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Bloomberg: Bye-Bye Teachers

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Posted on May 6, 2011
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New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has announced that his city does not have the tax revenue needed to continue paying some 6,000 of its teachers.  —ARK

The New York Times:

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Friday that he intended to eliminate 4,100 teaching jobs through layoffs, and about 2,000 through attrition, the first significant layoffs of teachers since the fiscal crisis of the 1970s.

The job cuts are part of Mr. Bloomberg’s effort to slice an additional $400 million from various city agencies. He needs to plug a multibillion-dollar deficit in his $65.6 billion spending plan for the fiscal year that begins July 1. That budget is about the same size as the current one.

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By MarthaA, May 9, 2011 at 12:44 am Link to this comment

Virginia777, May 8 at 11:52 pm,

If TDoff is talking satire, he definitely isn’t good at it.  He should
spend some time listening to Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart.

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By Virginia777, May 8, 2011 at 11:57 pm Link to this comment

thethirdman:

“We haven’t valued quality education in a long time.”

True. Especially not for all children.

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By Virginia777, May 8, 2011 at 11:52 pm Link to this comment

MarthaA:

“Logic??  Need some.”

His comment was called Satire.

It was funny and dead-on.

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By MarthaA, May 7, 2011 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment

TDoff, May 7 at 5:35 pm,

“…but I have none to spare. ” —TDoff, May 7 at 5:35 pm

True, you have no logic.

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By John poole, May 7, 2011 at 7:41 pm Link to this comment
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I’m a part time music ensemble teacher (actually an artist in residence position)
at a private academy in Pennsylvania. My main income is from piano bookings
and commercial composing, Two years ago my hours were cut in half but I
decided to make it appear to the students as if the program had not been
reduced. I didn’t want to the students to sense an austerity move and be
worried that their beloved school was experiencing financial constriction.  The
principle has not thanked me for coming in for free two afternoons a week nor
shown any appreciation of my contribution.  So it isn’t just public education
administration which seems indifferent to caring and responsible teachers. I
believe many parents regard those who are working in the teaching profession
as an annoying but somewhat tolerable expense. Most parents know they need
to have their car washed regularly and want a convenient and affordable wash
place so they don’t have to wash their car by hand. A few have their cars
detailed every few months and maybe those are parents who prefer to send
their children to a non public school.

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By berniem, May 7, 2011 at 6:05 pm Link to this comment

Why don’t politicians ever get laid off? Do you think that if no one voted for any of them that would equal a lay off? I firmly believe that the problem is not to much government; its too many politicians replacing dedicated public civil service employees with private sector patronage skewed toward aiding and abetting the taking over of the commons and overall control of governance and public safety by an unaccountable and legally insulated corporatocracy that sees the role of government as nothing more than an expediter and enforcer of it’s directive. Corporate capitalism is a corrupt enterprise and like all such entities will eventually topple and, unfortunately, take us asll with it!

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By TDoff, May 7, 2011 at 5:35 pm Link to this comment

MarthaA…Your need is obvious. It’s brave of you to admit it. I hope you develop some…but I have none to spare.

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By MarthaA, May 7, 2011 at 3:45 pm Link to this comment

TDoff, May 7 at 12:55 pm,

Logic??  Need some.

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By TDoff, May 7, 2011 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment

This may turn out to be a good thing. Six thousand teachers fired means thousands less kids will get adequate schooling. Those kids can bypass all that ‘education BS’, and start their careers early. That will give them a jump on all the dullards left behind in school.

By the time the kids left behind in school get out, the jump-starters will be making heavy bucks, wheelin’ and especially dealin’, and they’ll be buying politicians and judges by the handsfull. They’ll be the new ‘Powers-that-Be’, the Koch Bros. of their generation, dumber-than-a-bush, but rich.

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By MarthaA, May 7, 2011 at 12:09 pm Link to this comment

thethirdman, May 7 at 11:11 am,

We need to hear from the teachers.

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By thethirdman, May 7, 2011 at 11:11 am Link to this comment

This is a great example of people spouting off about things they know very
little about.
We hear the words “teachers laid off” and our minds jump to some kind of
sinister corporate campaign aimed at dismantling public services.  “Teachers,”
“children,” “union” are the magic words of the left that are used in the same
way that “family values,” “big government,” and “taxes” are used by the right.
I am a firm believer that at the end of the day, we tend to the things we value
most.  It’s not even that controversial that we (collectively, and demonstrated by
our actions) do not value public education for the masses.  I know parents that
are very concerned about their children’s development and take a major role
supplementing the weak education their kids receive.  They recognize that
educating their children is not the duty of the state.
But for all the commenters here, do you know anything about NYC public
schools?  They are a disaster of the first degree. What if those 6000 teachers
actually are redundant? And not redundant in corporate speak, but actually
redundant, not needed, not worth the value they add?  Is it possible to lay off
anyone these days?  If Bloomberg, not my favorite politician, really is trimming
the fat, than what is the beef?

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By ?????? ?????, May 7, 2011 at 10:23 am Link to this comment
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Good post.
thanks for sharing..

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By MarthaA, May 7, 2011 at 8:41 am Link to this comment

Queenie, May 6 at 8:56 pm,

Private capitalism sees no need to sublate community and private
interests.
Never have—Never will.  Something is sublated only in so
far as it has entered
into unity with its opposite.  X = X is the most basic example of
sublation.

When you are talking about propaganda you are only talking
about X on one side of the equasion that does not have an
equivalent value on the opposite side of the equasion. 

When you are talking about dialectic you are talking about X on
one side of the equasion being equivalent and unified as equal on
both sides of the equasion.

Since this thread is about the teaching
profession and this is based upon academic
understanding, it would seem that teachers
would be able to respond to the concept of the
unity of balance, since that unity has enabled all
logical and mathematical understanding that
presently exists in the academic world.

If teachers deny logic, should they whine and
grumble when benefit is denied to them on the
basis of that same denial of logic.

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By PC McGee, May 7, 2011 at 1:47 am Link to this comment
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Are we running out of those little green pieces of
paper again? Darn.

Idiocy.

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By Virginia777, May 6, 2011 at 10:34 pm Link to this comment

Tragic.

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By Queenie, May 6, 2011 at 8:56 pm Link to this comment

Well, maybe the teachers can get $5.50 an hour jobs at charter schools that are popping up all over like pimples on the arsehole of progress.

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By MarthaA, May 6, 2011 at 5:37 pm Link to this comment

thethirdman, May 6 at 4:59 pm,

Who is the “we” you are talking about?

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By samosamo, May 6, 2011 at 5:26 pm Link to this comment

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Here’s a billionaire many times over and now he goes into
austerity mode culling out teachers. How in hell do the people
of nyc expect to get anything done worthwhile when they keep
electing the elite to watch the hen house. Wonder how many
more billions old bloomers will have gathered to himself
before he leaves office. NYC, you deserve what you get.

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By thethirdman, May 6, 2011 at 4:59 pm Link to this comment

Or they are simply not needed in this particular circumstance.  We haven’t valued
quality education in a long time.  Let’s not pretend we do now.

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, May 6, 2011 at 4:26 pm Link to this comment
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Nobody don’t need no stinkin edjukashun to shoot no assalt rifull at a towel head.  Klose all da skools.

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By MarthaA, May 6, 2011 at 4:04 pm Link to this comment

So, apparently teachers are peasants and not considered to be a
part of the Neo Middle Class.

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By Lucius Fieldon, May 6, 2011 at 3:43 pm Link to this comment
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If you treat the people teaching your kids like second or third class citizens,  then how do you think your children will turn out?

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