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Oklahoma’s New Abortion Law Not OK, Say Critics

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Posted on Oct 18, 2009
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Jennifer Mondino, lawyer for the Center for Reproductive Rights, says that the Oklahoma law is intended to “make women more nervous about going to [abortion] doctors.”

A new Oklahoma law, effective Nov. 1, will require women seeking abortions to reveal personal information such as marital status, number of children and race—all of which will be posted online. Critics say that the intent is intimidation.

The Guardian:

Women seeking abortions in Oklahoma are to be forced to reveal an array of personal information, such as the state of their relationships, how many children they have and their race, which will be posted on an official website.

Abortion rights groups say the new law is intended to intimidate women because, although it does not require them to reveal their names, other information to be made public will sometimes be enough to identify them.

The move, which takes effect on 1 November, comes after a judge struck down a law that would have forced women to undergo an ultrasound and to listen to a doctor’s description of the embryo or foetus before a termination.

[...] Doctors face prosecution and loss of their medical licences for failing to provide the state with the required information.

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By NYCartist, October 20, 2009 at 11:01 am Link to this comment

purplewolf,
  I think there has always been uterus envy.  And I think “penis envy” as a concept is baloney.

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By NYCartist, October 20, 2009 at 10:57 am Link to this comment

johannes,
  What is the point of your comment about my uterus in re the antiabortion attacks?

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By purplewolf, October 20, 2009 at 10:01 am Link to this comment

What happened to all the “privacy rights” that Bush forced upon people of this country? What a joke that one was.You cannot even talk to a doctor about your parents medical treatment because of this privacy issue crap,but it is the same one in which total nosy strangers can find out all your private information, yet your own family cannot.

A group of anti-abortionists from New York a few years back tried to get the abortion information on all abortions preformed on Michigan women,claiming they were looking for doctors who preformed abortions on under age girls/women.It is none of their damned business,especially since they were from another state.

Why do these people feel they have the right to interfere with the lives of total strangers where it is clearly none of their business.To bad we cannot turn the tables on them and invade the lives of these interfering creeps on every aspect of their lives and post it on the Internet.Bet they would raise hell about it.

Paying a woman forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy is a great idea and then let’s make these interfering self-righteous right to lifers take on the burden of yet another excess human from birth to adulthood and in the case of a handicapped fetus carried to term through forced pregnancy to birth,a life time of care.No excuses for being exempt from that task.If they are that concerned then they need to prove their devotion to their cause and buck up and take on the end product of these unwanted forced pregnancies,on top of paying the forced mothers a stipend for their time and work their bodies do making these unwanted babies.

Todd Lamb is a SMF. Providing the name of the fathers and how many babies they have made,with how many different women and if they pay any child support and how much time these fathers spend with their child(ren) and care giving to said children,along with the income level and employers of these fathers and how many marriages,affairs,one-night stands,flings,criminal records,religion,if they want this pregnancy/fetus or are they forcing the woman to have an abortion,are they willing to support the child once it is born,were they engaged or married to another woman when this pregnancy occurred and if so why did they go outside their marriage for sex,etc..these men have had and post it on the Internet as well. As long as it is okay to invade the lives of these women,the men should be “man” enough to stand up and be counted as an active participant in the creation of unwanted pregnancy, then this unfair invasion of a patients right to privacy would end.

Women,rather their uterus’s,are not the property of everyone except the woman’s body in which they located. A woman’s reproductive system does not belong to the government,religious organizations,anti-abortionists or any other person,regardless of what some people feel or think.

Is this a reversal of penis envy,uterus envy?

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By C orinthia, October 19, 2009 at 1:27 pm Link to this comment
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The women should put down the fathers name—since he is not undergoing a medical procedure he has no right to privacy.

Once a couple of these Republican family values guys mistresses put their names on the site—this bullshit will stop.

If men had their name posted as the contributor to this pregnancy, then all these anti-abortion laws would stop.

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By Howie Bledsoe, October 19, 2009 at 12:57 pm Link to this comment
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“Thou shall not kill.”  OK, fine, I accept that. life is a precious thing. How many knee-benders eat meat, though? How many Xtians support the gulf war? How many bible bangers buy products from corporations that enslave and murder 3rd world peasants. THese people need to get head out of ass. Their so-called religion is based on death. Who would J-boy be without a Pontius Pilate? And their god, a wrathfull bastard with a terrible temper who creates mass-murder when He´s pissed off? That´s Jboys dad, we´re talking about.

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By paul bass, October 19, 2009 at 12:08 pm Link to this comment
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why not do the same for all military officers.

we need to shame people to stop killing

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By johannes, October 19, 2009 at 11:26 am Link to this comment

NYCartist


      You make a mistake sex is free and privat, but your uteris belongs to your tribe, so abortis is a question of the society, or you have to live still in the natural state.

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By Louise, October 19, 2009 at 10:45 am Link to this comment

Jim Yell,

Wow!

Your comment offers the perfect solution to Oklahoma’s “head-up-your-ass” conservatives. I particularly like the idea of a 40,000 dollar income to any woman forced to continue an unwanted, possibly fatal pregnancy. And the suggestion that a child created should be given complete upkeep and education through college at public expense, is simply great! After all, a life saved should become a life valued, right? As it is, the last person in line to help the baby is the conservative who demands we save the baby. Right-wing wackos love unborn babies, but seem to not care much about the living ones, especially if they are a tax burden. What’s up with that?

Well I will tell you.

This is not and never has been about support for life. This is only and always has been about some men’s need to control life. And that begins when a woman is flat on her back, right? So yeh, if a self-centered narcissist like Republican state senator Todd Lamb thinks he has the right to fixate on a woman’s sex activity, and fantasize about what’s inside of her, he should welcome the opportunity to pay for all her future sex activity, and any unintended consequence that might happen along the way, right?

Oh, and while he’s at it he can force her to worship his god according to his mirror image of what his god looks like. And then, just for good measure, he can pass a few more snoop laws, like cameras in every bedroom.

What is it with these guys? Doesn’t anybody sleep with them?

And conservatives wonder why porn is a multi-billion dollar industry. smile

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By NYCartist, October 19, 2009 at 10:13 am Link to this comment

Abortion is legal. It’s my uterus. The only information needed by the state is that it is being done in a place that is safe, wheelchair accessible by people who are licensed.  The reasoning for abortion is right to privacy.

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By Jim Yell, October 19, 2009 at 7:31 am Link to this comment
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A woman who can not control her own body is placed in a dependant position and exposed to a process that threatents their health, and imoverishes them for life. The SO Called Pro Lifers are dishonest, manipulative and for the most part will walk away from the consequences of forcing women to continue pregnancies the do not want, or know they can not afford.

They are using the wrong headed idea that it is saving life when forcinig a pregnancy to term agains the wish of the woman and the interests of society is plain wrong. The Bible which they wish to say commands this and perhaps it does, but why should an opinion in the Bible trump a person who either doesn’t believe the Bible, or not in the nightmare of the fundamenalists psycho god?

And, finally lets use the Bible. In the Bible it makes clear that while the death of the woman is murder the death of the unborn is not. I could quote the verse, but have long found that people who swear that we must believe verbatim what is written side step any reference to the multiple contradictions there in. Thou Shalt Not Kill and yet a substantial part of the Bible celebrates mass murder and even declares it was commanded by the God who ordered “Thou Shalt Not Kill”.

And, as far as Oklahoma is concerned this law is just plain arrogant, stupid and if put into affec than all women who are preganant should at the cost of Oklahoma tax payers be paid a $40,000 dollar income for being force to continue their pregnancy and the child created should be given complete upkeep and education thru college at publics expense.

Otherwise these claims of being oh so sensitive to life is just so much bullying and manipulation.

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By johannes, October 19, 2009 at 7:06 am Link to this comment

It must be up to every body to take the best decision in their or her situation.

This has nothing to do with lesbians so they have to renounce them selfs and not giving comment.

The problem is that given the laws for abortion, they are mostley bend thats how humanity behaves, and than its starts sometimes to be murder for my feeling, live is and must be the highest in our civilisation, so no executions neither.

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By nonya, October 19, 2009 at 5:36 am Link to this comment
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I hope they want to know what religion they are as well. I hope they would want to show that the majority of women who get abortions are CHRISTIAN. BUT, I doubt it. Jackasses!

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