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Obama Accused of Promoting Ethnic Cleansing

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Some pro-Israel groups in the U.S. are accusing President Obama of promoting the ethnic cleansing of Jews because he had the audacity to call—alongside large numbers of other politicians, even many in Israel—for a halt to Israeli settlement expansion on Palestinian land.  —J.C.

The Guardian:

Hardline pro-Israel groups in the US have been confronting President Barack Obama’s demands for a halt to settlement expansion by accusing him of promoting the ethnic cleansing of Jews and jeopardising Israel’s security.

Members of Congress allied with Israel and powerful lobby groups in Washington are also trying to shift the focus of administration policy from the Jewish settlements, arguing they are not an obstacle to peace, to demands for Arab governments to recognise Israel.

The strategy, intertwined with a similar campaign by Israeli politicians and officials, has taken on added urgency because of Obama’s demands, first laid down during a testy meeting in May with the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, that Israel freeze all settlement construction in the West Bank.

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By Frank, August 26, 2009 at 4:58 pm Link to this comment

“Further, military and civilian Iraqis were driven from Kuwait….  Again,
population transfers on territory taken in war is a violation of international
law.”

It was Kuwait territory before after the war, so it wasn’t territory “taken” by Kuwait, and the illegal Iraqi immigrants (military and civilian) were sent packing.

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By Frank, August 26, 2009 at 4:57 pm Link to this comment

“Further, military and civilian Iraqis were driven from Kuwait….  Again,
population transfers on territory taken in war is a violation of international
law.”

It was Kuwait territory before after the war, so it wasn’t territory “taken” by
Kuwait, and the illegal Iraqi immigrants (military and civilian) were sent packing.

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By Frank, August 26, 2009 at 4:45 pm Link to this comment

Truth-versus-Falsehood, how ironic your name is, and how naively ignorant of
history you seem to be.

It’s very telling that you say one of Hitler’s crimes against the Palestinians was
“not finishing the work he started” against the jews. Very telling, indeed.

The Palestinian leadership of the WW2 era were good pals with the 3rd Reich
and were as complicit with the mass extermination of Jews as the Nazis
themselves.  Innocent victims indeed.

Do you know who Muhammed Amin al-Husseini was?  He was the the Grand
Mufti of Jerusalem, leader of Palestinians during WW2. He was also a good
friend of the Nazis, and a frequent honored guest of the Third Reich. He
personally lobbied the Reich on more than one occasion to prevent them from
releasing jews in prisoner exchanges, including groups of jewish children,
saying he preferred that they all be killed rather than risk them emigrating to
Palestine.  He was also openly supportive of the slaughter of jews in
Yugoslavia, publicly encouraging Muslims to join SS units to aid the Germans in
wiping out the jews there.

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_during_ww2.php

But this is nothing special. Many of the muslim nations and leaders were
heavily involved with the Nazis during WW2, encouraging them in their
slaughter of the jews, and offering them safe haven after the war. The idea that
the Palestinians are somehow innocent victims of Hitler is laughably naive.
Educate yourself, son, and stop drinking the leftist koolaid.

All the more humorous is that you think this Scots-Irish atheist is a zionist,
just because I’m not naive enough to fall for the whitewash job all you Islamist
fanboys try to pull on Palestinian history.

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By PatrickHenry, August 26, 2009 at 3:33 am Link to this comment

Dear jmr,

I’m sure you and Steny will be safe there.

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By jmr, August 25, 2009 at 9:21 pm Link to this comment

Dear PatrickHenry,

I am sitting in the smallest room of my house with your letter before me.  Soon, it will be behind me.

Sincerely,

Steny Hoyer

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By PatrickHenry, August 25, 2009 at 3:47 pm Link to this comment

By Robert, August 24 at 2:25 pm #

Since I am a constituant of congressman Hoyer I correspond with him (albeit one way) frequently.

Todays message to him from me.


Congressman Hoyer,

I find your support for Israel not in my nor my neighbors best interest and wish for you to refrain from supporting that rogue nation.

Your dozen or so trips to that country do not represent me as a Marylander or as a constituant of yours.

Israel is not a signatory of the NPT and as a violator of the Symington amendment should be sanctioned and stripped of all U.S. Aid.

I will be contacting my neighbors and friends at work and social functions in your district to rally them to vote against you next election as your views towards Israel and their war crime government do not reflect mine.

Sincerely

If our collective congresscritters recieved enough of these E-Mails we might stem the tide of those paid Israeli spammers who paint the false portrait of perception.

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By Dag Andersson, August 25, 2009 at 7:33 am Link to this comment

jmr wrote

While criticizing Israel is theoretically not anti-Semitic, in practice it is.

Your assertion would be correct if the policy of Israel reflected the core values of Judaism.
  I don’t think it does. I find it hard to believe that my view of “Der Ewige Jude” as a humanitarian and law abiding member of any society can be so utterly wrong, and that Horowitz,Pipes,Foxman and Dershowitz-together with Avigdor Lieberman and Netanyahu are the standard-bearers of modern judaism.

  When the Zionist project comes to an end, as this abomination certainly will one day-all that stands between Jews and eternal damnation are the so-called “self-hating” Jews and countless organizations in US, Israel and around the world

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By Truth-versus-Falsehood, August 25, 2009 at 2:43 am Link to this comment

After reading the falsehood-rants of two psychopaths savages, such as Frank and jmr, I was painfully left with the sad reality of the enormity of the crimes Hitler committed against a number of Jews in Europe, creating in the process an army of sick psychopaths who call themselves Zionists.

However, Hitler’s crimes against the native Palestinians, though unintended and indirectly, were double fold. By first initiating the pogroms against Jews, he created the sickly mental and psychological foundations of justifying the victimization of the Palestinians. And by not finishing the work he started, Hitler was instrumental in creating the army of psychopaths Zionists who are spreading corruption and savagery on earth since!

As I suggested before, the right place for those sickly Zionists is a huge concentration camp somewhere in America or Germany where they can receive the psychological treatment they badly need!

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By P. T., August 24, 2009 at 9:26 pm Link to this comment

“Neither, because Iraqis and Kuwaitis are the same ethnicity (mostly Arab) and it was only military forces who were driven out.”


Not so.  Arab peoples contain different ethnic groups, tribes, religions, and nationalities.  Further, military and civilian Iraqis were driven from Kuwait.  Further still, Zionist military forces and civilian colonists occupy Palestine.  Again, population transfers on territory taken in war is a violation of international law.  International law is what U.S. and Zionist proponents of the Gulf War purported to be upholding.

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By Frank, August 24, 2009 at 4:37 pm Link to this comment

PT wrote ” Did the Zionist expansionist groups oppose the “ethnic cleansing” of Iraqis from Kuwait?  Or are the Zionists hypocrites?”

Neither, because Iraqis and Kuwaitis are the same ethnicity (mostly Arab) and it was only military forces who were driven out.

Do liberals who oppose ‘illegal’ Israeli settlement of Palestine also oppose illegal immigration from mexico, or are they hypocrites?

Are liberals who are occupying what used to be Native American and Native Canadian land willing to move out of the North America give the land back to the indians, or are they hypocrites?

As for me,  I am perfectly at peace living on land conquered, settled, and economically developed by my European ancestors.  Native American nations did it to each other all the time, and many tribes were masters at torturing each other too, when their enemies were unlucky enough to be captured alive.  They did things that would make an Abu Ghraib prison guard queasy. So no, I don’t feel the least bit guilty that I get to live here because my European ancestors came along with better tech and took over. 

Personally, I find it hard to care about the complaints of Arabs/Muslims who started 2 wars with Israel and lost both of them, and who now they want their old pre-war borders back.  What’s that urban saying…“Don’t start none, won’t be none”. They lost, let the Palestinians pack their bags and move to an Arab/Muslim country. My ancestors left their European homelands hundreds of years ago and never looked back. Big deal.  What makes Palestinians so special they can only exist in one place, and that place can only belong to them?  Sounds like the same “racist” stuff the ‘Zionists’ are accused of.  Whats that ‘H’ word again?

On the other hand, while I have to give the modern,  comparatively democratic nation of Israel the thumbs-up for standing strong against the Islamist hoards, I am no zionist.  I think that Israel has proven they can take care of themselves militarily and don’t need US money or support anymore. Israel is all grown up now, and ready to stand on their own. The Palestinians are not ready to be a stand on their own, which is why they never have. Maybe it’s time for them to realize it and move in with their cousins.

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By PatrickHenry, August 24, 2009 at 3:44 pm Link to this comment

Don’t you just love the ham handed arguements the Israel apologists offer? 

That island of peace loving zionists in the sea of islamosoandso’s can hardly be called democratic, a pluristic society, Israel is not.  Calling the Israelis “humanists” is laughable since they have been guilty of war crimes against an unarmed populace since their inception until very recently.

I would like to see how Israel would fare against a 1st string army instead of disorganized militia.

America’s support of the regional menace Israel is on the wane and the future support accorded that country doesn’t look good.  About time.

http://www.pac-usa.org/the_palestinian_charter.htm

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By jmr, August 24, 2009 at 1:11 pm Link to this comment

For the members of this left-wing echo chamber, here’s the real hypocrisy:

Hussein Obama made a cornerstone of his campaign that the United States should not tell other peoples what to do.  So, the first thing he does as president is to tell Israel what to do.

While criticizing Israel is theoretically not anti-Semitic, in practice it is.  Anti-Israelis and anti-Semites, when cherry picking their quotations, can always rely on The Guardian which, located in a dreary UK city overrun with Muslims, is the apologist for its audience of Arab terrorists, Islamic jihadis and their loony-left fandom.

Talking sense with the choir here is like trying to talk sense with the healthcare mobs at the town hall meetings.  Reason is futile when glands are involved.  But just to put down a few facts, so they can be ignored or lied about:

As long as Hamas and Fatah run their respective “entities,” with charters explicitly calling for the extermination of Israel, and as long as their leaders continue to subscribe to such charters, as Abbas recently did, then Israel can take whatever steps—including strategic strongholds, ie settlements—it sees fit, the whines of the left notwithstanding.

The left is emotionally attached to the underdog.  As long as Israel (and the Jews) play the role, they will be patronized by the left.  But once Israel and the Jews fight back and, even worse, win, they become the new oppressors.  Being the underdog does not validate the terrorist’s or annihilator’s agenda, except in the fatuous minds of sanctimonious lefties.

Israel is an island of democracy and humanism in a sea of barbarians bent on its destruction.  This is not made up, this is not a delusion or an excuse to oppress the poor Palestinians, whose bloodstained savagery, venomous rhetoric and obscene brainwashing of their children are matters of record.

When the Palestinians and the left stop obsessing about the settlements, real progress is made.  Finally, Abbas and his prime minister Salam Fayyad have built a security force worthy of the name.  As it has grown in competence and quelled the gangsters, which the left predictably call, “resistance to the oppressors,” the Israelis have lifted the roadblocks, which stifled traffic, both commmercial and terrorist.  Cities like Jericho, Nablus, Hebron, Jenin, Ramallah and Bethlehem, are now open for business and are beginning to flourish.  Gaza, made up of Palis of a different ilk, remains a cesspool.

When the Palis are allowed to stop hating and killing and get a life, life becomes sweet.  But not before.

(And no, he’s not a Jew or Fundie or right-winger, just someone sick of imbeciles posing as intellectuals, and advocates posing as academics.)

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By Robert, August 24, 2009 at 11:25 am Link to this comment

AIPAC Sends In The Clowns

By Franklin Lamb

“August 18, 2009 “Information Clearing House”—- Suddenly they were all over the place, arriving not as singles but in battalions. Many, like Maryland’s 5th District Rep. Steny Hoyer had been to Israel nearly a dozen times; career stalwarts once more showing fealty to Israel’s brutal occupation of Palestine while lamely telling their constituents that they were on a legitimate ‘fact finding mission.’ For many, their real purpose was to signal their President that there must be no change in the US policy of coddling Israel’s increasingly Apartheid regime.

Among the nearly four dozen members of Congress were some of the most Islamophobic and anti-Arab ever to be elected by American voters.

House Majority leader Steny Hoyer, leading a delegation of 29 Democratic Congressmen, appeared to read from a cue card as he explained in Jerusalem that he had misgivings about Obama’s insistence on stopping colonial expansions (euphemistically called by the Israel lobby ‘settlements’). Hoyer downplayed Obama’s demand to stop the expansions and informed the White House from Jerusalem that that the issue “should be a subject of negotiations”. Hoyer refused comment on Kadema leader Tsizni Linvi’s ‘leak’ of part of the last years CIA study that Hoyer helped AIPAC bury on Capitol Hill. Appearing to quote from the now withdrawn ‘study’ Livni declared in a former Palestinian village, now renamed Tirat Hacarmel: “I see the despair and desperation of many Israelis. Hundreds of thousands see what is happening and arrange for a foreign passport, send their children to study abroad and even buy a house overseas.”

Livni got it right. Israeli officials see the writing on the wall and there is not deep affection for Israel on Capitol Hill. Most feel the US will sooner or later ‘cut Israel loose’ but still they don’t want its domestic lobby on their case. Many outside of Washington don’t understand this, and Americans in the Middle East are sometimes queried “why do you Americans love Israel so much when you claim you oppose colonialism elsewhere?”

Hoyer remained focused on undermining Obama, “I don’t think settlements are nearly the big issue that confronts the Palestinians and the Israelis in reaching an agreement. President Obama has called for a stop to any additional settlements. But that is a thorny tough issue,” he said, adding that “it’s an issue that has to be solved at the bargaining table even if it takes awhile.” Hoyer’s comment presumably warmed the hearts of his hosts and handlers even as it reportedly infuriated some in the now divided the White House.

Remarkably, Hoyer, now in his 14th term in Congress (on June 3, 2008 Steny set the all-time Record for the longest serving Member from Maryland) has yet to find a single aspect of Israel’s occupation, numerous wars against Lebanon, assassinations, slaughter of innocents and massive violations of international humanitarian law and violations of American laws (Arms Export Control Act of 1976, the 1961 Foreign Assistance Act and rack of other laws) “a big issue”.

But God forbid some misguided Palestinian pre-teen lobs a piece of gravel at one of Israel’s 400+ US funded (now $6 million each!) 130,000 pound, 1,200 horsepower, 30 foot long, 13foot wide, Merkava IV, triple impenetrable (except to Hezbollah rockets we recently learned) tanks and Hoyer is on the House floor crying ‘Palestinian terrorism’ and ready to support another AIPAC Congressional Resolution demonizing Arabs and Islam.”


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23291.htm

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By Truth-versus-Falsehood, August 24, 2009 at 11:18 am Link to this comment

If those fanatic terrorist Zionists were capable of stealing the Palestinian lands, massacring them and dispossessing them with impunity over a period of over sixty years, why they should not have the audacity to call anyone and everyone who calls them to reason the worst names they can find in their dictionary of blackmailing and crude arrogance?!

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By bogi666, August 24, 2009 at 11:12 am Link to this comment

The absurdity of the Zionists is important. It proves that they have nothing but disdain and contempt for Americans, the hands/wallets that feeds them. That’s chutzpah. Even more important is that it shows Obama doesn’t ask what color and low high when Israel tell him to jump, the 1st President to do so in recent memory. That’s what has the Zionist Zealots so upset and knowing, not believing,how gullible and ignorant the American public is and that they embrace the absurd they are being absurd about Obama because he doesn’t kiss their asses. The Zionist zealots are convinced America’s racism will spew more hate than anti-Semitic hatred of Jews. American foreign aid to Israel, is $500 per person per year with commitments for the next 10 years and has been the case for the last 30 years. This enables ISRAEL to HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE FUNDED BY AMERICANS and includes MASSAGES with chocolate if desired. The same Congress persons who oppose socialized medicine for American, vote to enable Israeli’s to enjoy it. These congress persons, mostly Republicans, solution to health care for Americans is EAT SHIT AND DIE AMERICANS. NO HEALTH CARE IS BETTER THAN ANY/ALL PUBLIC OPTIONS although we, Congress, has it and we vote to enable Israeli’s to have SOCIALIZED MEDICINE PAID FOR BY AMERICAN TAXPAYERS.

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By P. T., August 24, 2009 at 9:20 am Link to this comment

It is a world turned upside down.  Opposition to racist Zionism becomes antisemitism.  Israel must be recognized but need not recognize Palestine.  Zionists have a right to colonize, but the ethnically-cleansed, indigenous, Palestinian people do not have a right of return.

Reality is reversed in the Zionists’ eyes.

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By purplewolf, August 24, 2009 at 8:51 am Link to this comment

It is past time to sever all ties with these obnoxious people. Why does the U.S. give every man, woman and child in Israel over $10,000 per year and that was in the late 1970’s. Why do our politicians feel we have to give these people anything? I have never heard a reasonable explanation for this and the majority of people in America know nothing of their free lunch at our expense. Israel has better military equipment, better trained soldiers, over 400 nuclear weapons at last know count, almost total assistance from the U.S. whenever Israel decides to pick a fight with their neighbors. It is time for Israel to grow up and learn to live with the other people around them or else go somewhere where they might find it more desirable to live among others or else settle all the people of Israel in the desert with no close neighbors for them to fight with and leave them to their own devices to survive/live. America cannot continue to be the World’s Police. America cannot even take care of problems here at home when they occur, just look at the mess left from the last 8 years of mismanagement under Bush. Things still have not been fixed, repaired or upgraded since his first stolen term in office.

Time to cut the umbilical cord from Israel, we can no longer afford to support this parasitic leech in it’s lost causes of destroying others who they dislike for whatever reason. Remember the white phosphorus bombs they exploded last December, which they deny using, but medical evidence proves otherwise? I remember and always will and any country and it’s people who do that to another human being, regardless of their excuses, need to be exiled off the face of the Earth and America needs to let them go it alone otherwise it looks as if we approve of this type of action against others.

You are know by the company you keep America.This is not what I want America to be know for.

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By P. T., August 23, 2009 at 8:18 pm Link to this comment

The Guardian newspaper article is kind of lame.  It fails to note that colonizing territory seized by force is illegal under international law.  (Furthermore, the colonies are Jews only.)  In addition, the wall confiscating the indigenous Palestinian people’s land is a violation.

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By P. T., August 23, 2009 at 7:53 pm Link to this comment

Did the Zionist expansionist groups oppose the “ethnic cleansing” of Iraqis from Kuwait?  Or are the Zionists hypocrites?

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By Folktruther, August 23, 2009 at 7:52 pm Link to this comment

This is a good example of truth inversion, a major marketing technique of American powerbull.  Israel, supported by American ziofascists and zionist lemmings, has been ethnic cleansing the Palestinians to implant Jewish colonies in Palestine.  So the Zionists are calling a halt of this ethnic cleansing as being istself ethnic cleansing, to neutralize the charge.  The US media can now claim that both sides are charging ethnic cleansing.

This kind of truth inversion is only completely accepted by the settlers and their zionists supporters.  But what it does is prevent progressive rank and file from focusing on the simple reality based truth of the conflict, it being obscured by the conflicting claims.  Since Israeli-US policy is so obscene and indecent, opposed by the people of the whole world,  the zionist program is to obscure and blur it, as much as they can, assisted by the US media.

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By Outraged, August 23, 2009 at 7:17 pm Link to this comment

Quote: “The strategy to play down the significance of the settlements is laid out in a document drawn up for an influential pro-Israel lobby group by a prominent Republican pollster, Frank Luntz, on how to influence American public opinion.

The Israel Project, with an advisory board that includes 20 members of Congress from both parties, issued the confidential document to its supporters at about the time Obama came to power in January.

The report, marked as “not for distribution or publication” but since widely disseminated outside of the organisation, says that those who back the removal of the settlements should be told they are supporting ethnic cleansing and antisemitism. The guide offers what it describes as “the best settlement argument”.”

The bold-faced portion of the article quote can be easily translated to, and more accurately is, “How to LIE Like the Best of ‘EM”.

Frank Luntz and his “The 14 Words Never to Use” are nothing more than propaganda.  As this CommonDreams article illustrates:

“Another zinger Luntz offers is to NEVER say global economy/globalization/capitalism. That’s right. Never refer to the way things really are. Instead, refer to the way you’d like things to be and make that your reality. Luntz warns, “More Americans are afraid of the principle of globalization than even privatization. The reason? Globalization presents something big, something distant, and something foreign.” And I thought he was talking about my Aunt Virginia’s fruitcake. So what to use? Free market economy, free market economy, free market economy! Capitalism is a major no-no because it reminds us of a world of winners and losers. And of course we’re not supposed to think about our pocketbook realities. Better to tune in to ESPN and find out the only winners and losers we need to care about—who’s going to make it to the Sweet Sixteen during March Madness.”
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0226-27.htm

So….. how many “free market” folks would endorse GLOBALIZATION…?

This same type of skewing the facts, ie…propaganda is found everywhere.  For instance, while looking up the term “caveat venditor”, I was brought to “caveat emptor” entry.
And while some dictionary sites had the definition, others didn’t at all, sent you to another site or it could be found within the definition of “caveat emptor”. 

Infoplease dictionary says this:
“Spelling Check for caveat venditor
Hmmm… that doesn’t look right.
Here are some possible alternate spellings:”

http://www.infoplease.com/spellcheck?word=caveat+venditor&x=15&y=10

TheFreeDictionary does have it, but lists it under “caveat emptor”.  If “caveat emptor” is worthy of an entry, why not “caveat venditor”?  It says: ”(redirected from Caveat venditor)”
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/caveat+venditor

Dictionary.com says this: “You are seeing Ask web results because there were no matches on Dictionary.com” and proceeds to list the “caveat emptor” wikipedia entry as it’s “first in the list.”
http://ask.reference.com/web?q=caveat venditor&l=dir&qsrc=2891&o=10616

Yourdictionary.com had it, as did merriam-webster.com, so why not the others, and why the “hide and seek” to find it.

I realize dictionaries add and subtract entries with each copyright, but I had to wonder…. when did “caveat venditor” become “unneeded”, shall we say?  They all seemed to have “caveat emptor”, though.

I can’t speak for everyone else, but I certainly find “caveat venditor” MORE important than “caveat emptor”.

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By Frank, August 23, 2009 at 4:32 pm Link to this comment

Israel is starting to sound like Mexico and some liberals in the US, who have the
audacity to label those who oppose Mexican settlers coming onto US land as
‘racist’ or ‘xenophobic’, and who call the deportation of illegal aliens back to
mexico ‘ethnic cleansing’.


Oh, the irony.

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By mike112769, August 23, 2009 at 4:18 pm Link to this comment

The state of Israel is starting to sound like the boy who cried wolf. Everyone who disagrees with Israel is, according to Israel, an anti-Semitic nazi who wants to institute a new pogrom against them. Israel needs to stop hiding behind the Holocaust when defending its own atrocities. They, more than most, should feel the plight of the Palestinians. For two groups who hate each other so badly, they sure have a lot in common.

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By PatrickHenry, August 23, 2009 at 3:18 pm Link to this comment

Obama is biting off alot. Power to him.

Jewish zionists have permeated all levels of government, media and banking and control more propaganda and misdirected media than their numbers should allow.

http://intifada-palestine.com/2009/08/10/israels-fifth-column-the-people-in-between/

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By William W. Wexler, August 23, 2009 at 2:38 pm Link to this comment

I don’t know what the problem is.

Express displeasure at Israel = ethnic cleansing.

Anyone can see that.

Remember Rachel Corrie?  She got cleansed real good by a bulldozer.  Now THAT’S the ticket. 

http://schema-root.org/people/political/activists/peace/individuals/rachel_corrie/rachel_corrie.jpeg

http://djiin.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/rachel_corrie_after_attack.jpg

Do I have that just about right, Israel, or have I left anything out?

-Wexler

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By felicity, August 23, 2009 at 12:29 pm Link to this comment

First I heard that Palestinians are seizing the properties of Jews and claiming them as their own - which would be a kind of ethnic cleansing.  I have heard, on the other hand, that for years Jews seized homes of Palestinians claiming the properties to rightfully belong to them - which was a kind of ethnic cleansing.

Other than the grounds for the accusation being non-existent, past practices of some Israelis may again come under scrutiny by those of us with long memories to the ultimate disadvantage of the State of Israel defenders.

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By coloradokarl, August 23, 2009 at 10:43 am Link to this comment

when ever someone points a finger there are three fingers pointed back. We need to cut Isreal off, sponsoring their state terrorism is wrong and makes us complicit, They have made their bed let them sleep in it (if they can).........

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