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Ear to the Ground

Grayson’s Comments Spark Congressional Flame War

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Posted on Oct 1, 2009
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Not a fan of the GOP: Florida Rep. Alan Grayson.

The partisan nonsense meter hit a high Thursday following a protracted bout of bickering in the House that heated up after Florida Rep. Alan Grayson made his views about his Republican colleagues eminently clear, but he’s not sorry, and he’s not apologizing—at least not yet. This does not please said colleagues, but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi isn’t in a hurry to appease them either.  —KA

The Washington Post

“If anybody’s going to apologize, everybody should apologize,” Pelosi said. “It’s time for us to talk about health care. Typically, the Republicans would like to use this as a distraction from the fact that they have no plan to take us forward.”

But Republicans have argued that Grayson’s comments were much worse than anything their members have said.

“His despicable remarks were not an impassioned speech gone awry. They were part of a premeditated effort that was followed up with another insulting barrage of insults and attacks on the floor of the United States Congress,” said National Republican Congressional Committee spokesman Ken Spain. “He is unfit to hold public office, and if he is unwilling to apologize for his appalling behavior, Speaker Pelosi should call him out on it.”

On Wednesday, Rep.  Tom Price (R-Ga.) prepared a privileged resolution declaring that the House disapproves of Grayson’s remarks, but he declined to introduce it, saying instead that he wanted to give Grayson time to apologize on his own. A Price spokesman said the resolution would not be introduced Thursday, either.

In addition to calling for an apology, Republicans are also hoping to capitalize on Grayson’s remarks at the ballot box. The NRCC has created a Web site called ... wait for it ... AlanDisGrayson.com that seeks to solicit campaign contributions for whomever emerges as the GOP nominee against Grayson in Florida’s 8th district in 2010. No big-name Republican candidate has emerged yet, though several are mulling the contest.

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By SteveL, October 4, 2009 at 11:19 am Link to this comment

Right on Congressman Grayson!  No point in being polite when the Republicans
are standing on everyone’s neck.

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By ardee, October 4, 2009 at 6:05 am Link to this comment

Ed Harges, October 2 at 1:37 pm #

I wish he’d be as honest about conservative Democrats as he is about
Republicans. Max Baucus, for example, is practically single-handedly sabotaging
health care, by colluding with Republicans to make sure the health insurance
industry gets everything on its wish list, and we get screwed. Why should we be
nice and polite to him?

A very important point, and ,considering the way democrats refuse to write a real health care reform bill, one that makes perfect sense.

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By bluegoggles, October 3, 2009 at 5:40 am Link to this comment
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I don’t have any health insurance. Can’t afford $1000 a month. Grayson gets this. Most of the rest of them are having fits that they are going to lose their cushy jobs and platinium health care along with it. We need more Graysons.

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By Frostedflakes, October 3, 2009 at 5:29 am Link to this comment

Grayson should be applauded.Republicans are despicable and Democrats are absolutely spineless. The two party system is the biggest lie existing.

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By C.Curtis.Dillon, October 3, 2009 at 2:08 am Link to this comment

With Grayson, the pit bull, as his running mate!

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By samosamo, October 2, 2009 at 7:55 pm Link to this comment

Grayson looks like a car dealer salesman and I tend to not trust him but by damn, he came real close to calling the repubs what they are and for that I can hold off judging the grayson book by its cover but as far as repubs or dems go, both have long waiting lines for being imprisoned for treason.

Think I will write in Senator Bernie Sanders for president in 2012.

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By rwmenser, October 2, 2009 at 5:18 pm Link to this comment

Isn’t this the ultimate truth?  Don’t get sick = more money retained by insurance companies.  Die quickly = more money retained by insurance companies.  Grayson is just taking the “executive” view of the situation.

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By samosamo, October 2, 2009 at 4:24 pm Link to this comment

No, the dems will never be as organized as the repubs with their neocon think tanks and all the dems will ever know is entrophy and disorganization laced with a healthy dose of corporate philandering thus setting up the slight difference in the dem and repub crime organizations.

Matter of fact the dems might could be accused of being the first time that the law of ‘all actions create an equal reaction’ is proved wrong, just confirm it with pelosi, reid and o.

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By Inherit The Wind, October 2, 2009 at 3:58 pm Link to this comment

Let’s get real:
“Sore-Loserman!” was the chant in 2000…the Dims are 9 years behind the Re-thugs in insults and catch phrases…kinda Neanderthal, too.

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By Inherit The Wind, October 2, 2009 at 3:55 pm Link to this comment

Virginia777, October 2 at 2:44 pm #

to Ed Harges:

Can’t we take first things first? FINALLY a Democrat is calling out the Republicans for their insane behavior.

If this message can even begin to get through, of course, it is the rotten Democrats who will be called out next.
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YES!  For once I agree with Ginny 777!  There’s ALWAYS a member of “The Contingent” to be a wet blanket on ANYTHING positive.

And the booby prize goes to Ed Harges.

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By diamond, October 2, 2009 at 1:55 pm Link to this comment

‘Knuckledragging Neanderthals’?  Ouch. It’s a whole new experience for the Republicans, being told what they are to their faces, in public. Grayson told it like it is as opposed to sneaking around behind the scenes giving off the record smears to the poodles of the mainstream media: the way political debate is usually handled in America. Everyone’s polite and nothing gets done and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Grayson is angry about this situation, and so he should be. It’s about time someone got angry about it.

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By Rodger Lemonde, October 2, 2009 at 12:33 pm Link to this comment
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OK break is over, back to work.
We all know nothing is sorrier than our elected
leaders.
Fuss at them to do what they were elected to do rather
than points of manners.

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By Virginia777, October 2, 2009 at 11:44 am Link to this comment

to Ed Harges:

Can’t we take first things first? FINALLY a Democrat is calling out the Republicans for their insane behavior.

If this message can even begin to get through, of course, it is the rotten Democrats who will be called out next.

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By Spiritgirl, October 2, 2009 at 11:40 am Link to this comment

While the Republicans are whining about an apology, where is their plan?  Reps. Grayson and Dennis Kucinich appear to be the only ones willing to speak to the real American interests!  They are my heroes!  Of course Americans have allowed ourselves to become dumbed down by the rhetoric of “the culture wars” which have absolutely NOTHING to do with public policy!

We have allowed and continue to allow politicians that are supposed to represent US to promote and protect Corporate Welfare at the expense of all of US!  We continue to vote these usurpers into position, and we feed at the trough of their lies!  We even participate by lying to ourselves about the people we are putting into office!  Since 1994 Congress has had a Republican majority, and what have we seen: rules and regulations unleashed, more Corporate crime - Enron, WorldComm, Adelphia - that are continuously portrayed as “isolated incidents”, more American jobs hemorrhaging overseas than at anytime previously, a greater divide between the haves and the have nots, 48 million uninsured and growing! Where is our morality - the government is supposed to help the “average American” over the Corporate interest!  They are Corporations for goodness sake, and their sole aim is to make money - it’s part of the definition - but they are not supposed to be enabled by and given welfare by our government!

Maybe we don’t deserve better treatment from Congress, maybe we have exactly the obstructionists that we deserve because we didn’t do our due diligence!  What I do realize is that Rep. Grayson should never apologize for speaking the truth, and maybe, just maybe, we can actually wake up from this slumber that far too many have been lulled into!

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By tman, October 2, 2009 at 11:12 am Link to this comment

The time has come for the people to take back this country from the corrupt and greedy politicians.

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By Louise, October 2, 2009 at 11:07 am Link to this comment

Howie Bledsoe,
“Uh…
Why didnt you guys mention exactly WHAT he said?
I can infer that it was with strong language, but it would be useful to mention his comments so that us less informed readers would have a better idea of whats up.”

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Using great big signs as visual aids Rep. Alan Grayson, (D. Florida) said he was going to show us the GOP plan for health care reform.

And he did.  smile

The plan is ... 
“DONT GET SICK”

But recognizing sometimes that’s not an option, the GOP has a follow-up plan.

“But if you do get sick, DIE QUICKLY”

Then he summed up by repeating, that’s the Republican plan. Don’t get sick! But if you do get sick, Die Quickly!

Responding to GOP outrage he said,

“Last night, I gave a speech and I’m not going to recount everything I said but after that speech, several republicans asked me to apologize. I would like to apologize. I would like to apologize and here’s why. According to this study, ‘health insurance and mortality in adults’ which was published two weeks, 44,000 Americans die every year because they have no health insurance. 44,789 Americans die every year according to the Harvard study. And you can see it by going to our website at grayson.house.gov. That is 10 times more than the number of Americans who have died in Iraq and who died in 9/11. But that was just once. This is every single year. That’s right. Every single year.”

But my favorite sentence in his response was this,

“Let’s remember we should care about people even after they’re born.”

Then he finished with,

“I call upon the Democratic members of the House, I call upon the republican members of the house, I call upon all of us to do our jobs for the sake of America, for the sake of those dying people and their families. I apologize to the dead and their families that we haven’t voted sooner to end this holocaust in America. I yield the rest of my time.”

Then the shit really hit the fan. So funny how quickly republicans jump to the defense of their own pathetic, little egos, when they don’t care one iota about defending the folks who are dying because they have no health care insurance. Gee whiz, they are so shallow, so devious and so down-right lazy they don’t even understand their efforts at self defense underscore the truth of Grayson’ words!

Some folks have taken offense to his use of the word holocaust, but I really do not see why!

The word holocaust defined:
An act of mass destruction and loss of life.

The decision to allow 44,000 Americans to die every year because they have no health insurance, is loss of life. And the fact that the lack of insurance is often because a wealthy and powerful force, like the Health Insurance Industry made the conscious and deliberate decision to take their health care insurance away from them, I think qualifies as leading to mass destruction. So Grayson owes NO-ONE an apology for calling it like it is!

Every single snigering, whining, money-grubbing politician complaining about this knows for a fact, all of the above are fact!

I intend to let Nancy and my guy know, I for one am delighted someone finally stood up to the obnoxious and repugnant GOP in the House. And over in the Senate, it’s always fun to watch Senator golden tan and his side-kick, Senator beautiful teeth, and their dim-witted, loyal pin-heads get their knickers in a twit.

They are outraged, outraged I tell you. Oh there’s something different. They twitter away while people die.

And, guys, don’t you dare ask Grayson to apologize. Don’t you dare. We the people are so happy. Finally a Democrat who isn’t afraid to call the do-nothing, no-gooders out for the phonies that they are!

In fact, could we please have a little more? It feels so good!

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By Ed Harges, October 2, 2009 at 10:37 am Link to this comment

I wish he’d be as honest about conservative Democrats as he is about
Republicans. Max Baucus, for example, is practically single-handedly sabotaging
health care, by colluding with Republicans to make sure the health insurance
industry gets everything on its wish list, and we get screwed. Why should we be
nice and polite to him?

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By Fat Freddy, October 2, 2009 at 9:45 am Link to this comment

I guess my foot is my mouth and my head is up my ass.

Thanks for the link RdV

I went through his YouTube page. This guy is an excellent litigator. He’s definitely making enemies on Wall Street and in the Federal Reserve by asking the right questions, demanding answers and making so-called experts tell the truth or look like idiots. Look at what he did to Bernanke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jjXCm3W4hA&feature=channel_page

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By truedigger3, October 2, 2009 at 8:19 am Link to this comment

Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats wants a TRUE health care reform.
It seems Rep. Alan Grayson is new in town and he doesn’t know how the game is played in Washington DC or maybe, he is just playing dumb.!!
The health care “reform” bill was already written few months ago by the insurance/pharma/medical industrial complex, and that bill will finally pass which will keep the status quo with minor cosmetic modifications and will give the insuranc/pharma companies several millions new customers who are forced or subsdised to join by that bill which is another giveaway to big business from our dear politicians.
What is going on right now is nothing but a make-believe, bullshitting theatrical show that is jointly produced by both the Republicans and the Democrats including Obama.

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By ender, October 2, 2009 at 7:48 am Link to this comment

His comments were well articulated and he was straight forward in his reply to why this was different than calling the standing US President a liar in from of 40,000,000 viewers.  This man is what the Democrats need.  I am a Floridian and will contribute to his future campaigns.  Now if our tired old hack Senator Bill Nelson will remember that he is also a Democrat I could be proud of this state again.

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By Virginia777, October 2, 2009 at 7:41 am Link to this comment

and whats this about Grayson “sparking” a flame war?

The Repubs have been flaming for a long time now,

they are just (finally) getting some of their own medicine!

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By Virginia777, October 2, 2009 at 7:36 am Link to this comment

Grayson is my new hero! he is exactly what we need in a Democrat right now.

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By Ouroborus, October 2, 2009 at 7:32 am Link to this comment

tomack, October 2 at 10:16 am #

To be abasolutelyfuckingclear; Grayson was an adult
being too kind to only call them “knuckledraggers”.

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By Ouroborus, October 2, 2009 at 7:19 am Link to this comment

tomack, October 2 at 10:16 am #

Fortunately? far from the loony bin; cheers!

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By tomack, October 2, 2009 at 7:16 am Link to this comment

To Ouroborus,

I don’t know where “here” is, but tonight (Friday) you can live vicariously because I will hoist a few for the Sane among us—wherever they may be.

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By RdV, October 2, 2009 at 6:38 am Link to this comment

This guy is great and one of the few that can be said about.
People should know exactly who it is they are hassling over petty issues.
Check him out in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqM2tFOxLQ&feature=channel

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By Ouroborus, October 2, 2009 at 6:38 am Link to this comment

tomack, October 2 at 9:00 am #
To Ouroborus’ question, How do the few sane people left
there bear it? With copious amounts of one mind
altering substance or another.
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I envy you, here it’s way too illegal or I’d join you.

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By Jim Yell, October 2, 2009 at 6:35 am Link to this comment
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Thanks, finally a Democrat who isn’t afraid to speak up for the people who put him in office, the voters and citizens, not the corporate contributors.

As far as anything that he might have said to hurt Republican feelings—-ah, ah, ah. Republicans seem to have forgotten the many dirty things they have said about war heros and many others. Of course being the cowards they are the Repbulicans usually arrange to have some blowhard like Rush to do the cat call for them. Republicans are another word for hypocrits and thugs.

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By tomack, October 2, 2009 at 6:00 am Link to this comment

To Ouroborus’ question, How do the few sane people left there bear it? With copious amounts of one mind altering substance or another.

That said, Grayson’s remarks were not childish as some have said, only the response was.

I hope he goes on nailing them. He counters their lies, distortions, and obfuscation with facts and honesty. Can’t beat that. If we had 100 more just like him we would be in the stars by now.

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By Alejandro, October 2, 2009 at 5:38 am Link to this comment
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“Bout time” is all I can say. Perhaps now the rest of the weasels in the Democratic majority will get a spine and man-up to do what they were sent to Washington to do. (Represent the people)

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By Howie Bledsoe, October 2, 2009 at 5:32 am Link to this comment
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Uh…
Why didnt you guys mention exactly WHAT he said?
I can infer that it was with strong language, but it would be useful to mention his comments so that us less informed readers would have a better idea of whats up.

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By Ouroborus, October 2, 2009 at 5:28 am Link to this comment

Oh for Christ’s sake; are there any adults running this
fucking country? Just look at what you morons elected
to run this damn country. It’s chaos! I can’t believe
we’ve made it this far without blowing the fuck out of
ourselves and the world! Dems and Repubs are children
trying to spell god without all of the letters! Get a
grip! I’m not even in the U.S.; how the hell do the few
sane people left there bear it? The news/media is ridiculous!

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By Fat Freddy, October 2, 2009 at 4:52 am Link to this comment

Could Grayson just be playing to his constituency? Let’s see. He represents Florida. Many people move to Florida to retire die. He says, “the republicans want you to die quickly”.

You decide.

ChaoticGood,

I’ll agree with part of your comment. I don’t agree with what you said about politicians being a reflection of us. Politicians are politicians, and have been since the dawn of civilization. However,

corporate devils are us and the people who buy their stock and watch the market fluctuations are us.

is dead on, and I would add, “buy their goods and services”. Seriously. Of the 8,195 banks in the United States, nearly 8,000 are community banks. But yet, only four have 40% of all deposits, and that number continues to increase. WTF is wrong with people? Who, in their right fucking mind, would open an account at BoA? When I have to cash a check at Wachovia (Wells Fargo), I spit on the ground just before I walk through the door, literally.

Sure, there’s a lot of unfair competitive advantage that the big, over leveraged banks have. Ally Bank (GMAC) took TARP money and used it to offer a no penalty, high yield CD. How many people actually know that? How many people even know that Ally Bank is GMAC?

Maybe the conservatives were on to something 25 years ago, when they were telling people to “buy American”. The big banks and big corporations can not operate on government favors alone. They need consumers. Consumers can choose where they spend and invest their money.


Now that I have gone completely off topic…

Anyway, it is good to at least see a Democrat with a backbone (Grayson). Let’s hope he (and Pelosi) doesn’t cave in to the asshole Republican demands of an apology.

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By TheRealFish, October 2, 2009 at 4:50 am Link to this comment

Um… Love the title. Because Grayson used heated rhetoric to actually sum up an accurate picture of Rethug obstructionism, HE’s the one sparking a flame war?

Right.

Meaning: Three months of Rethugs using the exact same kind of rhetoric from the well of Congress to inaccurately mis-characterize the nature of efforts to reign-in corporatist greed that has turned inevitable illness into a commodity for raising capital ISN’T responsible for a flame war? Because ONE Democrat chose to use the same type of lingo?

Since when does an impassioned response to the relentless and fact-free assault on senses and sensibilities become the CAUSE for the conflict?

It’s like blaming the rape victim or abused woman because she finally struck back against her attacker or relentless abuser for starting the attack or the abuse.

Okay. So maybe using the single term “holocaust” was ill considered. Maybe it should be reserved for referring to the genocide of somewhere around 12 million during WWII. Would there have been such a reaction if he had branded their actions as “witch hunt”—referring back to the various Christian inquisitions across several hundred years that resulted in an estimated 17 million deaths of women and homosexuals by torture and burning-at-the-stake?

Such are the dangers of heated rhetoric. However, everything else he has said painted an accurate picture of the results of their actions.

It’s about time. Now if only Harry Reid would feel a similar passion in the face of their greed-based inhumanity.

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By doublestandards/glasshouses, October 2, 2009 at 3:41 am Link to this comment
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For years republicans have been saying things like
terrorists love democrats and want them to win
elections.  Now the democrats have a stand up guy who
doesn’t take it anymore and the msm is confused.

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By Tim Kelly, October 2, 2009 at 3:28 am Link to this comment
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While the Democrats will no doubt force Grayson to resign for shining a light on the Republicans, I hope Grayson sticks to his statements.  Perhaps he could run for President in 2012.

As for the people getting what they deserve, recall Josef Stalin’s statement:

“The voters decide nothing.  Those that count the vote decide everything.”

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By Inherit The Wind, October 2, 2009 at 3:27 am Link to this comment

Here’s what I say to the hypocritical Re-thugs who are “outraged” at Alan Grayson:

Cong. Joe Wilson interrupting THE PRESIDENT’s speech, shouting “YOU LIE!”

They are knuckle-draggers.  John Kyl said he doesn’t need maternity care.  They want the system with 50 million Americans uninsured to remain unchanged.  They want the FDA to loosen even further new drug testing for Big Pharma.

WHAT did Grayson say that isn’t true?

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By ardee, October 2, 2009 at 2:59 am Link to this comment

I first heard this Congressman’s comments on the Rachel Maddow show and it caused me to grin from ear to ear. She interviewed him and I found a refreshingly honest and straightforward appearing politico, what a rare occurrence!

As to:
ChaoticGood, October 2 at 1:24 am #

I predict you won’t like what I have to say….

Our politicians are reflections of us.

Au Contraire, mon frere, I do like what you say. I believe we get the type of government we deserve. I do not believe the American people are as dishonest, elitist, or self serving as all that but it is the disinterest of far too many and the gullibility of many others that allows our elected representatives to utterly fail to actually represent us.

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By C.Curtis.Dillon, October 2, 2009 at 1:56 am Link to this comment

First: a bit of fight from the passive Dems!  I like this guy just because he is willing to be “in your face” with the Repubs.  Good theater at the very least.

Second: ChaoticGood is, unfortunately, right.  We get what we deserve.  Politicians are a reflection of our own corruption and neglect.  They are mostly slick Willies who look good on camera and can give a decent speech.  But as human beings, they (and we) are failures.  Anyone who is surprised by what is happening in Washington is either naive or brain dead.

This is something I have been thinking about a lot lately.  I see human failure every day here in Eastern Europe and it deeply offends me.  Human greed is rampant in our world and this will ultimately be the end of us.  We have the power to change our country and our world but we need to shake off the complacency and stand up.  I wonder when that will happen.

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By ThomasG, October 2, 2009 at 12:18 am Link to this comment

Stand up for Alan Grayson, who seems to be the only Congressman, besides Dennis Kucinich, aware of all the harm the Republicans have done to our country.

The Right-Wing EXTREMIST Fascist Conservative Republican Movement in the United States from the time of Goldwater through Reagan, Bush I and Bush II destroyed the U.S. Economy and bankrupted the U.S. as a nation; costing tens of trillions of dollars to clean up the conservative mess from Smash and Grab EXTREMIST Conservative Republican governance.

Where is the sense of “moral outrage and indignation” for what Right-Wing EXTREMIST Conservative governance has done to destroy the U.S. Economy and bankrupt the U.S. as a Nation by way of borrow and spend governance?

The Conservative Republicans have made much of “moral hazard” with regard to poor uneducated people and the Common Population getting any socialized return from the government for the socialized collection of taxes that the government forces everyone to pay; Right-Wing Conservative Republicans are outraged because what the Common Population gets back from what is taken from them in socialized tax collection diminishes what Conservatives can root out of the trough of government for themselves.

Where is the sense of moral outrage with regard to “moral hazard”, as regards the Conservative Republicans and Corporate Communism?

Privatized Capitalism is dependent upon socialized responsibility for privatized benefit and has been from the very beginning of its origins in Britain and it is morally outrageous that conservatives of privatized Capitalism complain and decry socialism and communism continually for the many, while being dependent upon socialized and communized resources for Privatized Capitalism’s very existence.

As a result of the current collapse of the U.S. Economy, Privatized Capitalism has received tens of trillions of dollars of socialized and communized support at the expense of all of the people of the United States and their progeny for generations yet to come.

Where is the sense of “moral outrage” from the 70% MAJORITY Common Population of the United States that were denied and continue to be denied even marginal benefit and health care from the U.S. Government, while Corporate Communism and Conservative Governance institutionalizes “moral hazard” as a life line to support Privatized Capitalism for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many.

Conservatives raiding the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve for tens of TRILLIONS of dollars to maintain the value of their privatized capital at the expense of socialized and communal resources of every man, woman, and child that is alive in the United States today and their progeny, who will live for the next ten generations is more than sufficient for mass demonstrations of rage and indignation against the Conservative Governance that inflicted these burdens on the mass population of the American people for their own greedy self-serving benefit.

This type of “moral hazard”, the so called “economic cycle”, is an integral part of privatized Capitalism and if it is ever to end, as a “moral hazard” to the population of the United States as a whole, Privatized Capitalism is going to have to be replaced by Socialized Capitalism, so that Privatized Capitalism cannot continue to use socialized resources for privatized benefit, so that the current expenditure of tens of trillions of dollars of socialized resources for privatized benefit will be the last.

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By Mike, October 2, 2009 at 12:12 am Link to this comment
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Grayson is one of the few real deals in Congress. Not only is he calling it as he sees it on the health care issue, but he’s pushing to audit the Federal Reserve, which, by propping up big banks that should be gutted by now, is sending us down a very scary path.

Grayson’s sparring with FED officials at hearings makes for very entertaining viewing. Do a Youtube search for proof.

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By LostHills, October 1, 2009 at 11:13 pm Link to this comment

“Divide and conquer.”
Julius Caesar

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By Ouroborus, October 1, 2009 at 11:04 pm Link to this comment

stcfarms, October 2 at 12:14 am #
YES!!!!!

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By Ouroborus, October 1, 2009 at 11:03 pm Link to this comment

YES!!!!!

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By ChaoticGood, October 1, 2009 at 10:24 pm Link to this comment

I predict you won’t like what I have to say….

Our politicians are reflections of us.  They are us, bloated by greed and power.  They are us, who sold their souls to the corporate devils.  The corporate devils are us and the people who buy their stock and watch the market fluctuations are us.

We want these politicians to be good and pure and care about us, but they are us and we don’t care about anybody but ourselves and neither do they.

Passing all the laws and reforms that you can imagine will not change a thing because until we change there will be no change.

You must become the change you want in this world.

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By G.Anderson, October 1, 2009 at 9:42 pm Link to this comment

Why apologize for the truth? The republican party looted this country, and gave the corporations all the tools to gut it.

Now they’re outraged that someone has the nerve to say the truth aloud.

At least this man has backbone enough to confront them, which should have been done right from the beginning.

Daily they spew out far worse, through Limbaugh, and Beck and Hannity.

The truth hurts.

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By stcfarms, October 1, 2009 at 9:14 pm Link to this comment

I agree whole heartedly, you could have added the paragraph below and you
would have named all of the crooks.

Democrats are a bunch of miscreants and demagogues who are a disgrace to
the position they hold. They have nothing of value for the people since before
the time of Bill Clinton. There must be a Democrat exception somewhere but
since move on took over the party, I don’t know where. They are a disgusting
lot who just get worse with age.

“You can always spot an honest politician, six feet above his
head is a large granite stone with his name on it”

By ocjim, October 1 at 11:56 pm #

Republicans are a bunch of miscreants and demagogues who are a disgrace to
the position they hold. They have nothing of value for the people since before
the time of Newt Gingrich. There must be a Republican exception somewhere
but since the neocons took over the party, I don’t know where. They are a
disgusting lot who just get worse with age.

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By ocjim, October 1, 2009 at 8:56 pm Link to this comment

Republicans are a bunch of miscreants and demagogues who are a disgrace to the position they hold. They have nothing of value for the people since before the time of Newt Gingrich. There must be a Republican exception somewhere but since the neocons took over the party, I don’t know where. They are a disgusting lot who just get worse with age.

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