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Biden: Assange a ‘High-Tech Terrorist’

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Posted on Dec 19, 2010
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Biden on Assange: “ ... This guy has done things that have damaged and put in jeopardy the lives and occupations of people in other parts of the world.”

In the strongest rhetorical barb yet against the Australian founder of WikiLeaks, Vice President Joe Biden has given voice to his most exaggerative self by calling Julian Assange a “high-tech terrorist.”—JCL

The Guardian:

The US vice-president, Joe Biden, today likened the WikiLeaks founderJulian Assange to a “high-tech terrorist”, the strongest criticism yet from the Obama administration.

Biden claimed that Assange has put lives at risk and made it more difficult for the US to conduct its business around the world.

His description of Assange shows a level of irritation that contrasts with more sanguine comments from other senior figures in the White House, who said the leak of diplomatic cables has not done serious damage.

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By fearnotruth, December 22, 2010 at 4:12 pm Link to this comment

Before getting too excited and optimistic over the so-called light being
shed
...

2 things to never forget:

1. “Deception is a state of mind and the mind of the state.” - James Jesus
Angelton - Director of CIA Counter Intelligence (1954-74)

2. “The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major
media.” - William Colby - Director of the CIA (1973-76)

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By Sodium-Na, December 22, 2010 at 2:31 pm Link to this comment

Re: ardee,December 22 at 11:57 am.

ardee,

You have started the insults in names calling and I intend to finish it. I am not through with you yet.

I can make more shambles of what you wrote in the above Re of yours:

Just a reminder,in case you have forgotten,I have in my files some posts of yours addressed to me and describing my posts you admired so highly,as you put it,and I quote some of your words that I still remember,“You,(meaning me Sodium),have set the standard”,in eloquance and substance. That was,of course,when you liked what I wrote then.

Now,I write something you do not like,and all of the sudden you have described me as “childish”,silly,  as “childish”,“silly”,“sophomoric” and “juvenile”. These are your words,Mr.ARDEE! Therefore,he who needs to think before he posts is you,Mr.Ardee,not me. Hence I suggest to keep your instructions and urging to your own defficiency,sir! In other words,you should look in the mirror long and hard before urging others to think before they post.

I can dig out those complimentary posts of yours,addressed to me,if you like,to show how ridiculous you have become.

Grow-up,ardee,for your own mental health And stop insulting posters with whom you disagree,by calling them names,unfit to come from someone who had once claimed he was/is the grandfather of so many grandchildren. And belive me I mean well,here,with no rancor,whatsoever.

Have a nice day.

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By ThomasG, December 22, 2010 at 1:14 pm Link to this comment

The function of Julian Assange is to shed light upon the internal workings of government, so that word and deed will be more closely connected and enable more responsible government; without light being shed, there is no incentive in bureaucracy that inclines it toward good governance.

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By ardee, December 22, 2010 at 6:57 am Link to this comment

Sodium-Na, December 21 at 7:37

Thank you for providing yet more proof of my exceedingly poor opinion of your debating style. The comment you made, and which I have twice noted, is rather clear. Your subsequent ravings and meanderings are simply ridiculous attempts to deflect the meaning of what you wrote. Despite your childish antics you are pinned like a butterfly on display.

Nothing further needs to be added by me to this point. Excepting maybe urging you to think before you post, to find the backbone to stand behind what you post or simply dont post it..

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By fearnotruth, December 22, 2010 at 5:25 am Link to this comment

RE: Julian Assange is a ‘High Tech Journalist’

arguable - e.g.

Mr. Assange was spared a jail sentence in 1995 after admitting 25 charges of
hacking into computer networks including the Canadian communications firm
Nortel.

Ken Day, who headed the Operation Weather investigation into Mr Assange’s
circle of hackers, told The Daily Telegraph: “Ego is a big part of who he is. The
challenge to win. I think that’s important to him as a person. He wouldn’t give
up on a system he was trying to break into, he was very persistent.”

Police in Australia first came across Mr Assange following an “audacious” attack
on Nasa’s computer in 1989 for which he was a suspect. The gang was so
cocky that it monitored the police investigating it, and even left messages for
detectives on their police computers.

Fining him 2,100 Australian dollars in December 1995, Judge Leslie Ross, at
Melbourne’s County Court, said he believed Mr Assange was driven by a desire
to be “empowered” by his access to high security files.

http://tinyurl.com/2f35goa - http://www.telegraph.co.uk

to be clear: Biden’s a fool who probably has no real idea how well the ‘leaks’ may serve to
justify the crimes of his task master, Netanyahu… e.g.

WikiLeaks: Good for Israel

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
© Arutz Sheva, All Rights Reserved
Published: 11/29/10, 8:46 AM / Last Update: 11/29/10, 9:32 AM

Initial reactions from Israeli officials show that the WikiLeaks revelations were good for Israel and
did not damage national security.


“If anything, the leaks were positive and did not damage Israel’s image at all,” former National
Security Adviser Giora Eiland told Voice of Israel government radio Sunday morning. “There was
no contradiction between what Israel has said in public and in private. Several events happened
as Israel said they would,” such as Syria’s building a nuclear site.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/140889

There’s also a report: “Assange met with Israeli officials in Geneva earlier this year and struck
the secret deal. The Israel government, it seems, had somehow found out or expected that the
documents to be leaked contained a large number of documents about the Israeli attacks on
Lebanon and Gaza in 2006 and 2008-9 respectively. These documents, which are said to have
originated mainly from the Israeli embassies in Tel Aviv and Beirut, where removed and possibly
destroyed by Assange, who is the only person who knows the password that can open these
documents, the sources added.”

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/12/07/18665978.php

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By MarthaA, December 21, 2010 at 11:07 pm Link to this comment

Biden has a well known mouth problem and undoubtedly meant to say that
Julian Assange is a ‘High Tech Journalist’.

Journalists are not terrorists, because of what they report, Biden knows that.

It may be getting hot, as Wikileaks has stirred the corruption and hopefully Wikileaks stirring will continue, as corruption must be rooted out, if democratic society in the United States is to include the 70% Majority Common Population, instead of only the 2 aristocracies. 

Interesting how Biden never figures the FOX News Network’s propaganda and sophistry for news is criminal and there was a time in this country that it would have been.

Also, when a woman crawls in bed with a man for the purpose of sex, and complicit sex happens, it isn’t rape; there is no way it can be misconstrued as rape, because today’s women may choose to have their own fitted condoms, especially if sexually active, and these women should have been prepared for what they were soliciting.  Blaming the man for a broken condom as if it is rape, and all his fault, doesn’t work in the 21st Century especially for complicit solicited sex in the women’s own beds.

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By MarthaA, December 21, 2010 at 10:59 pm Link to this comment

Biden has a well known mouth problem and undoubtedly meant to say that
Julian Assange is a ‘High Tech Journalist’.

Journalists are not terrorists, because of what they report, Biden should know that.

It may be getting hot, as Wikileaks has stirred the corruption and hopefully Wikileaks stirring will continue, as corruption must be rooted out, if democratic society in the United States is to include the 70% Majority Common Population, instead of only the 2 aristocracies. 

Interesting how Biden never figures the FOX News Network’s propaganda and sophistry for news is criminal and there was a time in this country that it would have been.

Also, when a woman crawls in bed with a man for the purpose of sex, and complicit sex happens, it isn’t rape; there is no way it can be misconstrued as rape, because today’s women may choose to have their own fitted condoms, especially if sexually active, and these women should have been prepared for what they were soliciting.  Blaming the man for a broken condom as if it is rape, and all his fault, doesn’t work in the 21st Century especially for complicit solicited sex in the women’s own beds.

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By Peter Knopfler, December 21, 2010 at 10:02 pm Link to this comment

All that education what happened to Joe you know the
one that went to school for many years a LAW Degree, He
mimics a rifle to shoot, like who, shoots him in the
face, well Joe needs some lessons, were not using
remmingtons.

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By fearnotruth, December 21, 2010 at 2:44 pm Link to this comment

RE: Wikileaks has exposed the sentiment of Arab rulers, presiding over
Sunni populations, that Shiite Iran is a threat

maybe look a little deeper, e.g.

http://www.mpacuk.org/story/010310/wahabi-vs-shia-mossad-tv.html

Memri TV is a well-known Mossad front, and was created to (mis)translate
information from Arabic to English and send it to media outlets around the
world.

This makes a busy reporter’s job easier, they do not need to translate anything;
it is all done for him. Mossad then becomes the primary source of information
for reporters and their outlook on the Muslim world.

[...]
This video by Memri is very interesting; it translates a hardcore Saudi Salafi
preacher teaching hundreds of Muslims to hate their Shia Muslims brothers. It
does not take a genius to work out why Memri would do this. It is of course in
their interest to get Muslims hating each other. It also re-enforces the
stereotype that Sunnis and Shias hate each other, and cannot possibly live
together, a fallacy, as most Muslims do not follow the type of nutty scholars in
this video.

[...]

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By Sodium-Na, December 21, 2010 at 2:37 pm Link to this comment

Re: ardee,December 21 at 12:32 pm..

ardee wrote:

“Your diatribe,lest it be lost amidst the shrillness of your postings was that it was a terrible thing to allow criticism of our leaders”

ardee,

What’s in the world you are talking about by “it was terrible thing to allow criticism of our leaders?”

What criticism? I was not talking about criticism of Joe Biden by Netanyahu. I was talking about the acts of explicit and rude defiance Yahoooo had made on the ground of Arab East Jerusalem,by demolishing Palestinian homes for new houses and apartments to be built in their places,for Jews only. The timing was crucial. Yahoooo committed that act of rudeness at the eve of Joe Biden presence in Jerusalem,for trying to break the negotiations deadluck for settlement between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. While committing such acts,Yahooo invited Biden for a dinner and Biden meekly accepted the invitation and dined with Yahoooo,accompanied with his wife,instead of immediately flying back to the U.S.for reporting what he found out what was going on in Jerusalem to the President. Yahoooo’s acts were condemned by every website I reviewed world wide,along with criticisms of the U.S.for putting up with such despicable and inhumane actions agains the Palestinians of East Jerusalem.

It seems to me that you had no idea what I was talking about and yet you gave yourself the right of calling me names. What for? Perhaps to satisfy your ego or for other reasons only known to you. Pity!

ardee also wrote:

“I paste the sentiment(my sentiment)lest you forget or seek to backtrack now:

When Yahoooo insults the Vice President or the President of the U.S.A.,he insults the whole country and its entire population of 300 million people. As a citizen,I vehemently reject such insults with equal intensity,if not more so.”

Forget? No,ardee. No way. Yes,I am old,but not forgetful yet.

Backtrack? Tha’s what you really meant to say. My response is never,unless you are intelligent enough to persuade me to do so. And I do not thing you are intelligent enough to reach my level of thinking.

In short,ardee,rest assured that I stand behind every word I wrote. And I will write it again and again and again because I do know what I am talking about and sadly you do not.

Final words:

You have called me “childish”.
You have called me “silly”.
You have called me “sophomoric”.
You have called me “juvenile”.

Now ardee,do you not think it is only fair to reciprocate in name calling? I think it is only fair to recipricate:

I feel that I will be dishonest,if I refrain from telling you what I think of you after this unpleasant encouter:

ardee,you are an asshole who cannot see further than the tip of his nose and I proved it in the above outline.

Have a nice day!

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By Maani, December 21, 2010 at 12:59 pm Link to this comment

mlb:

“There is no reasonable definition of terrorist which includes Assange, nor is there any that excludes the government of the United States.”

Bravo!  Superb statement.  I hope you get your own page on Wikiquotes and it opens with this one.

Gerard:

As you well know (despite your comment), LOL (“laughing out loud,” not “lots of love”) is used to soften the tone of a possibly ambiguous comment.  If you read my post to you without them, the tone can seem much “sharper” than it is meant.

Re your other comment, I agree: how many people have actually ANY of the WikiLeaks cables for themselves?  If they haven’t, what gives them the right to comment on them?  This was exactly the issue with Islam after 9/11: few if any people knew one jot or tittle about the Qur’an, or what it actually said.  Yet they would happily regurgitate the media echo chamber lies and spin about Islam.

Finally, okay, you’ve got me: what is AWGTHTGTTA?

Peace.

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By ardee, December 21, 2010 at 7:32 am Link to this comment

fearnotruth, December 21 at 7:58 am

Thanks for the link, an important source of information. I took away the conviction that Wikileaks has exposed the sentiment of Arab rulers, presiding over Sunni populations, that Shiite Iran is a threat, not because they seek nuclear weaponry, but because they threaten the stability of the Shia minorities within those rulers borders.

Sodium-Na, December 20 at 5:55 pm

Your response was as sophomoric as the initial post to which I replied. Consistency is generally a good thing, but not always.

Your diatribe, lest it be lost amidst the shrillness of your postings, was that it was a terrible thing to allow criticisms of our leaders. I paste the sentiment lest you forget or seek to backtrack now:

When Yahoooo insults the Vice President or the President of the U.S.A.,he insults the whole country with its entire population of 300 million people. As a citizen,I vehemently reject such insults with equal intensity,if not more so.

What can one say to such juvenile political viewpoints? Freedom from criticism is one of the hallmarks of totalitarianism. Is that truly what you seek?

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By fearnotruth, December 21, 2010 at 2:58 am Link to this comment

RE: Other than Rupert Murdoch and Julian Assange both being Australian
journalists that do the news, there doesn’t appear to be anything about them
that is significantly the same; Rupert Murdoch’s minions report right-wing
propaganda and sophistry against liberals, while Julian Assange reports truth
leaks that benefit the populace at large,  a completely opposite reporting of
news.

exception taken

both are serving very well in driving evermore deeply the wedge that divides
the under classes, fueling the so-call R/L schism, blaming one another and
clenched in senseless street fighting, while consistently taking the heat off the
investor class of plutocrats and oligarchs; and most pertinent to this issue, the
Middle East’s greatest nuclear threat - give up about 10 minutes to this bit of
infotainment, it’s genuinely educational: http://tinyurl.com/2cf9wna

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By MarthaA, December 20, 2010 at 11:00 pm Link to this comment

Maani, December 20 at 6:32 pm,

Other than Rupert Murdoch and Julian Assange both being Australian journalists that do the news, there doesn’t appear to be anything about them that is significantly the same; Rupert Murdoch’s minions report right-wing propaganda and sophistry against liberals, while Julian Assange reports truth leaks that benefit the populace at large,  a completely opposite reporting of news.

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By gerard, December 20, 2010 at 9:28 pm Link to this comment

Maani:  Just as an aside, you positively kill me with your LOLs.  The language of the nerds goes down hard with me, but AWGTHTGTTA?  AYF Gerard, the 96 year old freak .
  Sad to say, practically everything these days comes off retrograde.  I was making codes more sophisticated than Twitter when I was in grade school ages ago.
  Postscript:  Do we even have enough Americans who can read the WikiLeaks to make a difference in our time-worn “foreign policies”? And then after that, do we have enough warm-hearted, courageous citizens to do as the WikiLeaks people hope, and drag the nation in out of the violent and soul-eating cold?

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By PatrickHenry, December 20, 2010 at 7:51 pm Link to this comment

A Sega is high tech to biden.

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By ThomasG, December 20, 2010 at 7:45 pm Link to this comment

By any means necessary, pursue what is in your own best class and cultural interest as an integral part of your class and culture, without contentious conflict with other class and cultural interests, and those who class and culturally oppose you in their own self serving interests will be called criminal, oppressor, and tyrant; rather than the providers of individual life, liberty, and happiness with freedom and justice for all.

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By ray, December 20, 2010 at 7:12 pm Link to this comment
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biden is a tape recording- in his case- comrade is good
more dung on the heap

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By mlb, December 20, 2010 at 4:24 pm Link to this comment

There is no reasonable definition of terrorist which includes Assange, nor is there any that excludes the government of the United States. 

Too bad dishonesty and hypocrisy are not impeachable offenses. 

Much greater transparency is the only hope for our democracy.  The only way for us to prevent politicians from doing bad things is to keep our eyes on them at all times.

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By Maani, December 20, 2010 at 1:32 pm Link to this comment

If Assange is a “high-tech terrorist,” then Biden is a low-tech bonehead.

But I must admit one thing gave me pause when Assange wrote his recent piece.  In providing historical support for his actions, he gave credit to…Rupert Murdoch.  Huh???

Gerard:

“Well I wish the power elite was reading these blogs, but I strongly doubt it…”

Even if they were, what makes you think it would change their mind one itty-bitty little bit?  LOL.  If they ARE reading TD, they are doing so to make sure our FBI files get thicker.  LOL.

Peace.

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By Sodium-Na, December 20, 2010 at 12:55 pm Link to this comment

ardee,

Thanks for the compliment!

Regrettably,your misinterpretation of my comments make you more childlish and,indeed,sillier.

Please show me where in my comments I said that,as you put it,“politicians are above approach”! I have made NO such a statement.

I have got news for you,Mr.ARDEE: condemning all politicians by the tons reflects unfavorably on you,not on them,including Ralph Nader,whom you vehemently support,regardless of what!  There are politicians who are more decent and more honorable than you and me put together,body boy!Period. Ralph Nader is one of them. Therefore,your generalization is indicatve of the limited horizon of the mind!

Have a nice day.

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By RenZo, December 20, 2010 at 12:35 pm Link to this comment

I had thought that Saturday Night Live’s portrayal of Biden as a smiling walking human equivalent of a goofy Labrador was too severe, over the line, too parody too little true.
No more. He is performing like a lap dog for the politicos. SNL’s idiotic smiling happy retriever is just right.
Bring it here boy!
Good boy!
Sit, Joe, sit!

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By drbhelthi, December 20, 2010 at 12:30 pm Link to this comment

The mouthings of the zionist kingpin, Mr.
Netwhatayahoo, about comrade Mr. Biden. 

After careful evaluations, one repeatedly reaches the
same conclusion.  Comrade Mr. Biden is so low on the
totem pole, that he does not qualify for the title,
“Exceedingly-Low-Tech-Terrorist.”  Which, I view as
being to his credit.  The position, V.P.,
into which he agreed to be placed,
is in itself, debit enough.
He is bring dumped-on, from all directions.

Yet, he would not be permitted to migrate to the
“Dictatorship of Israel,” even if he wanted to.  Nor
does his talking that “shit,” about feeling at home
in “israel,” seem to have a favorable influence,
either.

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By JohannG, December 20, 2010 at 12:06 pm Link to this comment

When travelling anywhere abroad, I live in a constant
state of embarrassment vis-a-vis our political
leadership. Joe’s silly remarks just added a notch.
Thanks Joe!

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By knute, December 20, 2010 at 10:52 am Link to this comment
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Biden is just another shiny politician oppurtunist..He backed the changes in the credit card industry that has in part made possible their heavy-handed tactics. As a senator from Delaware where most of these companies operate out of he turned his back on all of us..So screw Joe Biden, he’s no friend of the middle class…what dribbles out of his mouth is only what has been written down for him to say. He has proven in the past to not be one who thinks before he speaks. I’d suggest the millions dealing with these credit card companies are feeling more terrorized then anything made available by Wikileaks. The problem is our politics have nothing but disregard for the truth, and Biden is no different.

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By reynolds, December 20, 2010 at 10:21 am Link to this comment

and biden is a low tech terrorist

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By oswegatchie, December 20, 2010 at 9:52 am Link to this comment
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The business of the U.S. needs to made difficult around the world. It would increase the possibility of peace and goodwill.

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By ardee, December 20, 2010 at 8:51 am Link to this comment

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If Joe does not mind being insulted by the Prime Minister of Israel,an APARTHEID entity,that is his business,but not as a Vice-President of the U.S.A.

When Yahoooo insults the Vice President or the President of the U.S.A.,he insults the whole country with its entire population of 300 million people. As a citizen,I vehemently reject such insults with equal intensity,if not more so.

I must comment that your supposition that American politicians are above reproach is childish and silly. By all means call the dogs to war because somebody, somewhere said something or other about someone or other.

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By Sodium-Na, December 20, 2010 at 7:08 am Link to this comment

In addition to what you,the beerdoctor,so correctly and explicity have commented about Joe Biden,the Prime Minister of Israel,Benjamin Netanyahu,keeps insulting him and he takes as the Vice President of the United States of America.

If Joe does not mind being insulted by the Prime Minister of Israel,an APARTHEID entity,that is his business,but not as a Vice-President of the U.S.A.

When Yahoooo insults the Vice President or the President of the U.S.A.,he insults the whole country with its entire population of 300 million people. As a citizen,I vehemently reject such insults with equal intensity,if not more so.

What’s really going on is UNREAL!

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By RayLan, December 20, 2010 at 6:47 am Link to this comment

Terrorist - how ironic that incendiary word has sparked so much US terrorism - and if truth be known and thanks to Assange it is, the US has been complicit if not initiative in terrorist atrocities all over the world. Deal with it Joe - all that has been killed is US credibility which was barely viable to begin with and that is no secret.

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By thebeerdoctor, December 20, 2010 at 5:48 am Link to this comment

Let me put this as mildly as I can: Vice President Joe Biden is a despicable politician. A verbal spigot for the Israeli lobby, it is not surprising in the least that he would attack the head of an organization which exposes the dishonesty of the entire operation. Biden, being the dedicated sycophant that he is, can not help stumbling all over himself in pursuit of his dogged belief that Israel can do no wrong. As the Vice President said while visiting Israel last March: “the instant I return, I feel like I’m at home. I feel like I never left.”
I have often wondered why he has not relocated to his beloved Middle Eastern nest.

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By drbhelthi, December 20, 2010 at 5:39 am Link to this comment

The secreting of thousands of NAZIs into the US at the end of WWII is documented by various U.S. Gov. sources.  The great American Patriot of the Jewish belief, Mrs. Mae Brussell, broadcast the conversion of the USA into the IVth Reich.  Only a few of us believed her, in the 1980s.  Now, most of us believe what some termed her “prophesy.”  It was no prophesy, it was only a revelation of the facts.  She was one of a few who had the courage to reveal the info.  Chalk up one for the ladies, especially Jewish ladies.

Comrade Biden received a clarification of the IVth Reich, and tossed-in with it, against the wisdom of his conscience.  Now, if he makes 1/2 step against the IVth Reich, he will not all of a sudden develop a “non-curable” brain cancer. Rather, he will be issued a fatal heart attack.  Only a 3-minute job with the proper transmitter. Too bad they are not pointed at the NAZI terrorists who have overtaken the western world.

Comrade Biden may be issued a fatal heart attack anyway, since the AXIS female, Hillary, is being further primed for the VP slot. Unless “Georg Jr.” alters the plan.  Since “Jeb” did such a good job of defrauding Floridians in the 2004 election, while innocents like Bradley Manning are issued inhumane treatment, “Jeb” might do a better job of “subterfuge-gating” than AXIS Hillary.

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By gerard, December 20, 2010 at 12:17 am Link to this comment

fearnotruth:  Well I wish the power elite was reading these blogs, but I strongly doubt it.  Occasonally the CIA-FBI-NSA may dip in for a look, and write something down in their little black book,  but other than that, the “establishment” seems completely impervious, sad to say.  If they had been paying attention, much of the current scene would not have happened.  It’s that locked-in-at-the-top, only certain people able to reach certain other people that causes the myopia—that, plus a supine press that finds it easier to take handouts from officials and think tanks than do the grunt work of research.

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By SteveL, December 20, 2010 at 12:07 am Link to this comment

Yeah that 1st amendment is a real bitch!  Come on Biden buck up.

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By seshaw, December 19, 2010 at 11:09 pm Link to this comment
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Biden is hypocrite of the month!  Check out his comments the day before the MTP interview was taped.  Seems as if he was off his talking points and uttered the rarely heard candor about the Wikileaks revelations. Someone must have corrected him and set him back on the paths of Washington-style righteousness.  Courtesy of Glenn Greenwald:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/

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By bluewombat, December 19, 2010 at 11:03 pm Link to this comment
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The only people terrorized are ruling-class apparatchiks like Biden who don’t want us proles to see how they’re running the country into the ground.

Too bad he wasn’t so quick with the clever rhetoric when he was chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and allowed Clarence Thomas to sail through.

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By fearnotruth, December 19, 2010 at 10:11 pm Link to this comment

RE: If each one of these comments went directly to Biden as well as here,

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

you don’t think several of his staff are assigned to nothing other than tracking numerous public-comment blogs like these? and, since they’re ‘public’ rather than private missives, don’t you think they hold more weight?

as for that, I would again recommend caution in avoiding the lemming urge, especially as evidence builds that the ‘leaks’, as Brzezinski points out - and yes, there’s much cause to question why he does - are “...surprisingly pointed…” and possibly “...manipulated by interested parties…” even perhaps “...operations internationally, intelligence services, that are feeding stuff to WikiLeaks,”

from http://tinyurl.com/23y7s2x

ask this:

1. who benefits from the massive groundswell of mistrust roused by these ‘leaks’, in particular toward Iran and Pakistan? 

2. as for rousing hatred toward the US, have the ‘leaks’ caused it to perceptibly grow… could it have been any worse?

e.g. ”...in the world of politics, sadly, things are never as innocent as they appear. According to new revelations, Assange had allegedly struck a deal with Israel before the recent ‘cable gate’, which may explain why the leaks “were good for Israel,” as the Israeli prime minister put it.”

from http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/12/07/18665978.php

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By samosamo, December 19, 2010 at 9:24 pm Link to this comment

Old joe. Obviously Jeff Dunham’s puppet, Walter,
come to life, is really showing his ‘independent’
spirit since his interview with andrea mitchell a
couple of nights ago. Hate to say it, but it might
be better to hope nothing happens to o, cause
having walter.. un, ol joe step into the presidency
would be a total disaster.

All of this brought to us by the military industrial
financial congressional cia msm complex, the
‘greatest’ movers and shakers’ of a subverted
world, who can’t stand the idea of ‘real and
investigative journalism’ still existing on this
planet.

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By firefly, December 19, 2010 at 9:08 pm Link to this comment

It is a sad indictment on the administration, that
the truth is considered dangerous.

The US’s line is that it’s better to perpetuate a lie
to keep people safe. Keep who safe? The thousands and
thousands that die under the ever expanding violence
of America’s Military Industrial Complex?

I don’t buy it anymore. I don’t believe in this
nonsense about national security and defense. After
all, it would be cheaper to keep our soldiers at home
protecting America than sending them to fight in
other people’s countries.

Everytime, the US government talks about protecting
American interests it actually means, protecting
Halliburton, Exxon Mobile and Chevron. US soldiers
are not dying defending America, they are dying
defending a rich, corrupt, greedy, corporate
minority.

The truth simply exposes the danger for those greedy
rich corporate bosses and their stooges in government
and the Pentagon.

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By rollzone, December 19, 2010 at 8:58 pm Link to this comment

hello. Joe the abomination on reality. the war is
leaking into Yemen, the never ending blank check
against terrorism: to destroy the American dollar. we
buy Russian helicopters to fight in Afghanistan, and
China and Russia know the dollar can not last. Joe the
abomination is from the rely on government belt of
America, and does not know he is a minority player. we
need to close half the federal government. let’s begin
by firing the Vice President.

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By gerard, December 19, 2010 at 8:55 pm Link to this comment

If each one of these comments went directly to Biden as well as here, that would be more comments than he has probably gotten in a week—shined up, of course, with enough “politesse” to encourage him to read it.  A little bit of homegrown diplomacy might be a very good thing for the Vice.

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By PatrickHenry, December 19, 2010 at 8:52 pm Link to this comment

Slap that label on him Joe.

What is it you do anyway?

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By babycatajesus, December 19, 2010 at 7:49 pm Link to this comment

Hey Joe - don’t the truth hurt…...?

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By Robespierre115, December 19, 2010 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment

The only high-tech terrorist is the man with the job title of President raining hellfire by drones in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

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By Ralph Kramden, December 19, 2010 at 5:50 pm Link to this comment
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Joe Biden, the man who went to Israel and, when the Israeli’s slapped him in the face and spat at him by building sttlements, did not have the self respect to get back on the plane and fly back home, but istead groveled before the Israeli government and said something to the effect that his whole career had been invested in furthering and protecting the interests of Israel. This man, who doesn’t seem to know which country he is suppose to represent, and pays obeisance to the greatest state terrorist in the world; this man has the chutzpah to call a journalist a terrorist. Biden has never read the first ammendment. Why does anyone take his pronouncements seriously? Anyone who doubts that Israel is the greatest state terrorist, should read the sickening that article in Newsweek, is it? about “Killing the Killers.” Al Capone has nothing on these perverts.

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By marcus medler, December 19, 2010 at 5:15 pm Link to this comment

Biden will swear Christ is white-ish with blond -ish hair. He has seen Santa Claus
and feels that if poor people learn how to wear a suit all will be well for them.

He is sort of sure Henry Miller and D.H. Lawrence are pornographic writers and -I
have heard him say; “I go to bed at 8.00 and sleep like a baby.

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By Queenie, December 19, 2010 at 5:08 pm Link to this comment

Flap your gums, Joe, it just won’t fly.

Warmonger!

Piss off!

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By fearnotruth, December 19, 2010 at 4:37 pm Link to this comment

more smoke, more mirrors - scripted cover-up in motion - reinforce the ‘legend’

all roads lead to 9/11

Assange: “I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.”

deconstructed:

http://tinyurl.com/2f6q5b4

http://tinyurl.com/29dxvsk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TheJPboU4c&feature=player_embedded

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By G.Anderson, December 19, 2010 at 4:00 pm Link to this comment

What else can he say? Those who depend on lies must fear the truth. Live in fear of
the truth, their every foot step is haunted by the truth.

Of course their scared shitless that someone will reveal it? In that sense,  yes they live
in terror.

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By gerard, December 19, 2010 at 3:42 pm Link to this comment

Note:  (from report)  One day Biden thinks “there’s been no substantive damage.” For Meet the Press he’s changed to:  “seemed to suggest” and “it would be considered criminal if it could be established that ...”  Biden’s chief allegation:  “has done things (what things?) that have damaged (what damage?) and put in jeopoardy? (what jeoardy)  the lives and occupations of people in other parts of the world” (who and where, specifically)? 

And in summary “it makes things more cumbersome” if Biden has to meet “world leaders” alone, without staff.”

Biden needs to be called out on this kind of loose talk, especially on the big Sunday talk show.

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