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Posted on Nov 22, 2009
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Sen. Harry Reid speaks ahead of the showdown Senate vote on moving to debate a landmark health care reform bill.

After a tumultuous lead-up, the U.S. Senate has voted to hold full debate on a health care reform bill. The vote was 60-39, with all Republicans, except one who was absent, hitting the “no” button.

The BBC:

The US Senate has narrowly voted to hold a full debate on a landmark bill designed to overhaul the country’s healthcare.

All 58 Democrats, plus two independent senators, approved it. All but one of 40 Republican senators voted against.

Two Democratic senators whose support had been in doubt earlier said they would back the package, a key election pledge of President Barack Obama.

The White House said Mr Obama was “gratified” by the result.

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By KDelphi, November 23, 2009 at 6:37 pm Link to this comment

The “pre-existing conditions” clause is a fraud—it was just as I thought—they will still allow insurance companies to charge people up to 3 times as much as those without conditions. 

It will be like the credit card bill… 

NYCArtist—I agree and good links! Everyone should check them out before they support this piece of crap.

Blackspeare—they day “the poor” benefit from anything in U S of A society, will be when there is a coup and not before. Never fear, the Dems dont care enough about the poor to give them anything. 

We are not a big enough voting bloc. And, at the rate poor peopel are realizing how little the Dems will do for them, we will be a smaller voting bloc..I can just see trying to urge people to get out and vote in 2010…it was hard enough before.

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By Blackspeare, November 23, 2009 at 2:58 pm Link to this comment

You can stick a fork in the US of A, they’re just about done!

When Reid has to offer Landrieu an appropriations bribe to get her vote on a procedural matter just goes to show how lame the US Congress is!!!  Whenever the final legislation is enacted the only people who will benefit are the poor and the middle class will once again bear the brunt of the ultimate cost.

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By NYCartist, November 23, 2009 at 2:33 pm Link to this comment

After the debate, I want single-payer, medicare for all. http://www.pnhp.org  Physicians for a National Health Program have stated that the whole bill in House (and now Senate)needs rewriting and to start from “scratch”.  These bills are ....See http://www.blackagendareport.com

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By rico, suave, November 23, 2009 at 8:43 am Link to this comment

Why are you two so eager to let government take over so much of your lives?

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By Outraged, November 23, 2009 at 2:35 am Link to this comment

Re: ChaoticGood

I second that.  In fact, I’ll do it WITH EMPHASIS.  It matters.  Here we go:

The Republicans have now proven that they do not care about the average American citizen.  Is this news to anyone?

Since they are now on record opposing healthcare legislation, there is no need to listen to their chatter about modifications to the bill.  The Democrats should decide what should be in the bill to suit themselves and ignore the Republicans entirely. 

They have nothing of any interest to offer unless you want fear mongering, racism, homophobia and endless wars on nouns.

The Democrats must re-double their efforts to construct a very good bill that will help the average American and prove once and for all that the Republicans are not to be trusted with power ever again.”

Good post.

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By ChaoticGood, November 23, 2009 at 1:22 am Link to this comment

The Republicans have now proven that they do not care about the average American citizen.  Is this news to anyone?

Since they are now on record opposing healthcare legislation, there is no need to listen to their chatter about modifications to the bill.  The Democrats should decide what should be in the bill to suit themselves and ignore the Republicans entirely. 

They have nothing of any interest to offer unless you want fear mongering, racism, homophobia and endless wars on nouns.

The Democrats must re-double their efforts to construct a very good bill that will help the average American and prove once and for all that the Republicans are not to be trusted with power ever again.

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