that’s right. today you can find very easy an alternative to quit taking drugs. the Drug Rehabilitation Center is a place where you find professional help, guide and understanding. you only have to want this.

Here we go again with the “addiciton is a disease ” model..as someone who has worked with “addicts” alot of her life, I know that this is bullshit and AA is just a substitute for drugs.

The main reason it is pushed here in the uS, it that it is free, and, the second or third time around or so(after doing your insurance industry appointed 28 days), the insurance industry can dump you for a “pre-existing condition”. It is in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, why?? So insurance will cover it! Its a “disease”!!! Bullshit.

Everyone should be able to make their own decision about drugs. AA is a very dangerous “detox” for heron or oxy. But who cares right? Let them die in the street—its free.

It is NOT true that once you are addicted to opiates, you “have to take something”, either. Ive been off all pain meds for almost 5 yrs.
Its just takes a little guts and pain tolerance.

tony has very good points.

I do think that there are uses for morphine (ie fentanyl) (certainly for things like bone cancer—and alot of other things)but there is no reaosn for Oxycontin to exist. It is just oxycone in an expensive tim e release shell. There are time release patches, etc.But, Purdue made $2 billion off of the damn thing and only got fined $500 million for off-label prescribing without permission of FDA—so its money in the bank!!!!!!!!!!

Three are shitty drs around here , who couldnt get pts any other way who have made small fortunres out of this trashy drug People having seizures and throwing u[ and passing out in the waiting room….. Roaches all over the wall.

Someone should sue them, but, who believes someone who was ‘high”?

All more of the medical industrial complex. And pot is still illegal—it boggles the mind….

Just thought I’d throw this out there. Real heroin and oxy addiction treatment. This treatment is only available from this doctor, in the US.

http://addictionmedicinepractice.com/

http://www.lancegooberman.com/

http://www.pellettechnologies.com/index.htm

He was also the doctor that brought rapid detox to the US from Europe. He faced many lawsuits. But his treatments are FDA approved.

“Gateway Drugs” come from Parents medicine Cabinets and docs who get ‘incentives’ and Kick backs.
Stealing a Valium was as simple as liftin ga cigarette or a beer or a few Shots out of one of their liquor bottles. Not only convenient- but Free.
Of course it seems some ‘soccor moms’ are continuing to do the same thing with their kids ADHD meds- the New “Mothers Lil’ Helpers”.
So I laugh when ever I hear Pot is a ‘gateway Drug’- because in reality the tendency to use drugs begins long before the exposure to the illicit drug world- you have to go looking for Street drugs. There are no ‘pushers’ only Dealers. No one dealing drugs is going to take the risk of luring kids into buying their drugs and getting busted.
This is the Deluded fantasy of Parents who don’t want to take responsiblity for being their inital ‘suppliers’ along with claiming their ‘sweet child’ was seduced by druggies or ‘bad influence’ peers.
And when it comes to seeking Drug to solve a problem it is far more an trait of Parent age people. ‘Gee my leg tingles- get a med’, “I can’t keep it up- Get an RX”, ‘I can’t quit smoking-get a pill and a patch’, “I sometimes feel down or stressed- get a Happy pill or atleast one to numb the emotion”.
The ‘Drug Culture’ Begins with the pushers on TV, leads to the ‘connection’ at Docs office and then to the supplier at the Pharmacy.

BTW, Tony, I think your post is really insightful. 

Yeah, the use of self-administered drugs reflects the obvious need for mood alteration, as well as a bit of excitement/adventure in our lives.  Why else would we take such risks and spend so much money to acquire them?  Meanwhile, booze is officially sanctioned - heck, it’s like a guy’s a total dork if he doesn’t care to swill beer while watching Sunday football! I don’t need to enumerate the many dangers of the officially sanctioned drugs (booze and tobacco). 

What gets me is that there are plenty of neuropharmacologists or whatever who would jump at the chance to do the research we need, if funding were available and restrictions lifted.  Think about the benefits of a formulation that would prevent the tolerance effect with opiates?  Totally doable - from what I understand, very promising leads already exist for this.

And not just for reduction of harm from existing drugs, but for new, better, safer ones?  Can you imagine the benefits of something that prevents the desirable effects of alcohol, without the toxicity and tendency toward “bad” behaviors?  Totally doable!  In fact, it may already exist in the form of GHB, a ‘90’s era club drug.  It was banned after numerous cases of date rape and overdoses.  Sounded bad, but really just a matter of regulation.  Alcohol can kill you too, which would happen too often if it were a tasteless liquid like GHB. With careful packaging, not so much.

For that matter, with the stuff they do these days, they could probably produce drugs with a self-contained blocking effect, triggered under appropriate circumstances.

Same thing with stimulants - some people simply need them to be happy and productive.  ADHD is a myth - adderal is practically identical to meth! Sure, kids get better at schoolwork - they’re on speed!  They hand out dexies to military pilots before long missions. 

All these antidepressants - they are supposed to adjust your brain chemistry, but they work slowly and poorly, if at all.  Why prescribe them, when a line of coke would do a much better job in five minutes flat?  All we need is to reformulate our favorite drugs so that they’re safer physiologically.  And, I was going to say, “less habit forming” - but if they’re safe, who cares if it becomes a habit?

srhammett

For clarification, the second part of my comment was not directed to you, rather the author of the post.

Apologies.

srhammett

I was under the impression that there is a generic equivalent. A friend of mine had them. In fact, he had a history of drug abuse before his accident. Yes, he would crush them and inject them. He told me, the problem is that the generics have a gelatin filler which is not water soluble. The gelatin clogs the works. However, there is a “process” to filter out the gelatin. He’s now on Methadone for his pain management.

In fact, Methadone is a very effective pain management alternative. But as of Jan 1 2008, the 40mg soluble diskets are only available at clinics and hospitals (no prescriptions). Why? Methadone is 100% synthetic and no opium is used in its manufacture. Methadone is a fraction of the cost of most oxys. The only down side to Methadone is the interaction with benzos (Valium, Xanax, etc.). Methadone has an extended release effect. There is no euphoric effect.
Again, why? Beats me. Ask the DEA.

abusers of prescription opiates such as OxyContin, Percocet, and Vicodin eventually begin abusing heroin because it is typically cheaper and easier to obtain, their doctors cut their dosage due to strict DEA regulations

FIFY

“Gateway drug” is a fallacious argument on many levels. An addict is an addict whether its oxys, heroin, coke, meth, alcohol, whatever. Drug of choice (DOC) is irrelevant.
Go to a fucking AA meeting.

Drugs are a good way to forget you’re being exploited by the predatory capitalists who own us all.  Wage slaves, and happy to be so.

The opiates are some of the best therapeutic drugs out there, though a poor choice for recreational use, at least if used habitually.

I don’t take oxy anymore because there is no generic form, which makes it too expensive.  I take equivalent quantities of fentanyl and morphine.  I’m a legit pain patient.  Tolerance can be a problem, but I believe most pain users eventually find a maintenance level that gives them satisfactory coverage.  Some need more than others; I need what some would consider an enormous amount, but fortunately I can get it, and my dosages have been level for years now.

These drugs gave me back a good quality of life after years of true suffering.  With the amount I take - which is huge, probably enough to kill several people -  you’d expect I’d look and act like a junky - and yet you could never tell.  I don’t even notice it much, except that (a) it eliminates most of my pain, and (b) I get sleepy at times.  I realize that it’s effect can be pleasant for new users, but it’s a mild drug, plain and simple.  It definitely does not give me any kind of high any more.

Yes, there’s tolerance, addiction and overdoses to be concerned with.  All of these could be dealt with through research (many promising remedies for tolerance exist), sane public policy directed toward harm reduction, and education.  I can’t get into this at length at the moment, but I feel that existent public policies are incredibly foolish and cruel.

The harassment of doctors has got to stop.  I hate the fact that I can’t always speak freely to my docs about how I use these drugs, for fear I’ll be deemed to be exhibiting “drug-seeking behavior”, and risk losing my supply.  I fear a takeover of the system by the radical right that could result in a further crackdown.

They did that years ago—people just scrape it off. I used to take the crap, (by Rx, by a very rich dr, but the only pain dr who would take Medicaid!)had to kick it with a friend…no hospital detox for you, after youvew hjelped buy the dr a Porsche and a 20 yr old girlfriend.!! lol

As long as Purdue Pharma is giving Congress plenty of money, nothing will happen. They had a hearing and a preacher in Ky said that people were dying everyday—Congress sniffled and let it go.There is no advantage to OxyContin over other codeine basaed painkillers—except cost,($$ for the pharmaceutical industrial complex) and many are on Medicaid, so enjoy your tax money going to kill people and Congressional imcumbency protection.

Prohibition didnt work with alcohol and it doesnt work with drugs…if people want treatment they should get it free.

Who is worse the FDA, or the drug manufacturer?

Since the FDA has no credibility, and since they are totally corupt, how is that any different than the drug manufacturer?

Why don’t we just stop kidding ourselves, and go ahead and legalize Heroin?

Oxy should have never been approved and they know it.