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Posted on Jul 7, 2010
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Climatologist clear-up: Good news for scientists, bad news for bears.

A British panel investigating allegations that several scientists studying climate change had massaged their data to prop up global warming claims has largely cleared them of those charges—news that’s bound to get climate change naysayers all hot under the collar.  —KA

The New York Times:

But the panel also rebuked the scientists for several aspects of their behavior, especially their reluctance to release computer files backing up their scientific work. And it declared that a ... graph they produced in 1999 about climate in the past was “misleading” and should have contained caveats.

The researcher at the center of the flap, Phil Jones, a leading climatologist who had temporarily stepped down from his position at the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia pending the results of the inquiry, was immediately reinstated to a job resembling his old one. The university solicited and paid for the new report.

The Climatic Research Unit, often referred to as CRU, has played a leading role in efforts to understand Earth’s past climate. Embarrassing e-mail messages sent by Dr. Jones and other scientists were purloined from a computer at the university in November and posted to the Internet. The e-mail messages led to a deluge of accusations from climate-change skeptics.

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By Peter Knopfler, July 18, 2010 at 7:12 am Link to this comment

In 2003 the public media harped on the Sun-Cancer connection. Vitamin D deficiency soared.
I wrote a Paper for Bodybuilding .com about my experience with the Sun living on Tropic of Cancer 43 years now.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/knopfler10.htm
The Sun worshipper that Iam has given me knowledge from the body-skin exposure, your skin absorbes information and accumalates this info.
kindly read “Don`t let the Sun catch you crying” this was written 7 years ago,
Crazy Sun days ahead.
I live one hour from Chichen Itza, the 20 year Mayan influence has also priveledged me to ancient info, The Maya says “THE SUN will speak to YOU” and it is , always has.
It is OUR-HUMANITYS turn to listen, to the SUN!
It`s all frequency, vibratory cellular rate of the Sun. another paper Sun Sacrifices, American Chronicle Peter Knopfler. Have a Sunny Happy DAY!

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By Anarcissie, July 9, 2010 at 5:49 am Link to this comment

jean gerard, July 8 at 7:43 pm:

‘... It is probably better to err on the side of caution
immediately. ...’

And immediately do what, exactly?

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By jean gerard, July 8, 2010 at 3:43 pm Link to this comment
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From what I can gather, we don’t have a lot of time to enjoy that “rich tapestry”
of scientific opinion.  It is probably better to err on the side of caution
immediately.

We are so hot for “security” in this country in the face of terrorism.  Strange that
so many of the same people will risk so much when we are threatened with
danger on a planetary scale.

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By Anarcissie, July 8, 2010 at 6:33 am Link to this comment

Aaron Ortiz, July 8 at 1:48 am:

‘Science should not be polluted with politics. ...’

Science is a human enterprise and therefore it embodies human characteristics, including ideology and self-interest.  Probably, it would not exist in the first place without these things.  The big mistake of many Climate Change / Global Warming advocates has been to pretend they don’t exist in science, that science was on a higher plane, and that therefore scientists should be worshiped as divine authorities above doubt or criticism.  This pretense, and the inevitable revelation of feet of clay which followed it, have done the cause of reason a lot of damage.

It will not be easy to retrieve the situation.  Many people are going to feel that the report we’re discussing was a preordained whitewash.

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By samosamo, July 7, 2010 at 10:36 pm Link to this comment

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A sure sign that the truth will prevail and become uncovered no
matter how the p.t. barnums try to create a sucker every second.

Ortiz, there are several books out detailing climate change and
the many myriad ways that climate changes, Richard Alley’s ‘Two
Mile Ice Machine’ and Doug Mcdougall’s ‘Frozen Earth’ and
Eugene Linden’s ‘Wind of Change’ which is more of a historical
account of changing climate on civilizations.

Then there is NOAA’s web site that a home page search on ‘Ice
Age Cycles’ will take you to a plethora of information. Reading
some or all of this should educate you enough to understand
what climate change really is, enough to dis-count the nay
sayers of belief.

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By Aaron Ortiz, July 7, 2010 at 9:48 pm Link to this comment

Science should not be polluted with politics. I am afraid to believe the latest report
about x or y topic now, because so much politics are injected into the reports of
them.

Unfortunately it is the politicians and large corporations who hold the purse
strings for much of our research.  How can we trust the results when so much
money is at stake?

I felt betrayed when the climate-gate scandal erupted. Now I am jaded.

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By Anarcissie, July 7, 2010 at 6:44 pm Link to this comment


‘Dr. Pielke, who is largely persuaded by the mainstream consensus on climate change, has criticized both climate skeptics and the scientific community for the tone of their debate.

“It has been dominated for a number of years by people at the poles — the most activist scientists emphasizing alarm, versus the most ardent skeptics saying we don’t have to do anything,” Dr. Pielke said. “This recent controversy has opened the eyes of a lot of people to a much richer tapestry of views on climate policy that are out there, which I think is a good thing.”’

Does this mean that Climate Change believers are suddenly going to stop calling people who show the slightest skepticism or doubt idiots, fanatics, and shills paid by the oil industry?  I kind of doubt it.

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By Peter Knopfler, July 7, 2010 at 5:20 pm Link to this comment

I have always thought to seek knowledge from those who put their life into knowledge and refected a life stlye congruent with their research. Therefore Climate is part of the Earth and its place in our solar (sun) system. Someone with the expertise of 70 years dedicated research. A professor dedicated to his Thoughts, Deeds and the respect to share information, that Man is Dr. Lovelock, over 90 years old, Mental Giant! All the rest are out for MONEY, in Greed WE Bleed, Always!

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