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Beck’s Jeebus Boo-Boo

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Posted on Mar 14, 2010
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Glenn Beck has managed to piss off religious folk by ordering his listeners to “run as fast as you can” from churches that talk about “social justice and economic justice.” That doesn’t sit too well with Catholics, people who like to quote that justice-loving hippie Jesus and even Beck’s own Mormon church.

Christians talk about social justice all the time, but those are code words, Beck explains. “It’s a very good chance that people don’t know what it is. That’s why you have to educate yourself.” Sounds like Dr. Beck needs to take his own prescription.

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By nemesis2010, March 17, 2010 at 2:31 pm Link to this comment

@ samosamo:

And it’s quotes like that one that have all the jeebus creationist goons’ panties all twisted in a knot.

The Board removed Thomas Jefferson from the Texas curriculum’s world history standards on Enlightenment thinking, “replacing him with religious right icon John Calvin.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/13/texas-textbook-massacre-u_n_498003.html

John Calvin and enlightenment thinking? That’s like Wall Street bankers and honesty role modeling, it’s like Catholic priests and celibacy, like republicans and literacy.

” There is no arguing with the pretenders to a divine knowledge and to a divine mission. They are possessed with the sin of pride, they have yielded to the perennial temptation.” –Walter Lippmann

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By nemesis2010, March 17, 2010 at 12:37 pm Link to this comment

@ samosamo:

And it’s quotes like that one that have all the jeebus creationist goons’ panties all twisted in a knot.

The Board removed Thomas Jefferson from the Texas curriculum’s world history standards on Enlightenment thinking, “replacing him with religious right icon John Calvin.”

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By Henry, March 17, 2010 at 12:07 pm Link to this comment
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Get Joe Cannon fired as editor of the Deseret News over Pedophile Cover Up!

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By samosamo, March 16, 2010 at 4:32 pm Link to this comment

By nemesis2010, March 16 at 3:34 pm

I always like to run up on little nuggets like this:

““I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I
do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one
redeeming feature.


They are all alike founded on fables and mythology.

Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the
introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined
and imprisoned.

What has been the effect of this coercion?

To make one half of the world fools and the other half
hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth.
               
Thomas Jefferson

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By nemesis2010, March 16, 2010 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment

@ Bot:

Can you present scripture that backs up your claim that the purpose of charity is to ennoble the giver and receiver?

Jeebus’ “render unto Ceasar” is about church/state separation. No mixing of the religious matters with that heathen Caesar, and the rest of that bunch of pagans! It has absolutely nothing to do with charity. That’s one hell of a stretch! (no pun intended)

What AmeriCorp gives is in no way charity. The money that AmeriCorp has is coercively confiscated or printed out of thin air and charged to the public—as well as the yet unborn—and coercively collected. Not only is there absolutely no voice representing the unborn but it can also be argued that the only voice being represented during current generations is that of those who receive the largest share of all that AmeriCorp “charity”; Big Corp and Big Mutli-Inter Corp!

Now, if you’ll kindly step with me into the Book of Acts:

”And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them.” 4:32

Collectivism in the first century church! OPPS!


The only way Christianity can be portrayed as Ayn Rand objectivism (greed is good but avarice is even better) is if you mix it with all that psychopathic tribal religion from the Old Testament and even then it is a massive fail. Why? Because you cannot find a single verse in either testament that speaks well of greed.

Christianity is mythology about social and economic justice as understood by first century man. Which parts of the evil empire vs. occupied and oppressed men/societies that need a Savior to free them and bring peace to the world do you not understand?

The mixing of Christianity and neo-conservatism, conservatism, fascism, corporatism, the GOP, dominioninism, the republican holy trinity, perpetual war, etc. etc. is akin to urinating on your mythological savior’s face when he begs for water while being nailed to a cross in the heat of a desert day!

Christianity, especially the AmeriCorp brand of it, proves that you so-called believers are the most delusional bunch of frickin hypocrites in the world. You all dissect that so-called inerrant word of god to the Nth degree and pick out those parts that suit your needs while throwing out the parts that prove you a bunch of ignorant, self-righteous, greedy, prejudiced, good-for-nothing sinners! That’s why there exist several thousand different Christian denominations and sects around the world. And if weren’t for enlightenment you’d all be killing each other in the name of your god, thinking that you were all doing him a favor!

You might be even more ignorant of your precious word of god than that clown Beck! There was valid reasoning behind the founders wanting separation of church and state. Their relatives had lived through the atrocities of the Inquisition, the Salem witch hunts, and many others of the innumerable malevolent barbarities that the religious have wrought upon humanity.

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By IchliebeSie, March 16, 2010 at 12:20 pm Link to this comment
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Der Empfänger der Spende ist nicht verpflichtet, Dankbarkeit zu zeigen. Obwohl die Vereinigten Staaten mehr in der Liebe als andere Völker gibt, haben die Vereinigten Staaten viel mehr Schaden anrichten, die Welt in den letzten Jahrzehnten getan. Es ist offensichtlich, dass Herr Beck nicht weiß, was er redet. Sie müssen der Art der einzelnen akzeptiert, dass genau das, was Menschen, die Sie erzählen, ohne das Lernen über Themen. Außerdem müssen Sie nur so unwissend über das Christentum, wie Herr Beck. Beenden Sie verteidigen dumme Menschen.

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By True American, March 15, 2010 at 11:46 pm Link to this comment
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the truth is that Glenn Beck really isn’t a christian he just pretends to be one to tow listeners in. I believe he showed his true colors when he was vouching for Ayn Rand a social Darwinist. All god fearing Americans should be very careful if their getting their news from this false prophet.

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By Bot, March 15, 2010 at 5:31 pm Link to this comment
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Glenn Beck, his church and several other churches understand that true charity requires to giver to give of their own free will, and the receiver to exhibit gratitude.  That is what Jesus Christ wants for us.


The United States gives a much higher percentage of our income to charity than do European nations.


Jesus told us to “render unto Caesar what is his”.  He did not say: “render under Caesar, so that he can subjugate people with “economic justice and income distribution”, so they will continue to vote for Caesar.”


Any clergyman who does not understand that the true purpose of charity is enobling to the giver and the recipient, is engaging in “social and economic justice”, Glenn wants you to flee from such clergy.

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By William W. Wexler, March 15, 2010 at 3:34 pm Link to this comment

“Although Beck professes to be a Mormon Christian, he certainly gave advice about something in which he demonstrated ignorance.  I hope the majority of USA citizens disagree with Beck’s advice.”

“Mormon Christian” is a non-sequitur.

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By TAO Walker, March 15, 2010 at 2:45 pm Link to this comment

“THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT!!!!”

HokaHey!

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By samosamo, March 15, 2010 at 2:13 pm Link to this comment

Never underestimate what religion and the msm can and will
do to take your children’s minds away.

It is tough for a parent(s) to raise a kid much less try to make
sure that they are not unduly influenced by those intent on
taking a child’s mind.

The mainstream media has worked hard to not just capture
those salient Saturday morning moments but to also take
whack at mom and dad’s inner longings and with the
appearance of television, both of these are much easier to
accomplish.

If anyone is so hooked on religion, well organized and
established religions, then it is a harder task to realize how to
know if what one is convinced to believe is really true or just
faith, both meaning no ground basis in much of any thing
because religion has had many thousands of years to cultivate
its chicanery to make people believe that there are just a few
who know a god and can converse with a god, oh, and for
your ‘benefit’.

Your way out will have to be a look into the beginnings of all
current religions especially beginning with the early Egyptian
Astro-theology or astrology.

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By WriterOnTheStorm, March 15, 2010 at 10:52 am Link to this comment

The comedian Gallagher had a middling career until he introduced a novelty
routine in which he would smash watermelons into his hapless audience. For
years afterward, he filled stadiums with thousands of people eager to get
pummeled with bits of pulped fruits and vegetables.

But before the edible denouement commenced, the crowd would get a dose of
Gallagher philosophy, the key point of which was that 25% of the population is
terminally stupid. They are stupid beyond help and hope. No matter what the
rest of us say or do, those 25% are going to stick to their guns. At this, the
Homer Simpsons in the front rows laughed as one and said to themselves, “Yea,
all those rubes.”

Gallagher was never able to escape his act and became the watermelon guy in
popular culture, but over time his show developed a layer of irony when he
began implying that his own audience might have been part of that ignoble 25%.
As they drove home from the show, picking watermelon from their hair, some of
them might have even realized that they’d been had.

Of course Gallagher never said that it was always the same 25% of the
population, just that on any given point, 25% could be counted on to NOT get it.
With those kind of numbers, it’s no surprise that a novelty act like Glenn Beck’s
would have some success. But what does surprise is the makeup of his
audience. It seems a good number of the folks tuning in are lefties set abuzz by
Beck’s smash-o-matic political stylings.

Part of the problem, is that so many of the terminally stupid just don’t know it.
Well here’s a hint; if you’re still paying attention to anything Beck says, welcome
to the 25 percent.  C’mon Truthdig, wipe the watermelon off your face. It’s time
to move on.

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By zeroinfinity, March 15, 2010 at 10:06 am Link to this comment
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Glenn Beck:

You mean to tell me that people should run from churches that preach social and economic justice?!?  Really?  Wow… That’s not cool.  Despite USA citizens having freedom of speech and that you are full of piss and vinegar 99.9% of the time, surely you can not be serious?  I mean… you must be joking to suggest such - I don’t know - insane advice. 

Perhaps this is Beck’s way of proselytizing?  Forgive me, I am trying to wrap my head around what he said simply because it is so unbelievable to hear, even though these words were spoken by Beck.  I have heard some crazy stuff in my life; but, that’s pretty crazy.

I suggest that Beck should read the Gospels - the first four books of the New Testament named Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  He should at least read them to get a better understanding how Jesus Christ was portrayed, especially his later years.  For a more in-depth portrayal of Jesus Christ, Beck should check out the books “The Apocrypha” and “The Nag Hammadi Library.”  Both of these books are fascinating for reference on this subject.  After his own personal research, I am sure that Beck would have enough knowledge about Jesus Christ to refrain from suggesting that people should stay away from churches committed to social and economic justice.  Beck may even share this new-found knowledge with his audience.

Although Beck professes to be a Mormon Christian, he certainly gave advice about something in which he demonstrated ignorance.  I hope the majority of USA citizens disagree with Beck’s advice.

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By robert puglia, March 15, 2010 at 8:53 am Link to this comment
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it is buffoonery to remind that beck is a buffoon. again with the ridiculous.

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By photoshock, March 15, 2010 at 7:35 am Link to this comment

The idea that people listen to hate-mongering and scare
tactic people like Glenn Beck shows the depth to which the American educational system has sunk.
No longer are children taught to think for themselves they are conditioned to listen to ‘authority’ and to take people masquerading as ‘authority’ at their words and to walk lock step into the fray of the ‘global elite!’
We cannot let this happen any longer, it is neither a right nor left issue, but an issue of freedom and education that is facing us today. The Global Elite, does not want the world’s population to be able to think for themselves and therefore have dumbed down America’s and the world’s educational systems, so much so that the masses cannot any longer think for themselves but listen to Far Right Wing Nuts and fascistic thinking people like Glenn Beck, Bill’O and the most infamous of all Rush Limbaugh.
Stop the madness people, teach your children to question authority and to think for themselves, even if it means having your children question you at every turn.
Unless and until you do this, the world will continue
on the path to self-destruction and annihilation of the masses.

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By don knutsen, March 15, 2010 at 7:26 am Link to this comment
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Fear not Beck, as Faux News already has demonstrated over and over again, the collective attention span of the american people is about as long as a silverfish. This will die on the vine as soon as some celebrity gets caught with a body part exposed or another congressman gets caught in the bathroom with an intern. The media was transformed years ago, thru the monopolies of our info. sources into a propoganda distributor of the wealthy specifically to keep us entertained and NOT informed. Keeping so many, in the dark as to who is really pulling the strings is how you replace a democracy with a corporate controlled government. Unfortunately a large share of our people would still prefer to let someone else think for them which works just fine for them. Texas ( ofcourse ) is currently about to revise their educational system to push more conservative ideals and turn away from the democracy that was created by our founding fathers at the behest of these same religous hypocrits who watched us kill for big oil. But I do have one question: Where the hell was the religous spokesman while we invaded a country and started killing on a mass scale without requiring even truth why ?

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By Henry, March 15, 2010 at 7:25 am Link to this comment
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Dump Joe Cannon as editor of the Deseret News over Pedophile Cover Up!

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By pacrat, March 15, 2010 at 4:42 am Link to this comment
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Hey! Don’t pick on Beck! He is doing the best he can with his 18 IQ ! (Actually, it’s 38! Oh wait, that’s his neck size!)

Loved his interview with former representative massa!

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By Ouroborus, March 15, 2010 at 2:46 am Link to this comment

William W. Wexler, March 14 at 9:59 pm

Cult it is! You’re 100% correct.
Anybody who believes the fantastical writings and
ignores the true history of this fairy tale; has lost
their minds.
There is just too much “real” history out there to not
see this shame for what it is. EOM.

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By Night-Gaunt, March 14, 2010 at 8:27 pm Link to this comment

Beck has really used the shot gun in the crowded elevator this time. Caught too many in the blast. Imagine making “social justice” and “economic justice” into words of evil? He did and stepped on far too many toes this time.

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By William W. Wexler, March 14, 2010 at 6:59 pm Link to this comment

Glenn Beck should really watch his step on this one.

Beck is a Mormon, which is nothing more or less than a cult.  This is not only my opinion, it is also supported by a cult specialist’s definition of what actually constitutes a cult.  On my website I have written a condensed history of the Mormon “church” and the nature of their cult.  You can see it here….

http://glennbeckreport.com/page/2/

The source I quote on my website describes cults perfectly and there is no doubt that Mormons meet the criteria.  It’s all about control of the group, authoritarian, fear-based, in-group/out-group, proselytizing, money-grubbing, and other characteristics that fit the Mormons to the tee.  The checklist was developed by Janja Lalich, Ph.D. & Michael D. Langone, Ph.D., two doctors at International Cultic Studies Association. 

I never used to really give a flip about cults or religion until I found out that the Mormons have a history of immersion in right wing nuttery.  The latest version of this is their crusade against LGBT marriage, which seems odd given that they lost their sacrament of polygamy due to US Federal laws.  You’d think they might have a bit of compassion. 

However, they don’t.  In fact, Mormons poured $18 million into a smear campaign to pass Prop 8 in California and another $2 million to pass Question 1 in Maine.  Both of these referendums overturned LGBT marriage laws.  I am bracing for it here in Iowa, although my state representative has told me that he doesn’t believe the Mormons will have any traction on this at all.

So, in my opinion, and the opinion of others, the Mormons are a cult masquerading as a church which is actually a political action group hiding the identity of its donors PLUS evading having to pay taxes on the billions they rake in from their cult members. Sweet.

Glenn Beck should avoid having any conversation about religion whatsoever.  By doing that, he raises the chance that fundie Xtains will realize that he’s actually a Mormon, which are generally despised by the religious right.  I believe this is the fault line upon which the Teabaggers will split and am halfway through my 4 part series on this topic.

-Wexler

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By FiftyGigs, March 14, 2010 at 6:34 pm Link to this comment

Trivial on the face of it.

Beck’s only worried because this sensationalism might
actually affect ratings adversely, beyond even his
ability to cry out “I just love Jesus so!” and turn
his sheep around.

Clearly, though, Beck has revealed the fascist agenda
behind his motivation. All his other crap was thickly
enough veiled so as to be argumentative. This,
however, is pretty plain. Churches who advocate
justice, especially for the poor, are evil.

Beck neatly goose steps right along with Liz Cheney
now, but soon we may have another pair of boots on
the ground. The wife of Clarence Thomas reportedly
wants to become more active in groups allied with the
Republican Party, groups wanting to destroy or “fix”
government from which she draws comfort by virtue of
the fact that her husband is employed by it.

Mrs. Thomas is free to participate in politics. Heck,
she can be head of the RNC if she wants, and, yes,
she’d even be doing her Tea Party duty by deposing
her husband in a bid to “take back” the country (I
guess, although it seems strange).

The real problem is that her husband is subject to
impeachment. Hopefully he’s every bit the brilliant
legal mind he said he was at his confirmation
hearing. He’ll have a lot of explaining to do between
now and November.

Mr. Steele? Mr. McConnell? Say goodbye to your mid-
term, “repeal healthcare” strategy.

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By samosamo, March 14, 2010 at 5:39 pm Link to this comment

So, so sad that far too many people listen to this clown and
believe him; certainly another poster child of how people are
quite readily made to not think for themselves.

I don’t want to see or know what this ‘history we have not seen
before’ is all about and how it is history and no one as ever seen
it to know if it is history; reminds me of trying to find the
miracles of the sun of god found written by the known
philosophers of that era.

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