At the UN, Obama came out with beginning Peace Talks while Israel was continuing its ethnic cleansing, not even the US puppet Abbas could accept.  He said the US was in favor of a two state solution while continuing to effectively finance the settlers.

I wonder how long progs will continue to tolerate his duplicity.

Not surprising in light of a history of agreements Israelis have signed on to, only to ignore later.

The early agreements stipulated, among other settlement agreements, that Israel was to be a settlement for Jews, not the State of Israel, and we know how long that lasted. 

Secondly, the number of foreign emigres admitted to the Jewish settlement in Palestine was limited to about 1,000/year. That lasted for maybe the first year after which the Israelis nullified that part of the agreement they had signed opening the land to all takers.

It’s reasonable to wonder even if Obama pulls off a ‘final’ solution/agreement to the Palestinian/Israeli problem, just how long its conditions will be honored.

Folktruther, September 23 at 12:56 am #

Ardee, I see that you are as racist as my own relatives, who at least spare me the Pollyansh bullshit.  Israelis need Palestinians as workers and consumers, eh?

So its the world against Folktruther, heh? It would be so much easier if you would engage your brain prior to reading the efforts of another here. What you diminish as “consumers” is the acceptance of Palestinians as a vital part of the community, are you really as dumb as all this?

Of course, then you might actually get the gist of what one was trying to say. Why on earth do you believe your intolerance and bias earns you a pass?

Much of the American-Jewish people lack a simple moral sense.  and they make up about a third of the settlers. Of course they don’t usally have 8 kids, these probably being blackhat influence dingbats.

Filipinos come quick, all black men have large genitalia, keep it up, FT, and you were saying I AM BIGOTED?

And a political sense as well.  Violence never settled anything, eh? The Palestinians have no alternative to Israeli violence.  What the Palestinians need are anti-tank and anti-air missles.

An article that notes much of the sentiment of Israelis is the result of retaliatory strikes by militant Palestinians and you suggest further such as a means of achieving peace…...What the Palestinians need is PEACE, what the Israelis need is to be stopped from further atrocities, what you need is an ability to get your head out of your own asshole (figuratively speaking of course) and understand the complexities and nuances involved as well as the fact that opposition to your unique political views doesn’t signal opposition to your “cause”, whatever that cause may be.

You are a major disappointment in your unreasoning and unreasonable dis-allowance of any weight to any opinion not your own .Further, you have become increasingly strident and unrealistic, as well as caustic of late…Personal problems perhaps?

The settlers on stolen Palestinian owned land are creating a future problem for themselves and their children. They will eventually be a minority amongst the Arabs with all the consequences that will eventually bring. These are chickens that will come home to roost. The following is from Israel, government statistics.

“The survey, commissioned by the Jewish People Policy and Planning Institute, predicts that by 2020 there will be 6.3 million Jews and close to 2 million Arabs in Israel, with another 5.6 million Arabs in the Palestinian territories. Those figures, it says, have serious implications for Israeli” policy.

Ardee, I see that you are as racist as my own relatives, who at least spare me the Pollyansh bullshit.  Israelis need Palestinians as workers and consumers, eh?

Much of the American-Jewish people lack a simple moral sense.  and they make up about a third of the settlers. Of course they don’t usally have 8 kids, these probably being blackhat influence dingbats.

And a political sense as well.  Violence never settled anything, eh? The Palestinians have no alternative to Israeli violence.  What the Palestinians need are anti-tank and anti-air missles.

Gee,Jim Bob, I bet you’re the wit of your middle school class…..

Quite an article, and an interesting glimpse into the thought processes of the “settlers” as well.

With the West Bank in Israel’s hands for 42 years, many middle-of-the-road Israelis see little reason not to move there – particularly to long-established, larger settlements, or those close to the Green Line.

But why take the risk of investing in a home on disputed territory? Among other reasons, settlers are bearish on the prospects of the peace process leading anywhere soon – if ever.

In other words these folks seem ignorant of the plight of the people whose land they usurp. Having gotten away with trespassing for so many decades now they feel they now “own” the land. Sad really.

What’s more, says Ephraim Yaar, a pollster and analyst at Tel Aviv University, Israelis feel less certain about whether pulling out of the territory brings peace – particularly after the withdrawal from Gaza in 2005, followed by a rain of low-tech Palestinian rockets on southern Israel.

“[T]his had a profound effect, including on those on the Israeli left. There is a hardening of the position of Israelis, undoubtedly related to what happened in Gaza,” Professor Yaar says. And yet, when questioned about the bigger picture, the majority of Israelis, he notes, support a two-state solution, along with the concomitant expectations of settlement evacuations. “Broadly, the Israeli public would be willing to evacuate all the settlements that are outside a major block, provided the Palestinians would reciprocate.”

Thus the militant Palestinians, responding to the astonishing brutality of the IDF, dare to retaliate thus negating any sense of responsibility by the Israelis to make things right. Of course violence never solves anything, regardless of which side perpetrates it.

Netanyahu attributes most of the increase to “natural growth” – an increase due to the high birthrates among existing residents.

“We don’t have enough houses to provide for natural growth,” he said in a meeting earlier this month with foreign reporters. This lack of housing, he said, amounted to a “quiet expulsion” of young people who have to leave the settlements because they can’t find houses there.

A similar scenario to what the white man did to the native American population here, and just as horrific to me. I am , and always have been, an opponent of the two state solution , as crazy as that position might seem. As one reads the comments of these settlers, who think themselves to be middle of the road and not extremist, who fail utterly to see that the Palestinians are actual human beings with actual rights one despairs of a two state solution being any solution whatever.

Rather I think that the Israelis need the Palestinians as workers and as consumers, and, just as we see here with our own racial problems, time will resolve all. You can say “Cockeyed Optimist ” now.

You bet your booty it has to do with low cost.  What else?