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Posted on Jun 3, 2010
AP / Dogan family

U.S.-born Furkan Dogan is shown in a 2008 photo made available by his family.  The 19-year-old American citizen was one of nine activists killed by Israeli military forces Monday in the takeover of a flotilla of aid ships bound for Gaza.

One of the nine flotilla passengers shot dead by Israeli commandos was a 19-year-old American-born student named Furkan Dogan. He was shot four times in the head and once in the chest.

Washington Post:

The American citizen was identified by the Anatolia news agency as Furkan Dogan, a 19-year-old student. His body had four bullet wounds to the head and one to the chest, the news agency reported.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Thursday that President Obama expresses his deep condolences to his family. “Obviously this is extremely horrible news for them,” Gibbs said. “Our ambassador [to Turkey] has been in touch with his father and I would reiterate that we have with the U.N. Security Council condemned the acts that have led to these deaths.”

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By PatrickHenry, June 4, 2010 at 7:43 pm Link to this comment

Hamas has been trying to make peace with Israel for some time, The Israelis won’t let them.

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_533366.html

Peter, you have potential as Israeli settler, same mindset.  Lay off the pacalolo, you tend to get delusional in your claims.

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By Ed Harges, June 4, 2010 at 5:28 pm Link to this comment

re:By ocjim, June 4 at 9:12 pm:

Ocjim writes:

” But can we be critical of the Israelis when innocent people die in American
Afghanistan and Pakistan attacks.”

Oh yes we can, dear. Because America lavishly, slavishly supports Israel to such an
abject degree that when they do things like this, it directly implicates and harms
us. And it’s especially obviously our problem when they do something
like this to an American citizen (even though we’re not Chosen and special and all,
like they are).

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By ocjim, June 4, 2010 at 5:12 pm Link to this comment

I think it is pretty obvious that it is at the very least, manslaughter. But can we be critical of the Israelis when innocent people die in American Afghanistan and Pakistan attacks. It doesn’t make any difference what nationality or race innocent victims are. It is always wrong.

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By Tobysgirl, June 4, 2010 at 1:57 pm Link to this comment

YES THE 19 YEAR OLD WAS THE IDIOT THAT TOOK A FIREARM FROM THE IDF SOLDIER AND EMPTIED THE ENTIRE MAGAZINE ON OTHER ISRAEL SOLDIERS

I don’t know who would believe this garbage, apparently not most readers of this news piece. If this was true, obviously some soldiers would be dead, and I have heard no reports of any soldier deaths.

People apparently like to make up their own news, which is fine for them and the weird little world they choose to live in. However, don’t insist we join you in the fantasy in your head.

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By Ed Harges, June 4, 2010 at 1:24 pm Link to this comment

Once again, Peter K. pulls from his Chosen orifice his own personal facts, to be
found nowhere else. Hey guys, its another Peter Knopfler exclusive: the dead guy
“lived [and was] educated in a Madrassa theological school “!!!

You heard it first from Pete Knopfler - and you’ll hear it nowhere else, because it’s
a special truth he owns all by himself!!!

Peter - do I owe you royalties for repeating this patented Fact ™ ?

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By Peter Knopfler, June 4, 2010 at 12:54 pm Link to this comment

Well you CAN shove your Capital letter psyc. you know where. I checked into your 19 year old angel as I suspected, BORN IN AMERICA at 2YEARS OLD HE MOVED TO TURKEY, lived educated in a Madrassa theological school this Man could have become a violent hidden cell in the USA, like in ENGLAND. Anchor babies are used in many different ways! perfect weapon for ALLAH. Most of your comments do not deal with the reality of NOW!,Seems you have some ideal principle that is expected of Humanity, Killing is still what we do best. Like with most addictions one has to admit, not to blame others, what we, or us or USA has done also. Capital letters do not distract from the subject at hand with your cheap psyc shot, on capital letters is killing the messanger and not appreciating the message, aqd it changes the subject to me, were not talking about ME its world scenery that we are dealing with, AND NOT MY CAPITAL LETTERS, is your key board perfect?

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By dihey, June 4, 2010 at 11:44 am Link to this comment

Herr Knopfler is utterly insecure as demonstrated by his frequent use of capital letters and uncontrolled ranting. Let’s pity this poor soul. If you are religious, pray for him.

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By Géza Éder, June 4, 2010 at 11:43 am Link to this comment

For some reason, reading Peter Knopfler somehow reminds me of the War of the Jews…I kind of felt while reading that book that every evil thing that eventually happens to them was sort of foreshadowed by the (to me really incomprehensible and imo completely irrational) way they acted.  Felt like a long book about a nation’s death wish to me, a very difficult read for this reason. (Probably the most difficult to read book I’ve ever read, there’s just way too much stupidity and evil in it.) But this persons posts, especially the US-bashing remarks remind me very much of it.

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By Ed Harges, June 4, 2010 at 10:26 am Link to this comment

re:By felicity, June 4 at 2:02 pm:

I know, it’s amazing how the preposterous, shouted lies just keep coming and
coming, like that gusher in the gulf. People like Knopfler and Howard show how
Israel’s defenders win politically not by superior sophistication but by their sheer,
tireless stubbornness. Much is made of the Israel lobby’s big spending, and there
is a lot of that, but more important, I think, is the capacity of pro-Israel partisans
to wear everybody down with their endless, volcanic spewing. Imagine a
Congressman who faces the unending, hysterically vehement, merciless,
maddening insistence of these people day in and day out.

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By felicity, June 4, 2010 at 10:02 am Link to this comment

Knopfler says that ‘he’ “took a firearm from the IDF soldier and emptied the entire magazine on other Israeli soldiers…”? Amazing.  You’d think at least one Israeli soldier would have been killed.  Guess not, or we’d certainly have heard about it.  Also guess that Mr. Knopfler may not be wrapped too tightly.

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By Ed Harges, June 4, 2010 at 10:01 am Link to this comment

Peter: stop lying, stop shouting, learn to write, and please, please put a shirt
on.

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By Robert, June 4, 2010 at 9:39 am Link to this comment

Finkelstein on Flotilla Bloodbath (II)

Flotilla debate ratchets up: Norman Finkelstein and Daniel Pollack


http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/finkelstein-on-flotilla-bloodbath-ii/

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By Ed Harges, June 4, 2010 at 9:29 am Link to this comment

Peter Knopfler just makes stuff up. For example, this:

“...a 19 year old took a weapon from a soldiers and emptied the gun on other
soldiers….”

Peter, is this clownish crap all you can come up with?

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By Peter Knopfler, June 4, 2010 at 9:21 am Link to this comment

AMERICANS KILL BABIES WITH DRONES EVERYDAY and RV is worried because a 19 year old took a weapon from a soldiers and emptied the gun on other soldiers, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT He could have stayed in school in America, but NO had get involved.  How about the child soldiers of africa killing at 12, or suicide bomber from Iraq at 10 years old. Obama can`t speak his mind because he either pisses of the ARABS that he kissed in Saudi and Cairo, Or piss off the JEWS and Aipac, which will make his life miserable at home. Between a rock and His love for ALLAH. So LET JOE good old JOE will back up Israel and THE MUSLIMS WOULD^T BE AS ANGRY at OBAMA as IF THEY HEARD IT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH. that is obvious, 19 year olds can speak for themselves they don`t need your help, look at the school shootings at USA campuses, you make more of this 19 year old than the 30 students at WEST Virginia. THIS DOUBLESTAndaRD IS WHAT MAKES THE UGLY AMERICAN.SAY one thing do something else.

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By RdV, June 4, 2010 at 8:53 am Link to this comment

He was just a kid and they executed him.
Israel exploits their victimhood as cover to hide their brutality and believes that they can act this way after what the world has done to them. To preserve their status a victim they seek to suppress the genocides of other groups and that is truly reprehensible.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/RespectingHolocaust.html

Maybe for once it would serve them to think of themselves a human beings before their allegiance to tribe.

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By Peter Knopfler, June 4, 2010 at 6:59 am Link to this comment

Lets look at the record…REGAN THE BUTCHER OF NICARAGUA, BUSH BUTCHER OF IRAQ, OBAMA BUTCHER OF AFGHANISTAN; PAKISTAN; YEMEN AND SOON SOMALIA AGAIN. USA ripped off HAITI since 1915, I can`t beleive how little history people know about their own MASONIC HISTORY, AMERICANS ARE DUMB TO THEIR OWN HISTORY AND OTHERS THEY KNOW LESS. UNBELEIVABLE THAT THE DUMBEST THINK THEY KNOW. YOUR SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL STARTED TO submerge with OBAMA`S SPEECH IN CAIRO, lots of lies about Israel History butt kissing to the ARABS, easy for OBAMA because of his early education in Indonesia Madrassas, for little HUSSAIN. WELL MOST OF YOUR LIFE TIME THINKING PATTERNS ARE BY AGE OF 8, why Madrassa start at 5. I feel like I`m giving a history lesson, READ PEOPLE KNOW YOUR STUFF.

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By Robert, June 4, 2010 at 6:58 am Link to this comment

Hey Knopfler...Your diversions/sidetracking attempts are noticeable on TD…

Your Israeli IDF killers shot this 19 year old American four (4) times in the head and one (1) time in the chest. Those mercy zionist murderers have NO value for non-Jewish lives.

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By Ed Harges, June 4, 2010 at 6:35 am Link to this comment

Peter K. shouts that because of the US government’s own crimes, “AMERICA HAS
NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT ANY OF THIS.”

Oh, but Peter, America is not neutral on this matter of Israel’s crimes. America is
“saying” a lot. We are not only saying it verbally - with our Congress and our Vice
President falling all over themselves to praise Israel and defend its actions as good
and necessary, as happens every time Israel does something outrageously evil -
we are saying it with massive ongoing military and financial aid.

You see, Peter, you seem to be calling for us to do nothing, keep mum, and not
take sides. But to do nothing is to continue the status quo, in which the United
States extravagantly takes Israel’s side even when Israel murders an innocent
American citizen in international waters.

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By Peter Knopfler, June 4, 2010 at 6:34 am Link to this comment

HERE COMES ANOTHER SPONTANEOUS THOUGHT; HUMANITARIANISM! LETS LOOK.  3000,000 Haitians died off the coast of Miami florida. From the other side of this planet first responders ISRAEL AND CHINA, Israel built the first field hospital and What of AMERICA, well they took up all the airport space with Troops-kids 20 -23 year old, practice for Afghanistan, 15000 troops, not doctors or nurses, MILITARY TROOPS. A FEW feet away from those troops dead people in the piles of rubble, when they were asked to help, they said “NO; WE ARE NOT HERE FOR THAT; WE ARE HERE FOR SECURITY!”  Where is the outcry! Cuba-Gitmo prison has a floating Hospital few minutes from Haiti, but Americans were too busy torturing to take the Hospital barge to Haiti and make some use out of the floating hospital, ALL TRUE EASY CHECK I CANT MAKE UP SUCH MISCHEVIOUSNESS`. Humanitarianism gets in the way of money and population control, Buildebergs meeting in Dolce Hotel,NOW top 300 in this world, they have to meet before the g-20 in Toronto end of this month 26-27, and they will decide your future, whether YOU beleive it or like it makes no difference we are all slaves to something, like RUSSIA A SLAVE TO THEIR OWN HISTORY America is enslaved by Television and their self inflicted fantasies. LITTLE DREAMER DREAM ON! Stupid Canadians just now spent 1.1 billion on security for a 16 hour conference, lets do the math, 1.1 billion divided by 16 hours…. WOW! HOW STUPID ALL PAID FOR BY CANADIAN TAX PAYERS LUCKY EAY! Have a MOLSONS!

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By Robert, June 4, 2010 at 6:29 am Link to this comment

By Peter Knopfler, June 4 at 9:52 am #

“Yes everyone!!! 19 year old should been in school instead He attracted his DEATH because of the pre-mature cognitive committment that is created by Islam at the age of 5, madrassa teachings, home education of the KORAN is at 5 years old by 19 He is ready for suicide missions, hundreds of these are performed mostly by children and women, Sacrifice for ALLAh Akbar!! wake up folks, the 19 year old turkish American is in paradise with his virgins, that is reality not your emotional fantasy of being American, America kills daily and has been for a very long time, which is why they spend the most on weapons than anyone else, wake up America is not that hard to see drone killings all last month killed mostly women and children, BABIES so wake up to your own SINS PEOPLE OF THE WORLD.”

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Hey Knopfler...You are getting desparate & your zionist hasbara is up to your ears. Your ways & deceptions are sooo transparent.

Take a look at what your ilk is doing to Christians.

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Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them

A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem’s Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window.

By Amiram Barkat

A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem’s Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.

The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews. Many Jerusalem clergy have been subjected to abuse of this kind. For the most part, they ignore it but sometimes they cannot.

On Sunday, a fracas developed when a yeshiva student spat at the cross being carried by the Armenian Archbishop during a procession near the Holy Sepulchre in the Old City. The archbishop’s 17th-century cross was broken during the brawl and he slapped the yeshiva student.

Both were questioned by police and the yeshiva student will be brought to trial. The Jerusalem District Court has meanwhile banned the student from approaching the Old City for 75 days.

But the Armenians are far from satisfied by the police action and say this sort of thing has been going on for years. Archbishop Nourhan Manougian says he expects the education minister to say something.

When there is an attack against Jews anywhere in the world, the Israeli government is incensed, so why when our religion and pride are hurt, don’t they take harsher measures?” he asks.

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Click on link for the rest:

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/christians-in-jerusalem-want-jews-to-stop-spitting-on-them-1.137099

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By Peter Knopfler, June 4, 2010 at 6:09 am Link to this comment

Now listen up America`s backyard the Mexican border, KILLED 20,000 YES TWENTY THOUSAND PEOPLE 75% women and no ARRESTS. So America, and the rest of you folks look in mirror 20, 000 dead in your backyard, in your face and you complaim about a turkish-american near the Gaza coast, American official killed his wife also shot in parking lot on border, be-headings, torture, mass murders. UNTIL you solve those dead of your own in your backyard, AMERICA HAS NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT ANY OF THIS. Look in the mirror before you accuse others. DO NOT BE SEDUCED BY YOUR OWN DENIAL AND YOUR IGNORANCE BECAUSE YOU ACCUSE AND IGNORE YOUR OWN MURDEROUS ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON DAILY! AMERICA HAS over 660 BASES AROUND THE WORLD!THEY KILL PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY AND NIGHT! SECRET Prisons within the USA, THE HIGHEST PRISON POPULATION PER PERSON; and more secret torture prison outside of USA. ALL THIS INFO AND MORE IS EASY TO FIND EVERYTHING IS IN THE OPEN FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN OPEN MIND DO NOT SHUT YOUR EYES TO YOUR OWN MISCHEVIOUS BEHAVIOUR; LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO LIVE A LIE! AMERICA IS IT`S WORST ENEMY, LIKE NATIONAL SPORT BASEBALL WHERE YOU SACRIFICE YOUR OWN TO WIN, SELF INFLICTED WOUNDS IS THE HISTORY OF AMERICA.

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By Thomas O. Anderson, June 4, 2010 at 5:56 am Link to this comment

Watch this clip of a recent meeting of the Israeli government and see how a Palestinian female member is treated.

THESE are the gangsters Obama and Biden grovel to. THESE are the gangsters they send your tax dollars to. THESE are the gangsters they would have all Americans honor and obey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uZ1SUREOOQ

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By Peter Knopfler, June 4, 2010 at 5:52 am Link to this comment

Yes everyone!!! 19 year old should been in school instead He attracted his DEATH because of the pre-mature cognitive committment that is created by Islam at the age of 5, madrassa teachings, home education of the KORAN is at 5 years old by 19 He is ready for suicide missions, hundreds of these are performed mostly by children and women, Sacrifice for ALLAh Akbar!! wake up folks, the 19 year old turkish American is in paradise with his virgins, that is reality not your emotional fantasy of being American, America kills daily and has been for a very long time, which is why they spend the most on weapons than anyone else, wake up America is not that hard to see drone killings all last month killed mostly women and children, BABIES so wake up to your own SINS PEOPLE OF THE WORLD.

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By Ed Harges, June 4, 2010 at 5:34 am Link to this comment

re:By Mundt, June 4 at 8:06 am:

Quite so: the Liberty massacre was ignored as this will be, too. And don’t forget
the sadistic mangling of Rachel Corrie, which is celebrated in Israel. They defecate
and vomit all over us and make us eat it, and then they demand more money, and
praise, and wars to make them “safe”, and we say Thank-you very much, sir, at
your service, sir, right away, sir.

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By Mundt, June 4, 2010 at 4:06 am Link to this comment

American citizens were among the dead following Israel’s attack on the “USS Liberty”, too. Big deal. Nothing happened then, nothing happens now.

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By PatrickHenry, June 4, 2010 at 3:24 am Link to this comment

Anarcisse,

Insane and motivated, a deadly combination which judgement is unfortunately left behind.

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By Commune115, June 3, 2010 at 11:21 pm Link to this comment

...and of course Obama doesn’t care that a US citizen was killed by a client state’s armed forces.

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By Anarcissie, June 3, 2010 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment

Looks like the final death-spiral to me.

I am impressed, though, with the way pro-Israel apologists have hit the media and the Net.  Their propaganda may be insane, but you can’t fault their energy and dedication.

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By Robert, June 3, 2010 at 7:47 pm Link to this comment

Hey Knopfler...One more for the road…since your zionist’s “hasbara” is NOT sticking anywhere!


Take a look at this 9/11 news report by Brit Hume


Israeli Spies Caught Celebrating 9-11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS89vNH-eeY&feature=related

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By MarthaA, June 3, 2010 at 7:43 pm Link to this comment

Peter Knopfler, June 3 at 9:22 pm,

It would be nice if one could hear what was being said, but one can’t hear a word of what is being said.  It appears that these passengers are being threatened to the point that they have sought out whatever they could find to use as protection, because it would be foolishness to believe they set out to defend themselves against guns with sling shots, sticks and small pieces of metal.  One must remember, according to what was on the news, the cargo ships were in international water, therefore, the incident was similar to a pirate attack, which is extremely sad.

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By MarthaA, June 3, 2010 at 7:09 pm Link to this comment

Peter Knopfler, June 3 at 9:18 pm,

You weren’t there, so where did you get your information?

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By Robert, June 3, 2010 at 7:02 pm Link to this comment

By Peter Knopfler, June 3 at 9:18 pm #

“You would be having parties, dancing in the streets like HAMAS TURKEY IRAN when 911 struck.. short memory folks!KILL AMERICANS REMEMBER WAKE UP!”

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Hey Knopfler,


Take a look at who was dancing on 9/11

Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

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By Ed Harges, June 3, 2010 at 5:56 pm Link to this comment

If Obama takes Israel’s side against this innocent American citizen, he is
committing treason.

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By Peter Knopfler, June 3, 2010 at 5:22 pm Link to this comment

I FORGOT HERE IS A VIDEO THAT WILL GET YOU BY THE HEUVOS!  http://www.youtube.com/user/idfnadesk have fun maybe youtube hasn`t taken it down

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By Peter Knopfler, June 3, 2010 at 5:18 pm Link to this comment

YES THE 19 YEAR OLD WAS THE IDIOT THAT TOOK A FIREARM FROM THE IDF SOLDIER AND EMPTIED THE ENTIRE MAGAZINE ON OTHER ISRAEL SOLDIERS NOW HE IS A DEAD IDIOT: WASTE OF A LIFE WHAT WAS HE DOING THERE ANYWAYS. Take a Gun from a soldier and expect to be shot same with police men you take cops gun and the others well expect fifty shots to head and body. SORRY FOLKS CAN^T GET UPSET if it was a 19 year old IDF soldier You would be having parties, dancing in the streets like HAMAS TURKEY IRAN when 911 struck.. short memory folks!KILL AMERICANS REMEMBER WAKE UP!

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By Ross, June 3, 2010 at 4:12 pm Link to this comment
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It is very sad when an american soul becomes cheap compared to an israeli one. Our politicians are more israeli than american!! what a shame!! Furkan is another name added to the list of Young brave americans, like Rachel, who is not appreciated by their country and not defended by their politicians….... shameful!

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By PatrickHenry, June 3, 2010 at 4:05 pm Link to this comment

Another Act of War against U.S. citizen by Israel.

Boycott, Divest and Sanction.

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