There are no Libertarians in Congress.

If there were Libertarians in Congress, they would have their own section. Don’t you see that Libertarians are for the indivdual to own their own pocketbook as well as their body and to keep the government and other individuals from interfering with either.

Thinking that the political spectrum is only Left or Right is very limiting in ones thinking. There are many ways to group political thought and Left and Right are made up, limited, constructs to send a false sense of choice to the masses.

Every wonder why the “middle” is so large? Every wonder why “independants” are the majority voting block? It’s because Left v. Right is made up and held together with duct tape and glue.

Americans better start believing in Liberty/Freedom again or we are going to lose everything. Our entire system is built upon that theme; and agreeably the greedy have underminded that system, but not just the bankers. It’s everyone who uses the government to force a way of life upon others, that includes, corporate subsidies, farm substies, public employee unions, the Federal reserve system, non-user taxes, bailouts, and there are a million things.

The bottom line is if we as Americans don’t stop trying to cram our own ways of living down other throats, we will cease to govern effectivly. America was a free country and needs to be again. We must learn to take care of ourselves and minimilize government interference. Just as a parent must let their kids grow and not take care of them from childhood to grave. If the parent doesn’t then the child never develops into a full functioning adult. Which is alot of what we have now. All over the country is a bunch of greedy and snobby spoiled brats.

There are no Libertarians in Congress.

Does a Libertarian sit in Congress with the Republicans or the Democrats?  Answer that.  When they walk into either House of Congress, do the Libertarians go sit on the Right side of the room or do they go sit on the Left side of the room, because there are NO MIDDLE PERCHES.

“Greedy banksters can not own the populace.  The populace needs to rise up en masse and take back our country from the greedy banksters, then change will come.  If enough of the populace, the Left, get to talking and walking, the politicians will have no choice but to listen and obey as good representatives of the populace should.”  - 

This could have come out of a tea partier’s mouth!!!

“Libertarian is also the Right.”- You are dead wrong about this and it shows your ignorance about political philosophies. Allow me to educate you.

Libertarian is neither Right nor Left and both Right and Left. Libertarians support maximum liberty in both personal and economic matters. So if a political group that is against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, is pro-medical marijuana and pro-gay rights is “right” then I have my directions mixed up.

Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties. They are not on the fake Left v. Right scale, which is a mind trap that creates a false sense of only two choices.

I am definitely not the Right.  I go Left.  The Left is the MAJORITY populace.  Greedy banksters can not own the populace.  The populace needs to rise up en masse and take back our country from the greedy banksters, then change will come.  If enough of the populace, the Left, get to talking and walking, the politicians will have no choice but to listen and obey as good representatives of the populace should. 

Libertarian is also the Right.

Martha you are absolutly correct! (not right). That’s why I am not on the right. Greedy Bankersters own the Left and the Right, the Democrats and Republicans.

That’s why I vote Libertarian.

That’s the problem, conservatism doesn’t want to talk about the greedy capitalists taking advantage of massive corporate welfare.

MarthaA

I wasn’t talking about the bankers, but when I see a good greedy banker story come up I’ll weigh in on them too!

thinkingman101, March 7 at 2:59 pm,

Socialism is capitalist bankers living off the public tit?

Socialism hasn’t failed the capitalist bankers, has it?

Socialism came through in a hurry and saved the corrupt bankers capital, didn’t it? 

The problem is that capitalist bankers only want socialism for themselves.  Any social help for the populace, like single payer public health care for all can not be allowed because public health care for all may cut down on the multi-million dollar bonuses capitalists want to give to the toadies who do their bidding.

Unions are socialist, but not forced socialism, like forced corporate socialism’s welfare that is imposed on the populace by the government.  People choose to join unions for benefit, whereas forced corporate welfare through corporate socialism is a drag on the populace—— BIG difference.

Socialism fails again. What a bunch of whinny, little thugs they all are. If they are really worried about bank rolling education, then they need to go out and get real jobs, start a business, do something that adds to the economy and stop living off the public tit.

These Unions are horrible, they do everything they can to force the tax payer to pay through the nose so they can live on the public dime and when the public can’t afford to pay anymore, they treat the tax payer like a slave. They are all acting like spoiled brats because their parent isn’t giving them any more free money.

This is so sad that America has become a Nation of whinny little socialist who only know how to live off the state and has forgotten how to take care of itself. Union welfare is just as bad as Corporate welfare. So they can chant all they want about foreign wars, but the education system is bigger drain on resources of the people of California.

Education is tool, not an end to itself. America and California put a ton of money into education and Americans are still dumber than ever. We are behind in all areas of education and the schools are diploma factories. Education doesn’t come from the state, it comes from the desire to learn, the desire to know, the Love of knowledge. Unfortunately what we have is K-12 system that is nothing more than a big day care.

America is doomed to fail if this is how our “educated” are going to continue to act. Our educated are not teaching students proper lessons of self determination, self reliance, and hard work. Instead we have a touchy feely school system that is out of touch with reality and our problems will only get worse until the lazy state worker wakes up and realizes they are the problem and no one else.

My experience in teaching John Ellis’s “laboring class” has been far from discouraging.  I would argue that most reasons for “failure to learn” arise in the early years when kids of undereducated parents grow up with prejudices against “school” and the values of learning.

Asian kids are notably different, as generalizations go.  The average Asian parent has great respect for schools and learning, and the parents themselves tend to have better public education in their backgrounds. 

Inner city chaos—class and race discrimination and fear, violence and revenge definitely work against good education—in fact may make it impossible.

Further, nobody can “jam anything into anybody’s mind.”  Most misinformation is breathed in unconsciously from the childhood culture including prejudice, hopelessness and rage.  Read Jonathan Kozol.

Any halfway liberal personwho has worked in the public school system has seen for decades what “private enterprise” was trying to do to public education.  In a word, to destroy it. 

People who fall for this “privatization” scheme are invariably more interested in separating people than in bringing them together. They are more interested in “elitism” than in “popularism.”  Read the message behind the mottos:  “No child left behind” meaning the impossible “Every child ahead of every other child” nonsense.  “The Race to the Top.” Again, no interest in the huge “bottom” left behind.  Class separation - segregation.  “Upward bound!”  Again the same message. 

And along with all the hoopla, encouragement of class resentments by permitting vast differences in money for schools in poor districts versus schools in rich districts.  And the worst:  Punishing teachers who cannot “produce” a certain number of students with a certain number on “standardized” tests.  “Produce” as in “production line.”  Nothing about really important ways to improve
“distribution”—the other side of “production.”  It’s all a huge gaffe, and most people don’t “get” it at all. (I’ll shut up now, though I could go on and on.)

As if Arnold’s government is going to care. Seriously.

Welcome to America, Version 3.0: our newest 3rd world country…

Really good chant, ““Money for jobs and education, not for war and incarceration”.

Time to tax the rich for social justice and economic equity.

If you read the comments attached to the original article, you will find that they are mainly anti-union, anti-public education.  Why is that?
  Proves the point I try to make over and over:  The right wing writes letters to editors, makes phone calls to officials, writes comments online, forms protest groups far more quickly and persistently than liberals.  Liberals by their very nature wait longer to get together because they share a broad tolerance for differences and make more nuanced judgments, generally speaking.  Right wingers use protest devices easily and quickly, usually following some leader’s advice without criticism. Thus it seems the right wing is making more noise—and they are.
  Question:  Will liberals change and be able to meet this challenge?  If so, when and how?  I often try to encourage letters, phone calls etc. from liberals, but am generally regarded as hopelessly naive. In spite of evidence to the contrary, I’m told it “doesn’t work.”  Suggestions for locally organized protests are regarded, apparently, as “too much trouble” and therefore the main message that gets through from the liberal side is a loud moaning and groaning about what is wrong.  Period.