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China Seizes Lead in Alternative EnergyPosted on Jan 31, 2010
The Chinese have leapt past Western competitors in the race for alternative energy, becoming the world’s largest makers of wind turbines and solar panels. And they’re not done yet. —JCL
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By "G"utless "W"itless Hitler, February 1, 2010 at 2:11 pm Link to this comment
The real crisis will begin when China’s standard of living rises to the point where the best and brightest minds in the world go there to live. They already have four times the population of the US. That means four times as many smart people. They simply have a brain power advantage. We once were able to compensate with superior development of domestic brains and by enticing foreign brains to move here, but those days are over. Soon our own talent will be leaving for China. If you think America is fat, lazy, and stupid now, just wait 20 years. We’ll be fatter, lazier, stupider, AND poorer. You won’t be able to swing a dead cat without hitting someone chewing with their mouth open—some palid, doughy, oily faced, 20 something with flaccid man tits and little piglike eyes who orders from the drive thru window at Taco Bell and then eats in his car in the parking lot. An ambitionless troglodyte poisoned by environmental estrogen will become the archetypal American male.
Report thisBy mlb, February 1, 2010 at 6:21 am Link to this comment
The Chinese are smarter than we are and they’re better capitalists too.
Instead of destroying its manufacturing base as America has done, China has steadily built its manufacturing ability and exports and is now world leader.
Instead of spending trillions of dollars and killing countless thousands of innocent people in an attempt to control the world’s fossil fuel reserves through military force, China is negotiating and opening trade with countries all over the world - and making its own energy, as this article attests.
If China’s military budget were the same the US budget per capita, they’d be spending $4 trillion a year! Imagine the drain on their economy! (Taking all costs into consideration, the US military budget is ca. $1 trillion a year, and China’s population is about 4 times the US’.)
On the other hand, if the US military budget were brought into line with China’s $70 billion, it would be about $17.5 billion. Imagine the boost to our economy, not to mention to our moral standing in the world.
Report thisBy pabelmont, February 1, 2010 at 4:24 am Link to this comment
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Some people like to pretend they believe (and some benighted people ACTUALLY believe) that “global warming” is a myth.
Well, it appears that the Chinese (not given to easy belief in myths not of their own manufacture) believe that global warming is a real problem—real enough, at least, to make non-fossil-fuel energy production a desirable project even though China also presses forward with coal-fuelled energy production (all for modernization).
Who among US “doubters” can explain China’s policy as the product of a myth aimed to undermine the US?
Report thisBy David, January 31, 2010 at 10:47 pm Link to this comment
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Well of course China’s jumping ahead…we’ve had a sunset clause on wind power tax breaks that has made people here reluctant to invest in it. When the Senate doesn’t renew, or threatens not to, every two years or so, the wind industry goes in the dumper. How about a sunset clause on the oil depletion allowance instead?
There is a development off Nantucket that’s been blocked by NIMBYs…GE was going to produce turbines for the project, but it’s been held up so long they’re no longer producing the product
Report thisBy ThomasG, January 31, 2010 at 10:19 pm Link to this comment
Conservatives would rather have the United States rely on China.
Report thisBy wildflower, January 31, 2010 at 9:50 pm Link to this comment
Re China’s Lead: “Renewable energy industries here are adding jobs rapidly, reaching 1.12 million in 2008 and climbing by 100,000 a year, according to the government-backed Chinese Renewable Energy Industries Association.”
China has jobs and the U.S. has squatters - the U.S. Senate.
“The House has already passed a bill that is a good starting point for creating jobs. But the Senate is sitting on its version, with Republicans and a handful of Democrats arguing that deficit reduction is more important than jobs. In the medium term, the deficit is a serious problem. But right now there is no way to sustain a recovery unless millions of jobs are created soon — and the private sector alone cannot do that.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/31/opinion/31sun1.html
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, January 31, 2010 at 9:18 pm Link to this comment
Jimmy Carter warned us back in 1977 that this could happen. Now it has. The opportunity was lost the moment Reaganism triumphed, King Oil ruled again, and alternative energy became the punchline of Republican jokes.
China doesn’t need to conquer the world. She will rule it economically, as we once did, and as Britain did before us.
Report thisBy Ouroborus, January 31, 2010 at 9:04 pm Link to this comment
Provincialism, imperialism, corporatism, militarism,
Report thisneo-facism, and a morally bankrupt foreign policy of
hegemony; when has America the time to worry about
minor things like alternative energy.
Hell, we can keep an entire industry going by just
stealing oil and invading whomever has it under the
guise of fighting the GWOT. Just because it’s no longer
fashionable to call it that doesn’t mean it’s no longer
operational.
By wildflower, January 31, 2010 at 6:19 pm Link to this comment
SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE:
IN CHINA, IT’S ALL ABOUT A NEW ENERGY “SUPERMINISTRY:
“China’s top leaders are intensely focused on energy policy: on Wednesday, the government announced the creation of a National Energy Commission composed of cabinet ministers as a “superministry” led by Prime Minister Wen Jiabao himself.”
IN AMERICA, IT’S ALL ABOUT A NEW SENATOR WHO SAYS:
Brown said he did believe she [Sarah Palin] had the capacity to hold the office of the president. “I mean she’s been a mayor and a governor and has a national following,” he said. “But I think the more people in a presidential race the better. The caveat to that is I never met her. She’s never contacted us and vice-versa. I know she’s very popular and has a new book out. I haven’t read it and hope to someday.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/31/scott-brown-on-2012-sarah_n_443498.html
Report thisBy liecatcher, January 31, 2010 at 5:15 pm Link to this comment
CHINA SEIZES LEAD IN ALTERNATIVE ENERGY
duh ! ! !
With perpetual wars & blatant theft, Bernanke & Bush3
Report thiscontinue to push America into a deeper & deeper
cataclysmic financial abyss, while the
Chinese are upgrading their infrastructure.
By knobcreekfarmer, January 31, 2010 at 5:00 pm Link to this comment
when “they” say, “no one knew fossil fuels would not keep up with demand let
alone their availably plummet so fast.” - they’re full of shit.
but then again, most of the fat lazy people in the US are full of shit too. we
Report thisdeserve everything we are about to get.
By Louis Fuchs, January 31, 2010 at 2:07 pm Link to this comment
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Industry is in such control of the government that the government will continue to
Report thispatch our economy and tell us how awful alternative energy is. It will do this until
our society breaks under the weight of inefficiency and then the everyday
Americans who pay the taxes will bear the brunt and pay the bill. There are many
past examples of this happening but the consequences were not as dire as they
will be.
By Jim Yell, January 31, 2010 at 1:36 pm Link to this comment
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The sad thing is the fix is seldom considered. Why aren’t these things made in the U.S.? The answer is because investors prefer to pretend that it doesn’t matter to anyone if things can be made in countries with huge populations and a complete disregard for environment or workers rights. The profits are bigger and what does polution in these other countries have to do with us?
Well number one and most ignored is pollution eventually moves across borders, poisons the oceans for everyone and ultimately the land & air. So transfering dirty production may avoid responsibility for directly causing it, but really it doesn’t even do that. It is irresponsible to allow things into the country that are made cheap because of no accountability for poisoning the environment and no responsibility for the social cost of production.
Our people are largely out of work because there are not standards or tariffs to block this end run around responsible production. We have to wonder how long there will be anyone who can afford these cheaply made products from overseas and the cost of lost jobs is a big factor in the destruction of our country.
It doesn’t have to be this way. People need to realize that the process causing this social and environmental destruction is a form of treason.
Report thisBy wildflower, January 31, 2010 at 1:02 pm Link to this comment
Re China: “The Chinese have leaped passed Western Competitors in the race for alternative energy, becoming the world’s largest makers of wind turbines and solar panels. And they’re not done yet.”
Meanwhile, the U.S. citizenry is stuck watching a race between the Republicans who like to obstruct and the Democrats who like to head for the hills.
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