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Ear to the Ground

Californians Put Down Their Joints, Give Jerry Brown Another Shot

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Posted on Nov 3, 2010
Dominican University of California / George Nikitin (CC-BY-ND)

In a state where personal marijuana use is virtually legal, Californians decided not to go all the way and decriminalize recreational marijuana consumption. Defying the national trend, however, Golden Staters just said no to Republican rule.


Jerry Brown will reprise his role as governor, defeating former eBay CEO Meg Whitman. Whitman spent more than $140 million of her own money on her campaign, which, when compared with Brown’s $35 million effort, diminished her claims of fiscal responsibility and business savvy. Still, in these difficult times, we Californians thank Ms. Whitman for her money. Our economy really needed it.


Another former CEO, Carly Fiorina, gave Sen. Barbara Boxer a tough fight, but it was one seat in Congress the Democrats managed to hold onto.


Californians continue to demonstrate a fondness for redistricting, voting in large numbers to limit elected officials’ involvement in the process.


Voters, however, made it easier for their legislators to pass a budget, a gridlocked fiasco that had been a national embarrassment.


Also worth noting, Californians shot down a polluter-backed proposition that would have delayed implementation of the state’s forward thinking clean air rules.  —PZS

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By Inherit The Wind, November 5, 2010 at 1:52 pm Link to this comment

No Ardee;

If I wanted it to be a homosexual slur I would have said “Land of FRUITS and nuts”.  I specifically said “fruit” to avoid that implication.  I am unaware that “nuts” in this context referred to anything other than eccentricity and lunacy.  If it is a homosexual slur, I have never heard that.

With your congenital inability to parse clear language becoming an inane recurrent event, causing you to respond in unfunny invective, you become laughable.

As for my contribution: Most of my posts are intended to contribute to people’s thought processes.  Most of yours are intended to forward your fairy-tale pipe dream fantasies of a Nader-esque democracy.

Oh No! I said “fairy-tale”!  Please don’t infer that to mean something sordid rather something out of “Mother Goose”.  Oh, No! I did it again! I said “Goose”!  Ok, how about “The Brothers Grimm”?

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By ardee, November 4, 2010 at 6:02 pm Link to this comment

Inherit The Wind, November 4 at 3:43 pm Link to this comment

That explains a lot: Ardee is from California, Land of Fruit and Nuts.

Did you have anything of substance to add? Oops forgot who I was addressing, never mind, you never do. By the by, oh rectum breath, the homophobic slur escapes your limited intellect as well apparently.

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By Egomet Bonmot, November 4, 2010 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment

Truthdig didn’t lift a finger for Brown.  I’m still mystified as to why.

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By Inherit The Wind, November 4, 2010 at 11:43 am Link to this comment

That explains a lot: Ardee is from California, Land of Fruit and Nuts.

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By NZDoug, November 4, 2010 at 12:26 am Link to this comment

British Columbia and Mexico breath a sigh of relief!

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By rollzone, November 3, 2010 at 11:38 pm Link to this comment

hello. real money comes from illegal activities. if
you are unaware, the figures released mimic the fraud
in Nevada: 54% opposed to Angle/cannabis—- 46%
opposed Reid/legalization. that is a tremendous
nonvictory for cannabis, and an obvious fraud with
Reid. tremendous for cannabis, because the opposition
is shrinking with every vote; obvious with Reid with
the influx of staffing hand outs, SEIU control, and
complete public hate for ‘lavishing Harry’. it was
the illegal cannabis producers of northern California
whom dumped $millions into buying Los Angeles county
votes, while the rest of the state overwhelmingly
voted in favor of legalization. they did not want to
lose their lucrative illegal business. and the
Demoncrats funneled every possible asset to holding
their voice on the left coast- no matter how people
voted. it was only Pennsylvania which managed
(through active media rebuttal) to prevail over voter
fraud. i want to think Moonbeam has initiative, and
not ‘play it by ear politics’- but what could be
worse than what they have just been through? cannabis
gets closer to legalizing every day, as the opponents
lose their stealth (and Californians may have just
passed it, but will never know the true count).
Arnold thought he would get a bailout from those
diseased Demoncrats, but they took his derivate
bundles and ran. trust no one but yourself, and clean
your mirror. the next election cycle has begun.

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By Anarcissie, November 3, 2010 at 9:58 pm Link to this comment

rico, suave—In the old days, MJ was supposed to be the drug of Mexicans and Black jazz musicians and hipsters.  White folks started to tune in in the ‘60s, but by then it was illegal and demonized. 

The Drug War is very deeply tied up with racial matters as you will find if you look into its history.

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By BobZ, November 3, 2010 at 7:47 pm Link to this comment

California and a couple of other states rejected fear in favor of sanity. Whitman
was Arnold in a skirt, and Fiorina was just another discredited CEO who was
thrown out after almost destroying HP. Unlike Florida we actually look at the
credentials of people we vote for.

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, November 3, 2010 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment
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No to pot, yes to moon beams.  Can’t have everything.

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By morongobill, November 3, 2010 at 4:49 pm Link to this comment

Maybe Ebay will take her back.

Imo, she oughta demand some of her money back.

And Pete Wilson for campaign manager? What a joke!

But the height of arrogance came when she trashed latinos during the primary, and in the general election ran make nice ads on latino media hoping, I guess, that they had short memories.

My girlfriend is a latina, watches all their news, and caught the brazen hypocrisy right from the start.

There’s a lesson to be learned here somewhere amongst the smoking ruins of her failed and costly campaign.

“Too much money, and not enough sense.” is what I’d say.

Morongobill
http://morongobillsbackporch.blogspot.com

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By heavyrunner, November 3, 2010 at 3:38 pm Link to this comment

Abraham Lincoln endorsed Prop. 19, but it lost anyway. One of my favorite commercials from this year’s election was the one from the pro 19 camp.

“I like nothing more than going out on the deck, smoking a bowl of sweet hemp and playing my harmonica!” Abraham Lincoln

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By heavyrunner, November 3, 2010 at 3:34 pm Link to this comment

Jerry Brown should have his advisers talk to Laura Wells about her plan to set up a Bank of California which would be similar to the Bank of North Dakota. It was one of the best ideas by any candidate from any party anywhere in the 2010 election.

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By gerard, November 3, 2010 at 3:28 pm Link to this comment

CALIFORNIANS PUT DOWN THEIR JOINTS AND ...”

Why do we have a demeaning, stereotyping headline like that on TD?  “Fair and Balanced?

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By Robespierre115, November 3, 2010 at 3:21 pm Link to this comment

Californians basically voted between two devils. I myself voted Green Party. This state is in complete shambles, if there was ever a spot where a French Revolution-type upheaval would erupt in the US it would be here.

As for Prop 19, quite bizarre considering most of this state is high all the time.

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By marcus medler, November 3, 2010 at 2:53 pm Link to this comment

Way to go—the only sane - state in U.S.

Remember -1992- Brown was the guy leading the charge for sanity at the
national level. All -progressives and fiscal conservatives need to revisit that
early look at America’s moment of political sanity—oh it was pushed aside by
NAFTAites(Clinton’s horde).

An elder political republican sage told me in 92 that most of Brown’s agenda
will be the norm some day-  but he will be gone when it is!

If Whitman knew to move to California when Brown was Governor years back,
those that want to be part of the solution better get there today.

History has moved the; “star of hope from the east to the west”—praise g**
for California voters.

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By jjohnjj, November 3, 2010 at 2:38 pm Link to this comment

Prop-19 was a weak campaign, underfunded until late in the game, trivialized by Cheech & Chong gags and stained by the frequent reference to “recreational” use. Do we ever speak of people as “recreational beer drinkers”?

The title of this article illustrates the attitude quite well.

Next time, the campaign will have to focus more on the basic injustices of prohibition, the lives ruined by arrest and incarceration, the ongoing expense and difficulties faced by legitimate medicinal users, and the economic stupidity of preventing cultivation of agricultural hemp for oil and fiber.

Silver lining: the initial support for the measure inspired the Governator to reduce possession from a misdemeanor to a $100 infraction. That will reduce court and prison costs, but it’s still unfair relative to alcohol consumers.

I’m eager to find out how much the alcoholic beverage industry contributed to the defeat of Prop-19.

For the record: I don’t smoke now, and I don’t intend to start… I voted yes because prohibition creates more problems than it solves.

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By cruella, November 3, 2010 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment

I find the defeat of Prop 19 surprizing, not just for the use of cannibus, but the violance it brings by being illegal. Voters did not have the ability to think outside the box to think what would could be done if legalized. By not doing so, voters left the power in the hands of gangs and cartels, which is exactly what they hoped would happen.  So the violance will continue, huring innocent people everywhere. Shameful.

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By rico, suave, November 3, 2010 at 12:14 pm Link to this comment

anarcissie:

“it’s better not to take risks or make experiments; the best policy…is ‘Better the devil we know than the devil we don’t know.’” Spoken like a true denizen of government social services offices.

“I think drugs drive people crazy, especially those who don’t use them.” That’s a great line! I’m going to steal it.

“And .., remember the racial connection as well.” Ah yes. Race. How could we ever be allowed to forget race? In any context. Besides, I thought pot was the white boy’s drug and crack cocaine was the drug of choice for people of race.

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By felicity, November 3, 2010 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment

I suspect the maryjane proposition was voted down by the
central valley people of this state - not because valley
people particularly cared whether it was legal or not
but because the ‘coast’ people were pushing its
legalization.  ‘Coast’ people have been driving ‘valley’
people crazy for years and any way they can get back at
us, they’ll take it.

CA has been a color conscious state for years - the
bright red valley and the bright blue coast and never
the twain shall meet.

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By Anarcissie, November 3, 2010 at 11:12 am Link to this comment

rico, suave, November 3 at 1:27 pm:

Even Californians can’t pass a joint prop. What does that tell you about the overall conservatism of the country?

Any country.  As Disraeli said, ‘Not all conservatives are stupid, but all stupid people are conservative.’  It makes sense: if you’re aware of your limitations, it’s better not to take risks or make experiments; the best policy, unless conditions are very bad, is to try to maintain homeostasis.  The short form of this is ‘Better the devil we know than the devil we don’t know.’  Of course, this sort of strategy often causes things to indeed get very bad, and then it’s time for a man on a white horse, etc.  Better not think about that, though.  It’s too depressing.

In the case of drugs, however, I think the issues may be different; I think drugs drive people crazy, especially those who don’t use them.  Look at Prohibition and its numerous evil results.  Yet at one time it was very popular.  Probably a lot of people go to the polls to posture to themselves about their virtue.  And with regard to maryjane, remember the racial connection as well.

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By rico, suave, November 3, 2010 at 9:27 am Link to this comment

Even Californians can’t pass a joint prop. What does that tell you about the overall conservatism of the country?

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By 3rd party voter, November 3, 2010 at 8:51 am Link to this comment

People everywhere in the world should be glad this Prop 19 isn’t going to spread anywhere.

19 was not “legalization” by any rational examination.

Unless you call <1 oz (in public), a 5x5 plot of land per parcel (not resident) to grow on, and the little thing about private sales “Legalization”.

Few supporters of this trash had read it, or knew much about it at all. They just thought it was cool and watched some blowhards pontificate.

Monkey see, monkey do.

The author of this proposition was trying to create a monopoly, as he owns dispensaries and his prop made private sales illegal.

Here is why 19 failing is a very very good thing:

http://votetaxcannabis2010.blogspot.com/2010/07/why-pro-pot-activists-oppose-2010-tax.html

ATTN: Dick Lee- You won’t have it so easy next time. We’re on to you.

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By Rigor, November 3, 2010 at 8:13 am Link to this comment

So many ‘fornians are saying the same thing - “I don’t
really know what Gov-elect Brown will do, but at least
I didn’t vote for the Meg!”
Don’t be sad if this guy turns out to be a buckethead,
but as with so many things in cali the decision comes
down to the lesser of two evils.

As for the pot thing - good choice California, (never
thought I’d say that!).

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By ardee, November 3, 2010 at 7:46 am Link to this comment

I voted for “Governor Moonbeam” in ‘75 and did so again this time around. I say this as a vocal critic of democratic incompetence and enslavement to corporate money and as one who considers his vote as belonging to himself and not to any party.

I do not know how effective Brown will be in solving California’s myriad of problems but I do express much joy at the defeat of that arrogant, pompous and completely out of touch Meg Whitman and her poisonous and negative campaign. Thought you could buy an election,huh?! Well, many elections are bought, but I guess those candidates have an actual personality.

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