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Pot Politics: California Could Go All the WayPosted on Oct 29, 2009
California was the first to legalize medicinal marijuana and, if three ballot measures and a bill floating around the state legislature have anything to say about it, the Golden State could be the first to legalize and tax adult marijuana use across the board. Don’t get too excited. Ending pot prohibition is tricky politics, even in a state that grows and sells billions of dollars worth of the stuff every year. And while the Justice Department has relaxed its stand on medical marijuana, federal officials aren’t crazy about Cali’s reefer madness. Yet legalization advocates are closer than ever to their ultimate goal. It’s a lesson learned by other movements: Get a toehold. You can see that in the health care debate. Is there any doubt most proponents of the public option would prefer single-payer? On the other side of the political spectrum, pro-lifers have had a lot more success chipping away at and restricting abortion rights than getting Roe v. Wade overturned. —PZS
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By Leefeller, November 2, 2009 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment
Since I have no Elephant in the room on this issue, except I would prefer to see a skunk law keeping Pot stink a substantial distance away from neighbors, sort of like smokers having their designated smoking areas far, far away and preferably under water.
As for government revenuers, how about legalizing prostitution or pedophilia (maybe legalize all the philia’s) and of course airport bathrooms sex, then the money would be rolling in, maybe even enough to afford another war?
Report thisBy DHFabian, October 31, 2009 at 6:10 pm Link to this comment
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Legalize marijuana with the inclusion of a tobacco-level tax. Instead of draining the budget to enforce anti-marijuana laws, turn it into a source of government revenues. We know from the widespread use of marijuana, among a full spectrum of society, that the American people have rejected government’s prohibition of this product.
Given the severity of our economic crisis, we need to re-think our zeal to rely on heavy-handed mandates and punitive measures.
Report thisBy amunaor, October 30, 2009 at 11:59 am Link to this comment
Legalize? YES!
But, let’s not allow the Wall Street Casinos to get their hands on this one also; where the material scientists, Monsanto etc., start pumping the plant with steroids to make it grow fa$ter: quantity, not quality.
Peace, Best Wishes and Hope
Report thisBy Leefeller, October 30, 2009 at 9:09 am Link to this comment
Legalization may mean taking out more food producing land for the corporate opportunists and opportunists in general. Maybe they will take out some of the vineyards in California replacing them with pot farms, so the price of wine may go up or food, then what of imports?
People can grow their own tomato, so why not grow their own pot, though the smell from pot is obnoxious, smells like a skunk!
My observation of recreational users is pot seems to transcend people from being responsive citizens, to drag ass and with little concern of others property. Though I find the smell more of a potential problem, than the drag ass people who may be wondering around.
Report thisBy Russian Paul, October 30, 2009 at 3:18 am Link to this comment
ChaoticGood, I used to live in Santa Cruz as a student. Are you talking about the
brown apple moth spray? CheckMate LBAM-F, I believe it was called. Were there
others? I have had strange autoimmune allergies as well as unexplained
lymphodema, both idiopathic. Doctors have no idea what triggered it, but I’m
pretty sure it had something to do with those pesticides.
As for legalization, I am definitley in favor, but we need to make sure we know
Report thisexactly how much the tax will be, if any “preservatives” will be added, who exactly
will be growing it/selling it, will growing be illegal as tobacco is? There certainly
are downsides to legalization, all marijuana-proponents need to proceed
cautiously.
By Ouroborus, October 30, 2009 at 3:16 am Link to this comment
It would probably drop the prison populations by more
Report thisthan half; thus saving billions nation wide and
tens/hundreds of millions in California alone.
By Ouroborus, October 30, 2009 at 3:13 am Link to this comment
Well, it’s a good first step; next, legalize all drugs
Report thisand let the police go after real criminals. And just
think of the tax revenues the states can collect. Self
financing treatment programs and no more crashed state
budgets.
By Existentialist, October 29, 2009 at 6:52 pm Link to this comment
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This is great news.
Can I point something out though?
I am all for personal and medicinal use. But, something gets forgotten in the RE-legalization debate (it was legal before it was made illegal): industrial legalization. Yes, that’s right.
I understand that people may be against it for medicinal/personal use, but let’s not forget the industrial applications of this plant. It has many uses that can be beneficial to all.
After all, this country has had a LONG, rich history with hemp, and the production/industrialization of that crop.
I would like to see more about industrialization brought up in the news, and the mainstream news. They so often fail to bring up this third part of marijuana legalization.
Report thisBy JohnMcD, October 29, 2009 at 6:12 pm Link to this comment
Its about time - no wait, its way past due.
Not only should we stop putting people in jail for a plant, we need to start releasing those who have done no crime of physical violence or theft. Prison is supposed to protect society from violent sociopaths, not create jobs for guards and construction because we don’t approve of someone’s personal and private lifestyle.
Report thisBy ChaoticGood, October 29, 2009 at 5:20 pm Link to this comment
I live near Santa Cruz, California. In Santa Cruz, pot has been unofficially decriminalized for a long time. The DEA gets no help from local police because of a city ordinance that does not allow the local police to help the DEA with pot enforcement in any way.
Report thisBefore the change in cooperation, the DEA routinely sprayed noxious, agent orange type defoliants every year all over our community. It killed all types of plants and made people sick. They still do it in the mountains near us, but now they cannot do in in populated areas like they did before. The war on drugs is a war on us.
There should be no legal restriction on what a person grows for their own consumption. What business does the government have here? None, I say.
By Cathy, October 29, 2009 at 4:35 pm Link to this comment
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In society today adults have to make millions of important decisions, a lot of which can have a drastic effect on their lives, even death. We are responsible for our choices, and we suffer and prosper from our choices, it’s what makes each individual who they ultimately become. This is called freedom of choice, ownership of ones self. We are legally allowed to make these choices everyday, including many that can be instantly fatal such as riding recreational dirt bikes for the thrill of it, even though it could cost us our lives, its our choice to make.
By trying to force people into not consuming a natural plant we are effectively causing more harm than if we were to let each adult make their own choices and except the consequences for those choices. The harm prohibition has brought to not just our own country, but the vast majority of the world is on a remarkably large scale, and threatens our national security. By choosing to prohibit this substance, we have chosen to ignore it and to let it be controlled by the black market. This in turn has enriched criminal enterprises to the point they have the financial power to compete with their own governments on a military bases as seen in Mexico. This is a national security threat. Marijuana is less harmful than alcohol, and the majority of citizens know this, this in turn creates disrespect for law enforcement thereby furthering the deterioration of our community as a whole. It is inhumane to lock a person in a cage and take away their belongings they worked for when they did nothing to harm any other individual or society. Current marijuana laws are a civil rights nightmare waiting to happen, and only makes marijuana readily available to anyone of any age. The laws are obviously bad, expensive and unyielding in accomplishments. We spend billions each year to try and stop marijuana consumption, and yet the DEA admits they would be surprised if they are even getting 1% of the drugs being transported. That’s a bad investment, and the majorities do not agree with it, and there is no justification for making marijuana illegal in the first place.
Prohibition is bad for our kids as they have complete access to it as long as its being controlled by the black market, what we need is control and regulation to minimize the exposure of drugs to young children. As long as it is illegal or decriminalized there will be a black market selling it at a marked up value because of risk, and all the harm will continue.
By legalizing marijuana we are effectively controlling its distribution, and can much better regulate its use by age limits.
Simply put, it’s a real no brainer and it will eventually happen, so if it’s not working now, and has the potential to be better why would we stay put?
Let’s not continue to turn regular tax paying citizens into tax burdens for the rest of us,
there comes a time when you have to realize a bad investment is a bad investment.
Please help us do the right thing, listen to the people of California who have bravely stood up for a positive change in our society, drugs may not bee good for us, but prohibition has proven far worse.
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