Though I’m not opposed to the procedure personally I find the approach of banning any public funding while maintaining existing legality a more than fair compromise. It may seem crass but despite the desperate need some patients feel when seeking this procedure it is still in the vast majority of cases an electable procedure to treat a medical condition brought on by personal behavioral choices. Yes, that is a vast simplification and yes there will always be exceptions but as a first step can’t we agree that those majority of situations that aren’t an exception, and that don’t have mitigating circumstances are well within the boundaries of undeserving of public funding?

Abortions should be available, and it’s perfectly fine if the state refuses to fund it. However, I must stress that it should be available. When a woman gets pregnant after a consensual sex with another man, but decides not to keep the baby (e.g. due to financial reasons, age, etc.), it is not up to the state to ‘remove her problem’, so to say.. However, the state should extend a helping to women are pregnant by force (e.g. rape). And yes, the state should fund such cases.

Oh by the way:

This is one of eleven congressmen that are holding approximately 27 million to 30 million americans hostage and continued existence without health insurance. What is the greater injustice?

Does anyone notice that no matter how loudly the two parties argue about abortion, the policy stays pretty much the same no matter who wins an election this way or that?

This is one of the fake issues that they use to try to show that there’s any difference at all between these two corporate parties.  Its all hot air.  If you look closely, nothing ever really changes except the fine print of a couple of policies on the fringe of the issue.

My read on this is that political donations from the groups on each side of the abortion debate must be down, so Congress decided it was time to go on the TV and raise the level of the ‘abortion debate’ in order to get those checks and credit cards flowing into their campaign accounts again.

Anytime they don’t want you thinking about how badly screwed you are going to be under this bill in order to protect and generate corporate profits, they start one of these fake arguments about abortion.

Next on the public agenda, a huge debate over whether the notices telling you that you are now required to become a customer of these awful health insurance companies need to be printed in English-only.

I agree again with Peetawonkus. This guy Stupak is a “moran”. I bet he has some skeletons in his “holier than thou” closet. A woman wanting and getting access to abortion MUST be protected…not make a sacrifice of her so this dumbass can feel like he “did something” for life on earth. These characters are so twisted; just let him get pregnant and see what he wants to do…“My baby , My baby!” yeah right. Uneducated voters voting into powerful positions over them people who have morality axes to grind. They should be looking at the plundering of the masses by the corporations and the schemers in the big offices to find their immorality campaigns to be against…do they do that? NO! They LOVE mammon and want to kiss some shiny leather boots on their way to their heaven.

rollzone,
Another incoherent idiot for…what again?

hello. wow. men need to be moral, women need to be moral regarding sexual intercourse. incredible logic, and the sanitized by government laugh was even longer. if i were the child being aborted, i would want the option to murder my mother instead. my question remains about the back door deals. pharmaceuticals dominate lobbyists, and those abortion and sex pills are good business. it is always that nagging morality that needs to be aborted. if abortion crosses in the ground make you queasy, take a pill. pretend the lobbyists promise $20 million to each re-erection campaign if the “Representatives” pass this Senate health sewage bill. then the pharmaceuticals reap billions in profits. are these back door deals getting anything even close to parity with worth? my opinion is these negotiations need to be completely transparent, and starting over could get a better deal.

It would be refreshing to hear people talk about pro-choice instead of “abortion”, or to even have a discussion without the use of words like “devil” and “evil”. Religion is the worst thing to happen to politics. It’s simply a cancer on the intellect.

The right wing is always yapping about the evils of “abortion” but they cut funding for sex education every chance they get because it offends their religious sensitivities. But then they have no problem with Miss America contests full of gay hating Aryan ice bitches who strut around in mini-bikinis while quoting Leviticus. So they demonize abortion while sexualizing every aspect of the culture they can get their hypocritical little hands on. Then blame women for having sex, or having an abortion, or having the children the good Christian men walk away from to leave women and children in poverty.

There’s no “Devil” in this. There’s just a$*holes who continue to see women as only whores or mothers and they use religion as a political tool to keep women from gaining power.

Hell, yes, we should fund abortions, and on demand, too. And every man who says we shouldn’t damn well better be in a monogamous married relationship where children are expected, or sending that child support check on time, or getting a vasectomy.

I wanted to hit the “report this” button on every one of these posts. But there wasn’t a “report this post as well reasoned, astoundingly intelligent” button. WOW people. Really. Wow! Amazingly well worded to you all.

John: What we need for all women is better educating them in matters of their reproductive health and not to allow other peoples views dictate for all. If you do not believe in abortion, don’t have one. As a woman I have a better knowledge of my pregnancies than a total stranger who has the power to decide my life choices. Abortion should not be used as a method of birth control in my opinion, but there are sometimes valid medical reasons for this procedure and by allowing non-medical, non experts decide a strangers medical prognoses is wrong, period. Government and most if not all insurance companies make it impossible for a woman to obtain an abortion. The fact is, women have to pay on the upwards of $500/mth just for maternity coverage in addition to the rest of their medical coverage and because only women get pregnant, many of these companies are denying coverage for pregnancy as a pre-existing condition, when in fact it is usually the male that is the cause of this pre-existing condition.

Berk Stupak(stupid) does not understand that pregnant women are not automatically given a forced abortion upon discovering they are pregnant, the way he carries on on this non-issue one would think that is the case. Even if the life of the future mother is endangered, it is getting more difficult to obtain the medical services that best suit the situation. If politicians and some of the religious fringe want to practice medicine on the rest of the population, they all need to go to medical college so they might better understand what they are forcing on the rest of the population. What about the teenager last year who did not want any further treatment for his cancer? There were those who tried to force unwanted medical procedures upon this person, whom they did not know him on a personal level and did not know what he had already suffered. Some choices need to be left to the person, their families and doctors and anyone else they want, who knows them and who is living and experiencing these facts of lives with them. Interfering do-goodies need to mind their own business, they would find they would be quite busy attending to their own lives while leaving others alone to live theirs.

Also this week on the news: Punishing women who have miscarriages. I knew this would come up one day, it has taken almost 40 years, but it is now on the doorstep. Enough already, if these people who come up with these invading laws against a woman’s right to choose, first they had better stop all the wars all over the world. Make them practice what they are forcing onto the rest of the world. If life is so precious, then they would make certain that all babies born in this world are wanted first of all, they would see to it that all babies would have adequate food, clothing, shelter, medical needs taken care of, education, employment, a loving environment in which to grow up in and not the one too many of these babies are now living in. once they achieve this, then maybe they could suggest that the abortion issue be discussed, until then, they need to sit down and shut up. No one goes through that procedure without thinking it through. It is usually used as a last resort. Now get on with a valid health care bill and leave the non existent already problem parts that are already taken care of alone and finished this bill. Why Bert would want to force a baby into this world, yet deny it the basic medical coverage it will need once it is here is a question I want to hear an answer for.

“… there’s a principle and a belief that the American people agree with which says no public funding for abortion.”

I hate when Republicans proclaim the “American people” believe this, want that, etc.. Give me a break, as if every single American has the same, uniform belief system. These Republican politicians are just too chicken sh*t to say, “Me and my narrow-minded special interests believe… .”