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Surprise! Lieberman Stabs Dems in the BackPosted on Oct 27, 2009
Now that serial opportunist Joe Lieberman is holding health care reform hostage in the Senate, we wonder whether the president regrets shielding the Connecticut independent from political retribution. Democrats had wanted to punish Lieberman, you may recall, for the many nasty things he said during the 2008 campaign. Although he caucuses with the Democrats (in theory, anyway) and considers himself to be one, Lieberman is technically an independent. That’s because the Democrats of his state got fed up with Lieberman’s diet Republican routine and nominated Ned Lamont to run against him. The former rival was quoted by Politico responding to Lieberman’s latest betrayal: “To me, it’s a generational opportunity. ... To me, to filibuster, to delay and delay is failure.” The former vice presidential candidate says he doesn’t believe in the public option, but we suspect his opposition to the Senate bill is just an old-fashioned mugging. If that’s true, it’s despicable. People are dying for lack of affordable health care. Delaying urgently needed reform for political gain is repugnant. It’s also exactly the kind of behavior we’ve come to expect from Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut. —PZS Advertisement Previous item: Two Arrested for Alleged Plot on Danish Paper Next item: Blue Dog Fundraising Dries Up CommentsAre you a Truthdig member yet? Login now, or register with Truthdig. Add Your Comment |
By diamond, October 31, 2009 at 2:09 pm Link to this comment
Why was my reply to inherit the flatulence censored? Struck a raw nerve did it? The truth has a way of doing that.
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, October 29, 2009 at 5:06 pm Link to this comment
diamond, October 29 at 7:25 pm #
Johnny Hempseed that would only work if they locked the woodshed and threw away the key. Thanks to his friends the Israelis Lieberman has so much dirt on people in the Democratic party that they can’t do anything about Lieberman’s blatant disloyalty and his obvious Republican allegiance. This is what the Israelis do when they’re not killing civilians: collect dirt on politicians of all persuasions so they can blackmail them. I was reading yesterday about the bi-sexual Democratic Congresswoman who was set up in a sexual dalliance with a woman - with her bedroom bugged and cameras in place. It was the Israelis who tapped Bill Clintons’s White House phone to create the Monica Lewinsky scandal so that Clinton would call off an investigation into two Israeli spies who were working in the White House. The Republicans then used that scandal to try to bring Clinton down but to their horror he got re-elected anyway. Lieberman is like an unexploded bomb and he is completely corrupt and in the pay of the health insurance industry, as is his wife.
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You really need to get back in touch with reality as your fantasy world is leading you to make laughably IDIOTIC statements.
The Israelis bugged the WHITE HOUSE phones?? That’s a good one!
And Clinton got re-elected despite the Monica Lewinsky scandal? That’s an even better one! (don’t forget: ML is Jewish—that goes well with your dope-head conspiracy).
Now for two VERY inconvenient facts:
1) Linda Tripp began taping her phone calls with Monica in September of 1997. That’s a fact. The scandal didn’t break until 1998.
2) The ELECTION was held in November of 1996—that is NOT open to question. I know. I voted in it.
Your conclusion that Clinton won despite the Monica Lewinsky scandal is simply impossible. And it’s so laughably obvious that anyone but a kook like you would have instantly spotted it.
Report thisBy diamond, October 29, 2009 at 3:25 pm Link to this comment
Johnny Hempseed that would only work if they locked the woodshed and threw away the key. Thanks to his friends the Israelis Lieberman has so much dirt on people in the Democratic party that they can’t do anything about Lieberman’s blatant disloyalty and his obvious Republican allegiance. This is what the Israelis do when they’re not killing civilians: collect dirt on politicians of all persuasions so they can blackmail them. I was reading yesterday about the bi-sexual Democratic Congresswoman who was set up in a sexual dalliance with a woman - with her bedroom bugged and cameras in place. It was the Israelis who tapped Bill Clintons’s White House phone to create the Monica Lewinsky scandal so that Clinton would call off an investigation into two Israeli spies who were working in the White House. The Republicans then used that scandal to try to bring Clinton down but to their horror he got re-elected anyway. Lieberman is like an unexploded bomb and he is completely corrupt and in the pay of the health insurance industry, as is his wife.
Report thisBy johnny hempseed, October 29, 2009 at 6:46 am Link to this comment
Mr Lieberman, received $424,644.00 in 2006 from insurance industry P.A.C.s.He is an honest politician ,“once he’s bought he stays bought.If this watered down bill fails,maybe the president will start from scratch with a single payer system.I supported LaMont but as an independent green none of my reps. represent my demographic.He and Dod both voted for the F22,and Murphy is supporting the AfPac incursion/occupation.I think he should be stripped of his committee chair and sent to the woodshed to repent! peace
Report thisBy BSGAdama, October 29, 2009 at 5:34 am Link to this comment
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Here is the deal with Joe. He is holding the one vote over Obama’s head as leverage on the issues of Israel/Pal conflict and of course Iran. He wants to push Obama towards accommodating Bibi Netanyahu’s policies.
This is what AIPAC is good at. Holding key domestic issues hostage so they can have their way in foreign policy matters.
Report thisBy Sepharad, October 28, 2009 at 8:59 pm Link to this comment
naderpaulkucinichgravel—You forgot to add “hitler”, or do you just want to conjure up an up-to-date whiz-bang-V8-neo-nazi American-style?
Report thisInherit the Wind—Your suggestion that Reid demand loyalty to Dem issues as a condition for him keeping his committee memberships is better than mine was. Every vote counts.
By johnny hempseed, October 28, 2009 at 6:06 pm Link to this comment
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In the year the photo accompanying this piece was taken ,2006 Sen.Lieberman received $424,644.00 in insurance industry contributions according to open secrets.org.The dog in the photo probably has better health care than 45 million Americans.Hey Joe are those prescription sunglasses your dog is wearing?I supported Ned LaMont and wish Connecticut could recall this schmuck.There are petitions to Democratic leadership to strip any Senators filibustering with the Republicans of their committee chairs forming ,I hope they succeed.This hypocrite even gives independents indigestion.Just say no to Joe. peace
Report thisBy @CT, October 28, 2009 at 4:17 pm Link to this comment
“I think it’s highly unlikely he represents the agenda of either Obama or Harry Reid. He’s always worked for the Republicans and he still does and THEY fear the public option as if it was bubonic plague on both ideological and financial grounds - since so many of them have been paid off by the health insurance industry and the pharmaceutical companies.”
No need for the Republicans, closet Republicans, OR insurance/pharma corporations to fear ObamaCare on financial grounds—if it passes, it’s their biig bailout.
So ... something else is going on. Maybe along the lines of what thebeerdoctor suggests.
Report thisBy diamond, October 28, 2009 at 2:28 pm Link to this comment
Yes, the Senator from Tel Aviv strikes again. It’s frightening to contemplate what this rectum has on the Democrats that they can’t deal with him. But then again, they did basically dis-endorse him and he still managed to crawl back in by being elected by Republican voters. I think it’s highly unlikely he represents the agenda of either Obama or Harry Reid. He’s always worked for the Republicans and he still does and THEY fear the public option as if it was bubonic plague on both ideological and financial grounds - since so many of them have been paid off by the health insurance industry and the pharmaceutical companies. Just bear in mind that Liebermann would have been Vice President if Al Gore had won in 2000. Amazing isn’t it: however horrible things are they could have been just that little bit more horrible.
Report thisBy @CT, October 28, 2009 at 11:10 am Link to this comment
fredmoz writes:
“I hope I am wrong but I believe senator Lieberman is doing the bidding for Pres O and Reid.”
Interesting. People might read a comment by thebeerdoctor, at today’s new piece, by Robert Scheer, on Lieberman.
Report thisBy johnnyrondo, October 28, 2009 at 11:10 am Link to this comment
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The fact is Sen. Lieberman is responding to the overwhelming opposition to the health care bill that his contituents have demonstrated. I applaud the Senator for representing us!
Report thisBy @CT, October 28, 2009 at 10:59 am Link to this comment
ardee writes:
“Interesting that @CT comments upon a bill not yet written, making specific accusations impossible to confirm, and quite probably as wrong as most of what he posts here ... I await a bill to be actually written before making specific and baseless accusations about it.”
Wha?? ardee—like most of the Congress, and everybody else—will await in vain. (Remember, waaay last spring, when Oblabla wanted a vote on the “bill”?)
A couple of hours ago I attempted to post some recent news pieces ON the Medicaid matter, only to have one of the articles, an inoffensive piece at thehill dot com, come up as “Blacklisted”—and the post in the comment screen disappeared, to boot. I assume this is dirty tricks from beyond TruthDig, but who knows?
Anyway, trying again:
“Covering people through Medicaid is cheaper for the government than providing subsidies for the purchase of private insurance or the new public plan.”
For Reid and Pelosi, Still a Long Way to Go
http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/past-one-hurdle-reid-and-pelosi-face-many-more/
” ... the $859 billion proposal would shift millions more people onto Medicaid instead of offering them federal subsidies to buy private insurance.”
CBO Estimates House Health Bill at $905B or Less
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/10/house_health_bill_trimmed_by_3.html
“The savings are achieved by relying more on state-funded Medicaid services ... “
Revised House bills have cheaper price tag
(link is “blacklisted”)
from the right, but informative:
Why Congress Wants to Force More Americans into Medicaid
http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/wm2662.cfm#_ftn1
“Under the latest Senate Finance Committee proposal, nearly half of the newly insured population will go into Medicaid or SCHIP.”
Report thisExpanding the Medicaid Status Quo Is Not Health Reform
http://healthcare.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzMwZjk3ZDlmY2VlZjQyODlhNmMwYTc3YmZlYjBkYTg=
By fredmoz, October 28, 2009 at 9:44 am Link to this comment
I hope I am wrong but I believe senator Lieberman is doing the bidding for Pres O and Reid. Now O and R come out saying we tried. In fact Lieberman saying exactly what President O said in his speech to Congress. Remember President O and R were open supporter of Baucus bill. Ask yourself, did Baucus bill included public option?
Report thisBy FreeWill, October 28, 2009 at 7:53 am Link to this comment
Liberman’s wife, Hadassah worked for the lobbying company, APCO Associates, that had many pharmaceutical and healthcare corporations among its clients, as well as four major drug companies such as Pfizer. In March 2005, Hadassah was hired by Hill & Knowlton as “senior counselor” in the firm’s “health care and pharmaceuticals practice.” Hadassah’s close relationship with pharmaceutical and healthcare corporations while her husband introduced legislation benefiting these exact companies has raised questions about improprieties and conflict of interest.
Report thisAnd you expect Joe to vote for health care reform????
Wake up fellow Citizens, our government has been overthrown. No shots were fire, Many of our side have died and are dying. Our resources have been plundered and the King and his court are now firmly in charge. Welcome to the New World Order.
By Bud, October 28, 2009 at 6:43 am Link to this comment
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There isn’t enough words in my vocabulary to express my contempt for that pig named Lieberman.The democrats have no one to blame for this situation but themselves.OK DEMS,let’s strip that bastard!!
Report thisBy dihey, October 28, 2009 at 6:10 am Link to this comment
Remember who campaigned for Lieberman?
Report thisBy Inherit The Wind, October 28, 2009 at 2:40 am Link to this comment
nader paul kucinich gravel, October 28 at 2:43 am #
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Wall Street
Art students
9/11 snow job
Chicken hawks
Moving company
Propaganda media
DNC stealth neocons
Anti-semitism accusers
The chosen the superior
2-3% of the US population
Extortion blackmail bribery
By deception ye shall wage war
AIPAC’s Israel-first dual-nationals
For profit NotFederal NoReserve scam
~ Words are plentiful deeds are precious
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As disgusting a list of “code words” for “dirty Jews” as any poster has ever put up at TD. Where’s your swastika?
Meanwhile, back to the issue at hand: I hope Reid has the balls and spine to tell Lieberman: “You are only welcome in our caucus as long as you vote with us on the big issues. If you dare to defy us, ALL your committee roles will be at an end. We will replace you on EVERY committee with Democrats. AND, on every private issue YOU want for Connecticut, we will block you unless Dodd requests it as well!”
In other words, Reid needs to warn Lieberman that he faces the “nuclear option” if he votes to support a Re-Thuglican filibuster.
Report thisBy Shift, October 28, 2009 at 2:32 am Link to this comment
Lieberman is even beneath name-calling; however, gutteral noises are in order.
Report thisBy ardee, October 28, 2009 at 2:21 am Link to this comment
@CT, October 27 at 10:12 pm
Interesting that @CT comments upon a bill not yet written, making specific accusations impossible to confirm, and quite probably as wrong as most of what he posts here.
I have my real doubts about how effective such reform will be but I also note how crippling our current care is , both to the millions without access, the million or so who will be bankrupted this year by that system, and to our economy.
But, unlike this poster, I await a bill to be actually written before making specific and baseless accusations about it.
Dont look behind the curtain folks….
Report thisBy paul bass, October 27, 2009 at 10:48 pm Link to this comment
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“Now that serial opportunist Joe Lieberman” what a false description.
Report thisjoe Lieberman is a fiercely loyal and principled man. i know of no situation where he has gone against his constituent in Boeing and Lockheed and the rest of the MIC
By nader paul kucinich gravel, October 27, 2009 at 10:43 pm Link to this comment
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Wall Street
Art students
9/11 snow job
Chicken hawks
Moving company
Propaganda media
DNC stealth neocons
Anti-semitism accusers
The chosen the superior
2-3% of the US population
Extortion blackmail bribery
By deception ye shall wage war
AIPAC’s Israel-first dual-nationals
For profit NotFederal NoReserve scam
~ Words are plentiful deeds are precious
Report thisBy Sepharad, October 27, 2009 at 10:11 pm Link to this comment
Beltwaylaid & GregDiablo, I don’t think Sen. Lieberman’s healthcare rap would get a sympathetic hearing in Israel, which has never NOT had a public health program.
Usually have no problem with Independents, but because the public healthcare option is so important, and so defines what Democrats are SUPPOSED to be about, that I don’t see how Sen. Lieberman can in good conscience remain on any committee, at least not as a representative of the Democratic Party we wish we had, even the one we’ve got. Must admit I’m very disappointed with his behavior. When he ran with Gore, I still thought he was a good and sincere individual if not exactly in lockstep with my own ideas of what Democrats should be. Now, I have to question his sincerity just as I’m questioning Obama’s intentions for this country both here and abroad.
Report thisBy Beltwaylaid, October 27, 2009 at 8:54 pm Link to this comment
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Hey, Joe. The Israeli Parliament could use a guy like
Report thisyou…. and I think you would be welcome too. Hint.
Hint.
By mackTN, October 27, 2009 at 7:46 pm Link to this comment
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Those of you who think health care reform was going to happen in one fell swoop—and until a few weeks ago, I did, and certainly during the campaign, I was led to believe it so—you (including me) are naive. These elected officials are in conflict over politics and power, not over the the health and well being of constituents. I love it how these people get elected and then go to Washington and do what they want, do whatever can fill their personal coffers and raise their own value. In the meantime, banks and insurance companies will continue to stick it to us, we are their gigantic and bottomless ATM machine. “Hey, let’s get another $100 billion in profits by raising premiums by $20 and doubling the price of non-generic prescriptions. Remember when drugs used to go generic after 3 or 4 years?
Campaign finance reform. Stop taking money from the corporations you must deal with legislatively. Joe Lieberman is the poster child for the insurance industry, information readily available in opensecrets.org. Issues, schmissues—the man wants money. Want his support—pay the man. What a serpent.
Remember he’s the guy who blocked a hearing into the failures of Hurricane Katrina rescue for George Bush. Which is why he has a giant B emblazoned on his forehead.
Report thisBy peacenik1, October 27, 2009 at 7:14 pm Link to this comment
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Don’t forget that Hadassah Lieberman has a big job with the healthcare industry
(Google her). No way ol’ Joe is going to vote for any healthcare reform package
that will interfere with Hadassah’s lucrative sinecure.
It’s time for Democrats to pick a good candidate to run against the two-faced,
opportunist Lieberman. I will be happy to contribute to a qualified person.
He doesn’t have the welfare of the American people at heart.
Report thisBy Ed Harges, October 27, 2009 at 6:48 pm Link to this comment
The only silver lining in the dark cloud of the stolen 2000 election is that this
Report thisscoundrel was prevented from become our Vice President.
By Inherit The Wind, October 27, 2009 at 6:45 pm Link to this comment
For once I agree with Patrick Henry.
When Joe Lieberman undercuts and betrays the Dems yet again and again, I am reminded of David Niven’s comment on Errol Flynn:
“You can count on Errol Flynn, he’ll always let you down.”
Report thisBy @CT, October 27, 2009 at 6:12 pm Link to this comment
“People are dying for lack of affordable health care.”
Nothing about ObamaCare would change THAT—especially with mandating millions of the poor, near-poor, and about-to-be poor into the rolling Death Panel of Medicaid (pill-mill clinics, no second opinions, limited procedures and medications, Estate Benefit Recovery Act liability for people 55 to 65, etc., no private treatment outside the Medicaid system for those who beg, borrow or steal the $ to see a real doctor, etc.).
—> Nothing that involves MANDATING people into Medicaid—under the control of the states, and already hacked to nothing in, among other places, California—is “reform”.
The hijacked Democrats want a “win” for Obama, at the cost of wrecking the medical system worse than it already IS, to the immense profit of the corporations.
(Not that Lieberman isn’t a turn-coat ... remember, though, that Lieberman was the treacherous Oblabla’s mentor in the Senate. They’re both Republican-lite, no news there.)
Report thisBy GregDiablo, October 27, 2009 at 6:01 pm Link to this comment
SJ, I think you got the ending of that parable wrong. In the original (IIRC), the
scorpion goes down with ol’ froggy. That’s why the frog was so astonished by the
sting, and why he took the scorpion on his back in the first place; he knew that if
the scorpion stung, he would perish as well.
So the moral is nature trumps self-preservation. In LIEberman’s case, that isn’t
Report thisexactly analogous since he is sinking the Dems, and technically, he isn’t one
anymore.
By SJinEUG, October 27, 2009 at 5:04 pm Link to this comment
It’s the parable of the scorpion and the frog.
As long as he needed a lift across the river the scorpion promised the frog he wouldn’t sting him. Once he got across the river on the frog’s back he stung the frog.
As ol’froggy lay dying he said, “Why did you sting me?” and the answer, as the scorpion scurried off….
Report this” It’s in my nature”.
By lichen, October 27, 2009 at 5:03 pm Link to this comment
Yeah, and I remember on here all the vapid party-line democrats insisting “the democrats are not about revenge” regarding allowing this far-right clown to keep his power in the senate.
Report thisBy GregDiablo, October 27, 2009 at 4:25 pm Link to this comment
A pox on Israel for this quisling’s betrayal. CT, you should be ashamed of
Report thisyourselves for voting this SOB in over Lamont.
By GregDiablo, October 27, 2009 at 4:23 pm Link to this comment
A pox on Israel for this quisling’s betrayal.
Report thisBy Observaner, October 27, 2009 at 3:35 pm Link to this comment
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There we go again . . . another great example by
Report this>A typical prick-of-a-sleazy Dig<
who once more underlines what the rest of the world already knew for some time,but should always be in
the back of everybody`s head,simply ever wondering
* * Can you trust an Austrian * *
By My3Cats, October 27, 2009 at 2:59 pm Link to this comment
Lieberman, so observant and devout to his religion, doesn’t seem to have any trouble kicking poor suffering Americans to the curb if (for example) health care reform doesn’t advance his own political agenda.
The good old boys club of the Senate (with a couple of girls thrown in for good measure) controls every breath we take everyday of our lives. There’s nothing we can do. Elections don’t count. Our votes don’t matter.
Lieberman needs to be stripped of his committee posts and banished to a dark corner. He’s a useless sonovabitch and I’m tired, tired, tired of bailing out Wall Street and paying for tax cuts to the rich.
I say, overthrow the government! Vote them out 2010 and 2012!
Report thisBy Fat Freddy, October 27, 2009 at 2:55 pm Link to this comment
Surprise! Lieberman Stabs Dems in the Back
I guess I just don’t understand politics. Wouldn’t he want to stab the GOP in the back for not giving him the VP nomination?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_rOCDG_btk
2:05 - “We want one of our own, and not that Jew”
Report thisBy PatrickHenry, October 27, 2009 at 2:52 pm Link to this comment
I hope Lieberman gets kicked off every committee he is currently on.
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