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An Agnostic for President — and a Woman at That

Posted on Dec 12, 2005

How refreshing that there is one democratic nation — Chile — where a leading candidate has the courage to suggest that the impact of the clergy has not always added to enlightenment, particularly as to the place of women in society. Jefferson lives.  (See the BBC and Washington Post reports.)  So does the informed debate, taking place in the Featured Dig section of this site, challenging the mass-media taboo on the “athiest” word.  For the traditionally faithful among our readers, not to worry, the Rev. Madison Schockley’s excellent evocation of the true Jesus will appear in time for Christmas.

—Posted by Robert Scheer.

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By diamond, August 5, 2011 at 2:51 pm Link to this comment

Jefferson lives? Jefferson owned 200 slaves and only ever freed 7 of them on his death bed and they were the children he had with Sally Hemmings, yes, a slave he took to his bed when she was thirteen years old. Only Samuel Johnson ever got it right when he wrote in a pamphlet called ‘Taxation is No Tyranny’, “Why is it that the loudest yelps about liberty come from the drivers of slaves?” Even the Declaration of Independence is an enigma: ‘All men are created equal’ but what about those who were slaves? Clearly they were not equal and they are not mentioned. Women weren’t included either. America’s problem with the truth started right there. ‘Don’t do as I do, do as I say’ being America’s message to the rest of the world ever since the Declaration of Independence. Always the high flown rhetoric and the grubby reality, and never the twain shall meet. Is it any wonder that Michelle Bachmann, tax lawyer and right wing extremist, calls the Tea Party “patriots” when they’re nothing of the kind? It’s the usual lying hypocrisy.

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By Redgauntlet, December 19, 2005 at 4:15 pm Link to this comment
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I remember former Canadian Prime Minister, Kim Campbell on Bill Mahr talking about how, if she spoke of God the way Bush has, she could never have won in Canada.

She didn’t

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By John M Sandoval, December 17, 2005 at 7:59 pm Link to this comment
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In the book of Revelations, several pages from the end of the Holy Bible, Jesus says; I am the seed of David, I am the bright, the morning star.
The Morning Star appears on the horizon a few minutes before sunrise, in summer and fall. It can be seen with the naked eye at 5:30 or 6:00 AM
it is not a Star - it is the planet “Venus.”
The most recent astronomy studies discovered that, at the end of the year and until summer - the planet Venus appears on the west horizon as the Sun is setting - minutes before dark - and becomes “the evening Star.”
It was once thought to be two different stars.
In Jesus’s time, people believed that spirits of Kings and Pharaohs became stars when they died.
Scientific Astronomy studies prove, that “Jesus” is not “the Morning Star.”
John M Sandoval

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By John M Sandoval, December 16, 2005 at 5:58 pm Link to this comment
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In Revelations - a few pages from the end of the Holy bible; Jesus says; I am the seed of David, I am the bright, the morning star.
The morning star can be seen with the naked eye, on the horizon, a few minutes before sun rise - summer and fall. It is not Jesus (in spirit or anything else) and it is not a star - it is the planet “Venus.”
At the end of the year, the morning star becomes “the evening star - showing itself above the horizon at the setting sun. And it is the planet “Venus.”
This bare faced lie - that it is Jesus - is known to Atheists as “catch 22.” The Holy Bible does have its own rationalization - its an admitted lie, as observed in this catch 22.
John M Sandoval

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By Stewart Farley, December 15, 2005 at 8:51 pm Link to this comment
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As a life-long educator, when I read about the percentage of people in this country who hold to these antiquated beliefs, I have to admit that the education system in this country is largely to fault. Everybody went through it and look what came out the other end! How can a majority of US citizens believe in Creationism? With what is known of astronomy and astrophysics, how can they believe in Heaven? I remember asking my mother where heaven was when I was about 8. She said, if you look up near the north star, you’ll see a space where there are no stars. That’s where heaven is. I believed that until I went to college and swung a telescope to that region of the sky and saw thousands of stars! My question was, “what ELSE did they lie about”? Now I know… almost everything!

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By john m sandoval, December 15, 2005 at 12:04 pm Link to this comment
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The educated, intelligent people of the world, can not continue to believe in and worship in religions based on drinking blood, eating flesh, and sacrificing of live animals and human beings.
But “of course” they never have.
Atheists fare better when they personally confirm their doubts and disbeliefs and just keep quiet about it! So many people, refuse to admit their doubts and disbeliefs. Atheist World leaders pretend to be Christians, when “in fact” they are dyed in the wool atheists - their intelligence will not allow belief in all the false religious interpretations, about a “YHWH-GOD-JEHOVA that simply does not exist. And we have ample positive proof that he does not exist ! False religious interpretations are an insult to our intelligence. We know what we know !
To personally confirm disbelief, all one has to do is accept the appropiated facts.
It is well known, that religious people, (not only fanatics)are the ones who persecute non believers and have no qualms about single or mass murder, while they are intending to rid the world of non believers.
reference: The Treasures of Zion.
Jewish “religious affairs” are nothing more than “Jewish political affairs.” And they say;
PS: What fools, these mortals be !
John M Sandoval - free lance writer

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By bruce elniski, December 15, 2005 at 9:22 am Link to this comment
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The world needs leaders who can passionately and courageously stand up for human rights, equality, democracy, freedom, the emancipation of women, children and slaves of all kinds, honesty, decency and the universal rights and freedoms of all.
Religion has been very much an impediment to social progress for over 2000 years.  Being religious is a liability, not a virtue.  Keep the state and church separate!


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By Virginia Rogalsky, December 14, 2005 at 2:00 pm Link to this comment
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Remember when John Kennedy said that he wasn’t precluded from running for president the day he was born into a Catholic family?  I have a little note I have kept for many years saying the same thing about being born a female.  Maybe there is hope for atheist females.

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By Noah, December 14, 2005 at 12:10 pm Link to this comment
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Aren’t we the only western democracy in which talking with God is actually a resume booster for the top office?  I remember former Canadian Prime Minister, Kim Campbell on Bill Mahr talking about how, if she spoke of God the way Bush has, she could never have won in Canada.

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By effjay, December 12, 2005 at 6:48 pm Link to this comment
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Outstanding. A political candidate who doesn’t equivocate or apologize for holding unpopular beliefs. And one who actually seems to realize that running for office isn’t one’s raison d’etre?

Boston has a sports broadcaster, Bob Lobel, whose familiar jibe whenever a former Red Sox player has an exceptional day with his new team seems apropos here: Why can’t WE get guys like that?

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