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Afghan Civilian Deaths Confirmed

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Posted on May 9, 2009

The U.S. military has confirmed that an undetermined number of civilians were killed in airstrikes during a joint Afghan-U.S. operation against the Taliban on Monday. Neither U.S. nor Afghan forces have taken responsibility for any deaths, now estimated at 147. Human Rights Watch has called the attack “the largest and most tragic loss of life to U.S. bombs so far in Afghanistan.”

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The preliminary report said Taliban fighters herded Afghan villagers into houses to use as human shields while they fired on coalition forces in two villages in Farah. The report said that U.S. forces had responded to a call for help from Afghan forces and that militants attacked the troops from several locations.

Troops called for airstrikes on the militant positions, and a U.S. spokeswoman said Saturday that fighter aircraft made 13 passes over the two villages, using a combination of flares, strafing runs and bombs.

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By mmadden, May 13, 2009 at 2:33 am Link to this comment

During World War II the allies intentionally declared war on the Axis civilians. The allies burned out entire cities that had no factories to produce war making materiel. Literally millions were killed and now we accidentally kill some civilans and the world is up in arms about the atrocities that the current administration is making.

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By christian, May 11, 2009 at 10:27 am Link to this comment
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Tragedy, error ? Crime, deliberate !

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By Outraged, May 10, 2009 at 11:58 pm Link to this comment

There is an update to this story.  From AP, same journalists..

Published on Sunday, May 10, 2009 by the Associated Press
White Phosphorus? Concern Over Burns on Afghans Caught in Battle

Afghan rights group probes civilians’ burns, US military denies using white phosphorus

by Jason Straziuso and Rahim Faiez

KABUL—Afghanistan’s leading human rights organization said Sunday it was investigating the possibility that white phosphorus was used in a U.S.-Taliban battle that killed scores of Afghans. The U.S. military rejected speculation it had used the weapon but left open the possibility Taliban militants did.

White phosphorus can be employed legitimately in battle, but rights groups say its use over populated areas can indiscriminately burn civilians and constitutes a war crime.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/05/10-6

Every time I feel that I can’t look at another war atrocity, I view double the images.  This way, the reality is kept fresh in my mind.  A picture really is worth a thousand words, isn’t it?

This young girl is younger than Pres. Obama’s youngest.  I wonder how it would change Pres. Obama’s supposed “necessary war” stance, if he daily viewed the images of these young victims.  I don’t think he doesn’t care, I sense he forgets and is purposefully side-tracked with all the “technicalities” of war….. and really, there are so many…. how long before enough is enough Pres. Obama?

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By tropicgirl, May 10, 2009 at 10:28 am Link to this comment
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A good friend of mine, whose son is a shooter in Afghanistan told me of a conversation he had with his son a few weeks ago. The son explained what they were doing in Afghanistan. He said, they surround a house, which they can actually see through to the people inside, with some new technology, and tell everyone to come out. If there is anyone in the house hiding, not coming out, they drop a huge bomb on the house.  He said the killings happen frequently and they do this day after day.

Here is the most accurate perspective of why we are in Afghanistan. It makes even more sense due to this government’s irrational support of banks and war. This story is all over the web in different forms and sources. This is just one by a libertarian candidate for Congress. Its all about the drugs:

“The illegal drug trade brings in about 600 or 700 billion dollars in cash every year—maybe more, since the IMF’s (International Monetary Fund) estimate for money laundering in 2001 was 1.5 trillion dollars. All of that cash has to get laundered somewhere. But there’s too much of it to launder anywhere but through huge corporations. So the CIA, which is the gangster army of the Wall Street financiers, controls the drug trade and launders the money through America’s largest banks and corporations. 

Insiders leverage the drug money to make even more profits than the above figures would suggest. How? They buy, say, General Dynamics stock, and then launder billions in drug money through General Dynamics. The dirty money shows up as earnings. Wow! General Dynamics is having a great year! Its stock prices soar. Then the insiders sell their stocks, invest in Bank of America, start laundering money through Bank of America. And so the shell game continues year after year, generating trillions of dollars in profits for the corrupt scoundrels of the Wall Street CIA mafia…”

So, actually the world is safer with the Taliban in control. They are the only ones who ever sought to shut down the poppyfields. We deserve to lose this war in shame. We will certainly lose a lot of soldiers in death, mental consequences and suicides. Maybe that’s why the banks really crashed? Just wondering what happened to the drug money when the Taliban took over most recently? The timing fits.

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By bluzmstr2, May 10, 2009 at 10:01 am Link to this comment
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And the american public continues financing war efforts, coordinated strikes and of that kind of terrorist actions.  Official salesmen of the war campaign have said on numerous occasions, “we’re all in this together”, making of all u.s. citizens, participants, and responsible for their behavior, whether we like it, or not!

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By Folktruther, May 10, 2009 at 9:58 am Link to this comment

Purplegirl- the US war on Afghanistan was started by Brzizinski under Carter, the DEMS not the Gops.  As has amply been documented and not disputed even by Obama cheerleaders.  It was started to overthrow the Soviet supported regime six months before that regime called in the Russians to support it.  Zbig brags about this, since it helped lead to the soviet counter revolution.

The Dems and the Gops promote the very same policy of American imperialism, with different rhetoric.  The Dems, if anything, are even more militaristic than the Gops.  This hundred and fifty people killed was killed under OBAMA, promoting the same war that he inherited from Bush.  Except that he expanded it to Pakistan, as demented an escalation as the original invasion of Iraq.

The parties differ, the men differ, the rhetoric differs: the policies remain the same.

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By Fadel Abdallah, May 10, 2009 at 9:30 am Link to this comment

Here we go again! As it happened numerous times before, in the 7-year American terrorist war against Afghanistan, a large number of civilians are massacred and the explanation given is the same old worn-out American falsehood that the Talibans are responsible for taking those civilians as human shields. Absent from this gruesome false propaganda are the following facts:

1. That the so-called Talibans constitute a good percentage of the Afghani people who are fighting against a foreign brutal occupation and against a government seen as the puppet of that foreign occupation.

2. That the American soldiers are operating under circumstances of fear and hostility not only toward the Taliban, but toward all Afghans, who in looks, physical appearance, manner of dress and way of life are not much different from the Talibans. Under such circumstances, frightened American soldiers act as trigger-happy gangs who are more concerned about their own self-defense and survival more doing thinking about the moral rules of war.

3. The American falsehoods about the Taliban’s taking civilians as human shields are phrases borrowed from the fascist-Israeli terrorists war books fighting against the native Palestinian freedom-fighters.

4. The old despised military phrase of calling such incidents as “collateral damage” has been lately replaced by even worse propaganda gruesome tools of blaming the native victims for allowing themselves to be so-called taken as human shields against their will.

5. These kind of ugly gimmicks in explaining bloody massacres will have the terrible long-term effects of dehumanizing both the victims and the victimizers with its underlying long-term psychological scars for both of them.

6. The political-military American twisted mentality managed to obscure reality for most Americans to the point that most Americans have forgotten that the war against Afghanistan was carried on under the false pretext that the Taliban were directly involved in enabling the 9/11 tragic event, when in reality the supposedly planners and executors of that event where Saudis, Egyptians and Pakistanis. These are three of the so-called American closest allies in the area after beloved Israel, of course!

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By jr., May 10, 2009 at 9:26 am Link to this comment

That kind of deliberate and coordinated effort, bombing innocent civilians amounts to nothing more than terrorism.  Personally, i don’t care what their excuses are to justify those kinds of acts, (i.e., that is war, all’s fair in war, simple human error, etc.), the simple fact is that it’s not the first time and that makes it terrorism. Officials would suggest that it’s the u.s. and that makes it okay, besides, who’s going to stop them.  America’s fighting their war on terror and must win at any cost, even with using terrorism.  I have but one thing to say for them all, YUK!!!

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By Purple Girl, May 10, 2009 at 6:38 am Link to this comment

We abandoned these people 2 decades ago and left a socio-economic political vaccuum for AQ and the Taliban to seize.
and now the Far myopic Left wants to follow the Reagan doctrine of ‘coitus Interruptus’ again.
Little Reality check for the Left and Right- The Reaganites not only supported the fledgling group now known as AQ, but set in motion the well for seen events of 9/11. They used the Afghanis’ as cover fro their covert war against the USSR, then left them like discarded whores to suffer the oppression of the Taliban and AQ.
There fields were seized and converted to the more profitable international prodcution of herione, not to improve the lives of the poverty stricken afghani population, but to fund their terrorist organizations and agendas.
So we can be outraged that the Taliban and AQ use these people as human shields during direct combat- but we are the ones who let them fall victim to this stratedgy long ago.
so feel bad about the 147 killed in this attack,but Know we are the ones who put them in that position to begin with. Had we not backed Bin laden, focused our efforts on huamnitarian efforts during and after the Russian invasion of the ‘80’s, Afghanistan would never have beome the safe haven college Campus of AQ and their moral justifiers the Taliban. Take a bow all you die hard Reaganites- You are the reason 9/11 happened and the Afghani people are now being slaughtered by both sides.

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By geronimo, May 9, 2009 at 6:36 pm Link to this comment
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Once again we have what amounts to the foxes deciding who raided the hen house, what with the invading U.S. army supposedly investigating who & what did in more than a hundred civilians during these airstrikes.  Undoubtedly the outcome of this so-called investigation will be to clear the U.S. military of any responsibility for the many Afghans killed - “The Taliban did it, not us.”  Shades of the Israeli military’s exonerating itself after supposedly having investigated the behavior of its soldiers during Israel’s recent war upon Gaza.  With investigations like these, what difference the facts?

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