero, Newt Gingrich explicitly argues that the United States should follow the lead of the oppressive theocracy of Saudi Arabia and reject the so-called Ground Zero mosque. . .

‘There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia. The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over.’

http://www.salon.com/news/newt_gingrich/index.html?
story=/politics/war_room/2010/07/21/gingrich_we_should_be_like_the_saudis

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By Anarcissie, July 22, 2010 at 7:02 pm Link to this comment

I think Palin, Paladino, Lazio and so forth have gotten themselves out on quite a limb.  In order to prevent people from building a mosque two blocks from the site of the World Trade Center because of their religion or race, you’d have to change the Constitution right back to the First Amendment, to say nothing of the 14th.  Propaganda based on racism and religious bigotry tend not to work well except in very short time periods, so the time to pull the stunt would have been maybe a week or two before the election.  After that, people start to think.  Now, Palin may not care, because what she loses in New York she can make up in Missizona, but Lazio and Paladino are running in a state with lots and lots of people with whom racism and religious bigotry cut very little ice because they or their recent ancestors have usually been the objects of racism and religious bigotry and the crimes which they engender, including slavery and genocide.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out after the Republicans get themselves well settled on their chosen hooks.

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By PatrickHenry, July 22, 2010 at 4:24 pm Link to this comment

Let them build a McDonalds house of worship where the congregation can enjoy the burnt offerings.

Be sure provide for sales tax.

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