Re: Lafayette

Your comment: ” If the OWS movement thinks they
can build a viable third-party, they are very, very
wrong.”

I wouldn’t worry about this overly much, some will
always vote third party and most likely the Dems
never had their vote anyway. Outside of that, it’s a
long way to Nov. 2012. Right-wing trolls will be here
endorsing third party green votes to undermine
Obama. But again, the boards were riddled with their
nonsense in 2008 and it didn’t work.

The problem in 2010 was the showing at the polls, but
this is why the Repugs are attempting to violate law
and deny people their vote, literally.

The Repugs, tea party or not, have clearly shown they are stooges for the rich,
without regard for anyone else. I agree with you, the
Dems is the ONLY answer… retake our party.

I look at it this way, after the election (2012) Obama
doesn’t need to kowtow to anyone. They’ll (big money)
place their bets of course, and they know their line-
up sucks, so they’ll also throw money Obama’s way as a last ditch pitch for their cause. They did this when they made contributions to Nader (2004), undermining the Dems. They’ll do it again, it’s all but guaranteed.

Fact is, they’re screwed if Obama’s elected and they know it.
That’s why they’ve been working, since Obama has been elected to make him “a one term President”.

Lafayette - I know they’re ‘big’ ideas but the
electorate needs to understand the GOP.  The so-
called Right represents the America of fear, a false
reading of the past and the present - manifested by
envy, intolerance, ungenerousity and false
patriotism.  Who’s going to shout it from the
housetops but the Left.

(And then there’s the American media.  TV has the
capacity (and uses it in spades) to distract, delude,
amuse and insulate. And who better to carry out the
‘mission’ but would-be actors, not journalists. No
self-respecting journalist would allow
himself/herself to be connected with TV’s so-called
news programs.)

A PROGRESSIVE AGENCDA

Quinlan: Occupy DC ostensibly sought to declare its independence Wednesday night from the Democratic Party, the liberal activist group MoveOn.org and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), all of whom, protesters fear, are trying to co-opt the movement to win votes in 2012 and advance an agenda equally as corrupt and beholden to monied special interests as that of Republicans.

This is a great shame. If the OWS movement thinks they can build a viable third-party, they are very, very wrong.

That is not the way our political system of Money Messaging, Redistricting and Winner-take-all voting works. Which is an intricate and complex process to maintain the political status-quo.

It would be far, far easier to co-opt the present Democrat Party, which has numerous “progressive politicians” and upon that base to change it. Progressive Politics is anathema to the Rabid Right, so allow the troglodytes there to shamefully self-destruct.

Reformation of the Dem-Party is a long-term success and cannot happen overnight. If the OWS movement wants a QuickFix (to a monstrously complex problem) that will effect the outcome of the November elections, then they are moving in the direction of the “also ran” party.

Just ask Ralph Nader or look at any other movement that tried to do so in recent history.

This time is different? No, it isn’t. The level of outrage and indignation IS different - but the political dynamic that decides elections hasn’t changed. The Right will vote Right and the Left will vote Left and the middle will switch in either direction to make the victor.

(Not to mention the shameful way voters stay at home. A large voter turnout helps the Left more than the Right.)

It is that swing vote in the middle that must be addressed with the right arguments. And that is not happening today. Nowhere is there a coalescence around a Progressive Agenda that describes what policies are necessary to reform America. (Especially addressing America’s Number One priority, which is to correct the glaring Income/Wealth Disparity by means of taxation policy.)

And that is what we, the sheeple, need to see clearly expressed in a party’s platform.