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Pessimism on the Israeli-Palestinian Front

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Posted on Oct 8, 2009
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Avigdor Lieberman was brought into the government earlier this year and is a staunch supporter of Israeli settlements.

If optimism is a glass half full, pessimism a glass half empty, Israel Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman is the guy who pours out the glass and proudly proclaims it completely empty. The right-wing politician recently declared that there’s “no chance” of a solution to core issues of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and that people need to learn “to live with it.”

The BBC:

Israel’s foreign minister has said there is no chance of an early solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and told people to “learn to live with it”.

Avigdor Lieberman does not lead Israeli peace negotiations, but his statement casts a pall over latest US diplomatic efforts to revive negotiations.

Envoy George Mitchell is in the region, spearheading Obama administration efforts to re-launch negotiations.

Talks are stalled over the issue of Jewish settlements on occupied land.

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By Inherit The Wind, October 8, 2009 at 7:24 pm Link to this comment

samd11, October 8 at 4:03 pm #
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As repulsive as this racist bigot is, at least he is showing his true colours and speaking truth for his government. Netanyahu has absolutely no intention of pursuing peace with the Palestinians. Israel is digging its own grave.
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Avigdor Lieberman is shaming all Jews.  The only cold comfort I can take is knowing that his evil hatred, bigotry and war-mongering fascism is not in any way unique to Jews, that it afflicts all races and cultures of Mankind, that Stalin, who hated Jews nearly as passionately as Hitler, thought just about the same as Lieberman does, and as Saddam Hussein did, and as Bashir in Sudan does, and as Robert Mugabe does.

But it’s only a cold comfort.

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By Robert, October 8, 2009 at 7:18 pm Link to this comment

October 7, 2009

Tensions Mount Again at Al-Aqsa

A Third Intifada?

By JONATHAN COOK

Nazareth.

“Tension over control of the Haram al Sharif compound of mosques in Jerusalem’s Old City has reached a pitch unseen since clashes at the site sparked the second intifada nine years ago.

Ten days of intermittently bloody clashes between Palestinians and Israeli security forces in Jerusalem culminated yesterday in warnings by Palestinian officials that Israel was “sparking a fire” in the city. Israel’s Jerusalem Post newspaper similarly wondered whether a third intifada was imminent.

Israel, meanwhile, deployed 20,000 police to safeguard the annual Jerusalem march, which was reported to have attracted a crowd of 70,000 passing through sensitive Palestinian neighbourhoods close to the Old City.

The ostensible cause of friction is Israel’s religious holidays that have brought Jewish worshippers to the Western Wall, located next to the Haram al Sharif and traditionally considered the holiest site in Judaism. The wall is the only remnant of the Jewish temple destroyed by Herod in AD70.

At a deeper level for Palestinians, however, the ease with which Jews can access sites in and around Jerusalem, while the city is off-limits to the vast majority of Palestinians, highlights the extent to which Palestinian control over Jerusalem and its holy places has been eroded by four decades of occupation.

That point was reinforced on Sunday when the gates to the mosque compound were shut by Israeli police, who cited safety concerns for 30,000 Jews praying at the Western Wall for Succot.

Jerusalem’s police chief, Aharon Franco, also incensed Palestinians on Monday by castigating them for being “ungrateful” after Israel had allowed them to pray at Al Aqsa during Ramadan.

In fact, only a small proportion of Palestinians can reach the mosque. Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza cannot get past Israel’s separation wall, and the 1.5 million Palestinians in Israel and Jerusalem are finding it harder to pray there. This week police have been allowing only women and Palestinian men with Israeli identification cards showing they are aged at least 50 to enter.”


http://www.counterpunch.org/cook10072009.html

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By Robert, October 8, 2009 at 2:25 pm Link to this comment

The Israel Lobby. Portrait of a Great Taboo

The Power of the Israel Lobby in the United States

This is a must watch video

“Tegenlicht, a documentary program by the Dutch public broadcast organization VPRO, allows several interesting opinion makers to speak on the future of the American and Israel relationship and the reception of John Mearsheimers and Steve Walts article “The Israel Lobby and US foreign policy.”

Includes interviews with John Mearsheimer, former chief of staff to United States Secretary of State Colin Powell, Lawrence Wilkerson, cofounder of the Christians United for Israel lobbying group John Hagee, neoconservative Richard Perle and historian Tony Judt express their views in Marije Meermans and William de Bruijns documentary.”

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17525.htm

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By bforthefall, October 8, 2009 at 1:35 pm Link to this comment
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...there’s “no chance of a solution to core issues of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and that people need to learn “to live with it.”—

And many more Palestinians will, apparently, just have learn to die with it.

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By samd11, October 8, 2009 at 1:03 pm Link to this comment
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As repulsive as this racist bigot is, at least he is showing his true colours and speaking truth for his government. Netanyahu has absolutely no intention of pursuing peace with the Palestinians. Israel is digging its own grave.

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By cltx09, October 8, 2009 at 12:51 pm Link to this comment

There should be no pessimism, just a bottom line
understanding that the Jews who are in power, in Israel, DO
NOT WANT PEACE. If any of you believe other wise, you may
as well be pissing into the wind.

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By apolloguide, October 8, 2009 at 10:39 am Link to this comment

I agree with Avigdor Lieberman that this is a
blessing of riches to be reaped for Israeli’s when
one considers the expanded health insurance in the US
(to come soon) -which will further expand the market
for illegally obtained organs from wounded
Palestinian children shot by the IDF.

There must certainly be a program of increased
compensation for soldiers to provide further
incentive for those who wound for the purposes of
organ harvesting.  The prices will go up because the
schmear will involve more payoffs of airport
officials and customs inspectors. 

The spin-off market will perhaps someday leave the
Middle East and concentrate solely in the US where
the spoilage problem is less severe.  There are
plenty of poor people who are in desperate financial
agony and will be easily seduced by the organ brokers
to part with anything they have two of.  Of course
when under the anesthetic, the operation for a kidney
could easily turn into a heart or liver and often was
the primary reason for getting a poor person to agree
to part with a kidney.  You can always say “operator
error”.

This is a great way for people who have no human
worth to live beyond their natural lives by stealing
the hearts of those without money.  This is the
darkest of ages and Avigdor Lieberman is brave enough
to face it with a smile. It’s not surprising that he
got his start in Moldova where rabbinical organ
trafficking is canonical.  You have to admire someone
like Avigdor Lieberman who has/is chosen to lead his
people away from compassion and into the jaws of
perennial historical criticism and thorough lasting
eternal disgust and damnation. 

Even Hitler couldn’t do that.

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By Jean Gerard, October 8, 2009 at 10:07 am Link to this comment
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...there’s “no chance of a solution to core issues of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and that people need to learn “to live with it.”—according to Avigdor, FM.  (Note the big smile!)  Obviously he is having no trouble “living with it.”  Send him to Gaza for a month.  No, seriously, of course he’s not thinking of Gazans as “people.”  People are US, the “outside” world, the enablers, the innocent bystanders, the spectators at this Roman circus where abuse has been holding center stage for decades and still the Israelis soldier on.  Why?
Because they can.  Because Palestine is “there.” Because Israel is in the driver’s seat.  Because, because, because—and last of all because the world has not yet insisted upon the kind of settlement that will not steal more land, build more walls and impose more threats.

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