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Israeli Court Convicts Arab of Rape Because He Claimed to be Jewish

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Posted on Jul 23, 2010

A Palestinian man was convicted by an Israeli court of “rape by deception” after a Jewish woman he had consensual sex with grew enraged after discovering he had lied to her when he claimed to be Jewish. The judges’ ruling was defended as a defense of the innocent from “sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals,” but at least one local commentator argued the court would have never held the same position if it had been a Jewish man and an Arab woman.

The Guardian:

A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman who had believed him to be a fellow Jew.

Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Monday after the court ruled that he was guilty of rape by deception. According to the complaint filed by the woman with the Jerusalem district court, the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.

When she later found out that he was not Jewish but an Arab, she filed a criminal complaint for rape and indecent assault.

Although Kashur was initially charged with rape and indecent assault, this was changed to a charge of rape by deception as part of a plea bargain arrangement.

Handing down the verdict, Tzvi Segal, one of three judges on the case, acknowledged that sex had been consensual but said that although not “a classical rape by force,” the woman would not have consented if she had not believed Kashur was Jewish.

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By Leefeller, July 25, 2010 at 7:42 am Link to this comment

A little Sexism!

Nemisis posted;

“I can’t help but wonder: When she had her O face moment, did she cry out “O Jehovah” or “O Allah”?”

From what I recall of the joke about Jewish women, it went something like this;

“Jewish women do not have an O moment, instead they complain about the ceiling needing to be painted!”

Now this may only be possible with Jewish men, because I heard it from a Jewish comedian, one could suppose using the Jewish missionary position, so the whole crux of the womens problem, could have been a real O moment?

Those fornicating Palestinians have no respect!

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By Gmonst, July 24, 2010 at 12:11 pm Link to this comment

Just another example of Israel’s endemic racism.  Reminds me an awful lot of the way we at one time treated sexual relations between Black men and white women here in the United States. 

It all stems from the idea (stated or not) that the “clean and pure” Jewish woman was defiled by having sex with a “dirty and impure” Arab man.

Never mind that she consented to sex with him shortly after meeting him, she bears no responsibility for getting to know the person she has sex with.

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By Heretic, July 24, 2010 at 11:09 am Link to this comment
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Another jerky guy lies to a woman in order to go to bed with her.

Still, this should not be the stuff of prison sentences or arrests.  Starting to sound
kind of Talibanistic.

If we had this kind of law in the U.S., I shiver to think what percentage of the male
population would sitting in jail cells at taxpayer expense, in addition to the
masses of people we already have locked up for “non-violent” offenses.

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By Leefeller, July 24, 2010 at 7:58 am Link to this comment

Just a case of improper conduct in the eyes of one person and not the other?

Deception is okay in politics, but when it comes to the bigoted as this, maybe this guy just wanted to be Jewish to see how it felt for the night sort of like a black guy in the south wanting to be white?

I have heard stories about Jewish women and a few jokes, well it could have been worse. The guy could have told the women he was rich! I have met a few Jewish women in my time checking them out could be in the cards, especially if a person happened to be a comic or a masochist.

You know they could put Bush and Chaney in jail under the same ruling.

The following recent DOJ review seems appropriate.

“The DOJ criminal review didn’t exonerate Gonzales and his team–far from it. The Justice Department’s letter to the Judiciary Committee explained that they clearly engaged in improper conduct, but it focused on an absence of clear-cut evidence that would make out a criminal case.”

Wonder if the Palestinian guy is going to go back and paint the ceiling?

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By PatrickHenry, July 24, 2010 at 7:19 am Link to this comment

Inherit,

“Then it could be worse:  If a Jewish man lied about being a Moslem to bed an Arab woman in an Arab nation, how long do you think he’d survive?  Then again, how long do you think SHE would survive (assuming she was foolish enough to admit it)”.

Which arab countries besides Saudi Arabia do you speack of?

Moderate arab countries like Morocco and Algeria have progressive governments in which this would be a big joke.  I dare to think even in Iran where there is a significant Jewish population that young men are preying on the gullibility of young women every day.

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By Robert, July 24, 2010 at 6:48 am Link to this comment

‘Arab man attacked for talking to Jewish girl’

Twenty-three year old rushed to hospital unconscious after being beaten with heavy metal object at Tiberias gas station, sustaining serious injuries. Suspect yet to be apprehended

Ahiya Raved

07.22.10, 10:56 / Israel News
 

A 23-year-old Arab man sustained serious injuries after being attacked in Tiberias, allegedly for talking to a young Jewish woman. Police are still searching for the suspected assailant, a 19-year-old who fled the scene.

According to police, it is not yet clear whether the attack was nationalistically motivated and whether there was any connection between the suspect and the young woman.

The attack occurred on Tuesday night in a gas station in Tiberias. Superintendent Jacky Dan of Tiberias Police told Ynet that the investigation indicates that the young Arab man, who resides with his family in the city, was talking to a girl he knew prior to the assault.


The suspect arrived at the site and the two got into an argument. The suspect angrily asked on what right was the victim talking to the woman and proceeded to hit him in the head.

According to police estimates, the Arab was beaten with a heavy metal object, which the suspect held inside a plastic bag. The victim then lost consciousness and was rushed to the Rambam Medical Center in Haifa.”


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Click on link for the rest:

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3923576,00.html

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By rico, suave, July 24, 2010 at 4:12 am Link to this comment

dihey:

Although you are loathe to make the comparison, you do it anyway. And of course you compare apples and oranges. The guy was NOT arrested for having sex with a Jew, he was arrested for misrepresenting himself to her. A HUGE difference.

ITW: Good points, but be careful here. You might get accused of changing the subject.

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By dihey, July 24, 2010 at 3:55 am Link to this comment

As readers of his site know I am loath to make comparisons of present happenings to Hitler’s Germany. However, this action is right out of Hitler’s Aryan legal playbook which made sex between Aryans and Jews a crime of both.

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By Sherwoodeg, July 23, 2010 at 9:53 pm Link to this comment

This is ridiculous. This is what makes news? I agree
with everyone on this page, men have been lying and
playing acts to get women since the beginning of time.
Myself included, come on now.

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By Tim, July 23, 2010 at 9:14 pm Link to this comment
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Holy Sh**! And they call themselves a civilized country?

Man, at least in the Jim Crow South you didn’t have to worry about stuff like this.

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By Inherit The Wind, July 23, 2010 at 7:46 pm Link to this comment

So…every man who said “Yes, Baby, of course I love you” is a rapist.
So…every man who said “of course I’ll respect you in the morning” is a rapist.
So…every man who said “You are the most beautiful woman in the world” is a rapist.

This is offensive and, dare I say it? Racist.  There is NO WAY this would ever pass the straight-faced test in any Western country. Even in places like Utah it’s be laughed out of the police station, much less court.

Then it could be worse:  If a Jewish man lied about being a Moslem to bed an Arab woman in an Arab nation, how long do you think he’d survive?  Then again, how long do you think SHE would survive (assuming she was foolish enough to admit it).

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By PatrickHenry, July 23, 2010 at 7:31 pm Link to this comment

Men have been lying to get into the pants of women since Eden went bust.

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By Malcontent, July 23, 2010 at 6:03 pm Link to this comment

Jail time for men who tell lies to get in to womens pants.

That will help to aleviate traffic and create jobs building prisons. Hopefully they can get them completed before all the workers have to be incarcerated inn them.

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By James, July 23, 2010 at 4:51 pm Link to this comment
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That’s pretty low - speaks less of women than men.  Consensual sex is consensual sex.

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By Preachin'Papa, July 23, 2010 at 4:48 pm Link to this comment
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There are many aspects to this story. One aspect is glaringly obvious, and is indisputable proof of what many of us already know. Another aspect would be that deception for immoral purposes has its consequences. The most telling aspect is that sexual promiscuity causes a lot of grief.

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By rico, suave, July 23, 2010 at 4:38 pm Link to this comment

What self-respecting Arab would have sex with a Jew??? This is obviously a bogus story.

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By Peter Knopfler, July 23, 2010 at 4:33 pm Link to this comment

I`m not sure do Arabs circumsize or supersize!
What about female impersonators, or gender benders, well you can get locked down for lieing, other than that how else could he be mistaken for a Jew, i guess he didn`t have enough money. To laugh at ourselves is a gift!

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