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Obama Orders Salary CutsPosted on Oct 22, 2009
In a move to quell public outrage, President Obama has ordered the government’s “pay czar” to cut by 90 percent the multimillion-dollar salaries that executives of seven bank and auto companies are receiving, citing the fact that these firms are entirely dependent on U.S. taxpayer money for financial survival. —JCL
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By cynner, October 22, 2009 at 4:56 pm Link to this comment
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What’s that I hear?
It’s the sound of Wall Street denizens laughing all the way to the bank!
Report thisBy BobZ, October 22, 2009 at 4:44 pm Link to this comment
“Nobody called Eisenhower a “socialist”.”
Actually Barry Goldwater did call Eisenhower a “socialist”. He said this in the
Report thisSenate chamber in 1958 and called Eisenhower a “dime store new dealer”. That
said, I agree with your overall thought. What is interesting is that study after study
has shown that tax policy has had very little affect on overall economic growth,
yet conservatives think tax cuts drive economic growth. Amazing how little
Republican’s really know about economics and business.
By BobZ, October 22, 2009 at 4:27 pm Link to this comment
“Believe it or not but I think it would be UNFAIR to summarily cut a person’s salary
by 90% or even 50% in one fell swoop.”
Huh - these guys made more in one month then we will make in our lifetimes.
They could take 100% paycut and still have money left over to buy another home
in the Hamptons and a Ferrari to boot.
What is unfair is how these idiots gambled with our money and lost half of it.
Report thisBy RAE, October 22, 2009 at 4:22 pm Link to this comment
Believe it or not but I think it would be UNFAIR to summarily cut a person’s salary by 90% or even 50% in one fell swoop.
As extravagent and excessive as their lifestyles likely have become a pay cut of that size would lead to bankrupcies and a great deal of chaos and misery for many “colaterals” such as children in the family.
I suggest a graduated pay reduction over several years to allow for those involved to rearrange their living to meet their future income - A CEILING OF $500,000 GROSS (all stocks, bonds, bonuses, etc., included). All income that comes their way over that will be taxed at 100%. No one in the country should require a greater income than the President.
The only “clause” I would allow would read something like this. “This maximum of $500,000 per annum will be raised ONLY when surveys indicate that ALL CITIZENS have the opportunity and means to “enjoy” living in a SAFE ENVIRONMENT, FREE FROM HUNGER and with FULL ACCESS TO ALL NECESSARY HEALTH CARE.
When everyone’s basic needs are met then, and only then, would I allow a reasonable adjustment in the top incomes in the country.
Perhaps this might even be an incentive for even the greediest to work towards creating a system that shares the wealth a little more equitably… the sooner they arrange things so those at the bottom of the pecking order have at least the means to live some sort of dignified existence, the sooner they can have their pay increased.
Report thisBy katydid, October 22, 2009 at 3:01 pm Link to this comment
1 in 6 Americans now live at/below the poverty line.
Report thisMeanwhile military spending continues to climb. Corporations own a majority of our Congresspeople so the average American has no voice in the governing/lawmaking process.
I fear if this continues unabated, revolution will be coming to America and it will not be pretty.
By GoyToy, October 22, 2009 at 2:13 pm Link to this comment
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Why did Obama also order cut in government salaries, particularly those of senior officials. Most government salaries are highly inflated.
Report thisBy ardee, October 22, 2009 at 1:02 pm Link to this comment
Cutting salaries of folks who get stock options at far less than the traded value of the stock seems a pointless exercise in duping the public into believing that something is being done.
The CEO of my own company, a large public utility, got 60,000 shares at zero cost when the stock was trading at fifty. This was completely separate from his other compensations. A little quarterly bonus .......
Better that Obama insist upon repayment of all TARP and stimulus funding and assurances that such will never happen again.
Report thisBy diman, October 22, 2009 at 1:01 pm Link to this comment
By iRa, October 22 at 12:47 pm #
...used to help communities across our US create “green” education and with that sustainable jobs…
What kind of “green” education you are talking about?
... keep up the “good” stuff; we are progressing (believe it or not); just have to convice the “Obstructors”.
Again what is the so-called “good” stuff mean
and who are the “obstructors” ?
Sounds like a bunch of incoherent mumbo-jumbo to me.
Report thisBy chrisx, October 22, 2009 at 11:05 am Link to this comment
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This is a public relation campaign to mollify the public and obscure the fundamental fact that what is needed is a root-to-branch reform of the financial system.
Report thisMervin King, the governor of Bank of England, recently advocated that the casino, the speculative part of banking should be split off from the utility, the money transaction and lending part. This was the way more or less it was before the repeal of Glass-Steagall act. The Glass-Steagall Act prohibited any one institution from acting as any combination of an investment bank, a commercial bank, and/or an insurance company. This provision was repealed by Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. Obama wagging a finger at executive pay may be an effective populist posture, but it will not prevent another massive taxpayer bailout of the likes of Goldman in not so distant future
By ocjim, October 22, 2009 at 10:47 am Link to this comment
How about cutting the power of Wall Street overall. How about regulation of the greed-fest and risk-taking at our expense.
Report thisBy bEHOLD_tHE_mATRIX, October 22, 2009 at 9:47 am Link to this comment
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I agree with de profundis clamavi. Our slippery slope
Report thisto oligarchy began with the modification of these steep
rates in the sixties.
By iRa, October 22, 2009 at 9:47 am Link to this comment
Hi everyone…I kinda think that whatever the amount of $alaries being trimmed, should go into a “financial vehicle” that would be used to help communities across our US create “green” education and with that sustainable jobs…
This would be money used very wisely and further President Barack’s ideals…
Just a thought, keep up the “good” stuff; we are progressing (believe it or not); just have to convice the “Obstructors”.
The very best to all…
iRa
Report thisBy jj, October 22, 2009 at 9:44 am Link to this comment
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“If they don’t like the new America, they should move”
Uh. They *made* the new America and it’s serving them just fine.
Report thisBy Folktruther, October 22, 2009 at 9:38 am Link to this comment
Complete bullshit. Pure politial theater to deceive and mollify the American people, the function of both the Conservative and Progressive media. There is no way in the US power system for the governement to prevent a corporation from paying their executives anything they want, short of EFFECTIVELY raising their taxes.
But the plutocracy did not put Obama in office to raise their taxes. So the pretense of the salary Czar, forcing the payment to be done secretly or in the future when the population is distracted by media trivia.
Report thisBy de profundis clamavi, October 22, 2009 at 9:10 am Link to this comment
Cutting the salaries and fringe benefits of these pigs is a good start. To finish the job, take the rest of it away from them with steeply graduated income taxes. The Republican Eisenhower administration of the 1950s provide a good example: the top rate of income tax on incomes over $400,000 (equivalent to, say, roughly $2,500,000 today) was 90%. Nobody called Eisenhower a “socialist”.
If they don’t like the new America, they should move so, say, Colombia.
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