so left I am right - You miss the irony in my comment. Beck is the ultimate jerk off. But America loves a jerk off and after his “act” is over and he returns to the fold of his Murdoch/Mormon Church masters he will be praised for having propagandized the stupid while at the same time having made mountains of money selling junk (it just so happens to be green stuff) to the Mormon faithful. More money in the coffers of the cult.

In today’s world it’s important to recognize our enemies. In Beck’s case he is only the manifestation of the enemy which is simply: the Stupidity of the American people.

Mormons or morons, having a two year supply of MRE’s is not the point of the
“Sustainability” crowd, which I firmly place myself in. Having heirloom seeds,
you know the ones that actually generate a viable seed of the same strain for
next year, and knowing how to process those seeds is a million times more
important than a basement full of bottled water and MRE’s.

Beck and his whacked out corporately driven politics aside, what the fuck is
wrong with striving for a sustainable lifestyle - I ask the intelligent and liberal
leaning editors of TD? Growing our own food, producing the power you need.
Learning how or can and root cellar food for over winter storage. Learning
animal husbandry, how to hunt, butcher and smoke meat for low energy
storage.

All these things are very “green,” have a low to no carbon footprint and yes, can
be see as “end-of-the-world” paranoia. But have you noticed? The world we
used to live in is gone. A new world is looming and it will only get worse in a
low energy environment.

Come on TD, you guys do a great job at exposing and informing a lot of what
lies in between the headlines. But you always, always, without fail miss
anything to do with resource depletion and it’s consequences. We already know
how bad our governments and many others are. If there is an energy shock in
the next 12 months do you really think that corporate Obama will actually help
you by installing solar panels on your neighborhood Starbucks so you can
continue to sip on your fru-fru coffee while surfing the internet complaining
about conservatives and their websites?

Oh, and I loved Tom’s comment. He’s right. No “God-fearing Republican” would
have solar panels anyway. According to them oil is a renewable resource - but
wait, what’s Beck?

Gosh, ALL of you commentators miss the obvious about Glenn Beck’s advertisements. After having grown up in Utah it’s plain as day what this stuff is all about:

Practising Mormons are encouraged to keep a 2 year supply of food and water on-hand in their homes. It’s actually one of the only things Mormons do that doesn’t offend me personally and, oddly enough, is a good thing for everyone to do.

Of course, the Mormons attach an “end-of-the-world” paranoia to this idea but I’ve got to hand it to Beck, it’s making him an incredibly rich man along with helping his Mormon buddies.

By so left i am right, March 26 at 8:57 am

This points out to me as just another case of how crazy it is to
allow the human population to just grow and grow and grow
unfettered as if no matter how many people there are, there
will always be enough to feed and care for all, though it may
take some bit of doing without to do so.

And we all asked for it when we allowed corporations to
become the power centers of all the basic needs of a person
because, as is known, corporations are the ‘clubs’ of those
most greediest of humans.

I’m not a Glenn Beck fan.  I’ve seen him twice and
believe me that was twice too much.  I am baffled
by his reasoning processes.  He can line generators
up for a mile and grow enough food to feed thousands
but doesn’t he realize when things get as back as he
professes that people in need will take his generators and food?  He is a bag of wind trying to
scare people into voting for Republicans.  That’s
the deceptive nature of the beast and believe me
he is a deceptive beast.

I guess the Democrat noise machine got tired of trying to scare everyone with Sarah Palin stories, so they decided to switch over to Glen Beck.

Don’t get me wrong.  I don’t think I like the guy.  Although since I’ve used the parental blocking features on my TV to block CNN, Faux and all the other propaganda stations from my home, I can’t really say I’ve seen or heard him much.

But the key is to realize that the Democrats practice the ‘politics of fear’ just like the Republicans.  You are supposed to be very afraid of Glenn Beck, and thus line up like dutiful sheep to vote for more corporate rule by voting Democrat in the next election.

Ever notice how the whole Democrat noise machine turns on a dime, and that how one week the web can be littered with Sarah Palin stories and then on another week its all Glenn Beck stories?  Its like someone is sending out memos to all these people telling everyone who the boogie-man of the week is this week.

Another website where you can get useful survival information on is http://
groups.yahoo.com/group/riverats/  You do not need expensive generators or
part time solar or wind power if you live near a river. On a river you can grow
crops on rafts, generate power from the current and live without buying
property. Wealth is food, water and energy, you can get all three on a river.

By Night-Gaunt, March 26 at 12:14 am #

Food insurance is a good idea because our food train is too dependent on
cheap oil and highly attenuated across the globe. Anything that can stop it can
happen at any time. If it isn’t stopped it can become so expensive that very
few would be able to purchase very much. Same with energy.

We all love to hake Beck, Limbaugh and the like. They instill hate, violence and
worse. Of course that is “free speech” damn…

However, they may not be too far off the mark on these issues.

You can bail out Wall Street, banks, car companies, etc. You can put the
majority of all tax revenue, real and borrowed, into the military industrial
complex. But you can not bail out BTU’s of energy.

This world is at a tipping point on more than just political posturing, climate
change and the over reach of colonialism. 

We are all going to have to learn to do with less and that means, yes, growing
your own food, producing your own power for those few things you just can’t
do by hand, and living with less. 

I’m not a “doomer” I’m a realist. If you look at the days after Katerina hit New
Orleans they had nothing. They were on their own. Imagine an energy shock. A
loss of oil for geo-political reasons or what the “Peak Oil” crowd have been
screaming about for years, less oil available on the world market period.

“Peak Oil” doesn’t mean we have used up half the oil on the planet. We are not
running out. Peak Oil is all about flow rates. That they will never again be as
high as they were and in fact will be declining perhaps faster than expected.
But they will decline. A growing economy can’t grow without cheap oil. Any
commodity in limited supply gets more expensive, as we saw in 2008. If you
still think the global economic melt down of the last few years was all about a
housing bubble popping and WallStreet executives making off with billions you
need to dig a little deeper.

Please see a great primmer by Jeff Rubin, the former Chief Economist of CIBC
World Markets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYuLjGQQ-jg

Alternative Energy will help but oil is more than transportation feed stock. It
permeates every aspect of “modern society.” Another article on TruithDig,
“CHINA IS BEATING THE PANTS OFF THE U.S. IN CLEAN ENERGY,” is about
China’s insatiable appetite for alternative energy and how they are winning that
race. Perhaps they understand the looming problems of a world with less oil
and are working frantically to prepare. Perhaps they just want to “be green…”
Perhaps our corporate/military/government does too and is just not telling us.

Look at Iraq. We are sitting on that oil. The last easy oil on the planet.
Yesterday Democracy Now reported about a new US/Mexico base in Mexico
City to help fight the “War on Drugs.” I propose an alternative hypothesis. 

How convenient that this location, Mexico City, is right next to Mexico’s oil rich
region. And even more notable right next to the oil fields that still have (limited
- but longer life expectancy) stable oil flow.  How interesting that violence is on
the upswing now that Mexico’s main export is declining and the money flow is
slowing. My guess is that we are setting up a base there to protect our access
to that oil. Just like Iraq. Just like anywhere there are resources that keep “The
American Way of Life” rolling along.

You can call it a war on drugs, and that is a side effect of a crashing economy,
the need to make money somehow. Violence will only get worse there as they
cannibalize their own oil consumption so that the US can “keep on trucking.”

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/cpuplava/2006/images/0222.d.jpg

The list goes on but back to the point. As the flight attendant says when they
are reviewing life saving procedures, in the event of an accident, “Put your own
oxygen mask on first. Then help others.” We all need to take a good hard look
at the realities surrounding us and learn how to put that oxygen mask on even
if only for ourselves. 

Beck, you see, get’s Peak Oil if nothing else. He has interviewed those who are
better informed on the subject than I.

I just bought a year’s supply of food and one of those generators.  When the dollar
collapses as the world reserve currency and inflation goes through the roof, let
me know how you like the government GMO laden handouts.

Yeah, Beck is a total ‘tard, and I understand the urge to snark his website, but
make no mistake: this country is careening towards fascism with the full
cooperative assistance of the Obamanible Snowjob.

Many people are saying that the entire coutry has"peeked” and we civilization is on its way out, etc.
  The problem with fear is that it prevents people from thinking straight and leads to panic.  People react based on fear and tend to follow any leader who sounds like h/she may have a good idea to follow which promises escape to safety.

The talk of “food independence” and gardens, generators, local control and the rest of the survival tactics being talked about can be a good venture in community organizing,energy-saving, etc., taking care of yourself and others.  But it has a dangerous side which thrives on inspiring fear and loss of confidence in the social responsibility which is needed to repair the present system where it is fully possible to do so by public action.  Like the old fallout shelters, it tends to run into me-versus-you survivalism which works against shared knowledge, cooperation and courageous social and political innovation.

Just another way of promoting gb who offers so much crap and
arcane messages that in the whole rotten cesspool flow gb will
insert a truly damaging fictitious concoction about somebody or
some thing or especially some ideology that will be taken in by
the dumbstream of gb america as legitimate fact and truth when
IN FACT IT IS JUST ANOTHER FACADE of terror and fear used to
put the wrong thoughts in the dumbstream’s mind.

gb is dangerous to this country and his ‘shock jock’ approach to
deceiving americans isn’t even close to funny but even criminally
subversive enough to being inciting people to riot and
disobedience which last I heard and I believe Amy Goodman can
testify to this, as being against the law, so where are the police?

And where are the FCC and other people responsible for handling the gbs of this country’s subverted MSM?

Wait a minute, you said ‘rupert who’ was in charge of that?

Food insurance is a good idea because our food train is too dependent on cheap oil and highly attenuated across the globe. Anything that can stop it can happen at any time. If it isn’t stopped it can become so expensive that very few would be able to purchase very much. Same with energy. Growing your own food is a good idea too along with local farmers and coops between them & you. Too many things can interrupt it and Solar is a good backup. Water too should be saved. But one doesn’t have to fill Glenn Beck‘s piggy bank to do it.

http://www.cluborlov.com will fill you in on the dangers we face right now and how to cope with it.