Ohhh hellllooo.  Way…elll Folksytroother, so you want to start the squabbling again?  Okay.  I thought you had retreated to your hole.  But you have slithered out again.  You feel really soooo good when you take a strike at me.  Right?  How soothing is it Folksybaby?  Everyone should know how much you get off on it.  It’s degenerate the way you go after me.  A jaundiced mind makes a guy say a lot of grubby things.  Nothing ever important, just grubby.  Folktruther, the original TD Flamer.  Did you know it is a personality disorder?  Here check this out, cause we’ve got your number, sweetie. http://amasci.com/weird/flamer.html

the torture of High-Value prisoners is apparently going to carried out more humanely by Obama.  The the torture of others in US prisons around the world will apparently continue to be carried out in the Bushite way.  Against the Geneva conventions, part of US law, and the morality of decency and civlization as the US sinks into barbarism.

Shenonymous, your exhortation to ‘think clearly’ is hilarious, coming from you.  You are developing a real sense of human, even if the men, women and children being tortured can’t appreciate it.

Good morning.

What does it mean to be true to the founding principles of America?  To say “be
true to the founding principles” is an a dim instruction. 

Indictment, prosecution are instruments to carry out the law.  Even though a
suit may be filed, one person’s belief whether a law is just or not is not enough
to prosecute within the scope of a society.  Usually, in a society ruled by laws,
the society, through a jury of peers, decides if a law is just.

It is not cast in concrete anywhere that “the only way that American can survive
is if it finds its purpose in the world again.”  That statement has no real
meaning, America’s purpose has never been clearly defined and has always
been feeling its way.  There is no compass.

While a rule of law government provides for a civil and licit society, that is not
the only reason America is alive in the hearts of men.  There are other aspects
such as free enterprise, freedoms of speech (meaning one may extol or criticize
any aspect of this country, its people as a whole or individually), freedom of
religion or non-religion (to practice any religion one chooses or not to practice
a religion at all).  Other freedoms are expressed explicitly in the Bill of Rights
that lights the fire for admiration of America.  According to, yes, the China View
online news, as of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as
permanent residents than any other country in the world in 2009, and a report
from Migration Information Source says the number of immigrants in 2006
totaled 37.5 million or 12.5 percent of the world population (I repeat, the world
population).  Question:  If the US is hated so much, why these reports?

The word care only as significance if attached to something specific to “care”
about. If you truly care about America, get an education and learn how to think
clearly.  Learn to care about what it means to think for yourself.

If you truly care about America, you must be true to its founding principles.  America is a nation ruled by laws, not by men.  The notion that nobody is above the law is the bedrock that gives credibility to our justice system.

Whether or not you believe that Bush was a good president or not, the evidence is mounting that he or his associates broke the law.

Our system demands investigation, no matter who it hurts.  If Republicans are going to fall because of crimes, then Republicans must “man up” and take the heat.  If Democrats fall then so be it.  This is beyond party politics and justice must be served.

It does not matter if you think that torture is justified or not.  If at the time a particular action was defined as illegal torture, then that is against the law, plain and simple.

The only way that America can survive is if it finds its “purpose” in the world again.  It must stand as a beacon of freedom once again.  It must return to the “rule of Law”.  Otherwise, America is no longer alive in the hearts of men and is worthless.

Torture is nothing new for humanity.  The absolute worst and ugliest treatment of
humans has been committed in the name of various things.  Is humankind finally
transforming from beast to beauty? Is there a ray of hope?  When in the history of
the world has it ever been even discussed how to treat prisoners humanely?  I
think this is a harbinger of an advanced change that is coming to human beings.