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U.K. to Monitor Families With In-Home SurveillancePosted on Aug 4, 2009
Editor’s Note: A number of readers have challenged the accuracy of this story (see their comments below). We link below to a Telegraph article, but most blogs reference the same story in the Daily Express, a conservative tabloid. Reader memebreak writes, “Apparently, in very extreme cases, ‘problem families’ may be given the option to move from their (often state funded) homes to ‘core residential units’ for 24 hour support and supervision, but we’re not talking about 20,000 famlies, and this is very different from the Express report of the government planning to put ‘20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV supervision in their own homes.’ ” With millions of cameras watching its citizens’ every move, Britain is already one of the world’s leading surveillance states. Now the government wants to go even further, putting cameras in 20,000 private homes “to make sure children attend school, go to bed on time and eat proper meals,” reports the Telegraph. The households chosen for this gross violation of privacy will only be the most “shameless,” of course. “Sin bins,” they’re calling them. We don’t want to defend abusive or negligent parents, but “intensive 24-hour supervision” of government-disapproved households is just plain creepy. How fitting for the homeland of Jeremy Bentham and George Orwell. Time to dust off “Discipline and Punish.”
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By cctv system, May 15, 2011 at 8:11 pm Link to this comment
Although this smell of disregard for human rights. The underlying issue of neglect and family violence my be the cause for some social service departments to endorse this seemingly harsh action.
Report thisBy BlueBerry Pick'n, August 10, 2009 at 11:41 am Link to this comment
ever notice how if you give an American an opportunity to comment on British events or culture…
...they rarely get it right?
perhaps its because their society is STEEPED in a xenophobic, knee-jerk negative response to British culture, society & history from the time they’re able to watch tv or take ‘cooked’ history lessons in school?
The UK has some surveillance problems: but you’ll notice its the FBI that is **demanding** other nations cough up the biometric database upload from the Commonwealth nations.
its the US who is driving privatization & a weird xenophobic & LockDown Nation approach to travel or digital communications.
*hum*
I find it interesting that if you ask Americans about anything that they don’t understand, the first thing they can muster up on the discussion is “UN-AMERICAN!!”
You don’t see other Developed Nations driving a drumbeat of Anti-Americanism in our institutions: but if you give 15 seconds to “The Daily Show” or Colbert, they can whip the audience into a bone-chilling ‘USA!USA!USA!’ chant in the time lingering between heartbeats…
a frenetic chant that goes on for several minutes…
its freaky & downright terrifying.
Now I know how it felt to be French, Austrian, Polish, Belgian or Dutch during the years preceding WWII…
Report thisA Proud “Un-American”,
BlueBerry Pick’n
By guest, August 7, 2009 at 3:56 pm Link to this comment
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this CCTV story is a total fabrication - see here http://tiny.cc/3w9fU and here http://is.gd/23Fdt
Report thisBy RAE, August 6, 2009 at 12:34 pm Link to this comment
I suspected as such, memebake “This story is incorrect.”
I don’t know when the first little “inaccuracy” appeared in print but I sure know when and where such “journalism” occurs now. All day, everyday in every way.
We no longer can believe what we read, hear or see. Every politician and public servant in every government, ALL salespeople, police and security agencies, ALL NEWS MEDIA… EVERYONE at the very least puts a “spin” on his/her report, and a great many carry the art all the way to OUTRIGHT LIES.
Oh not everyone all the time… but enough to essentially make unreliable every report available to us.
Who was it that said…“TRUST, but verify?”
I don’t believe anything I read, hear or see on TV. Anything that occurs that is important that I know, and there isn’t much of that, I VERIFY before accepting it as truth. The rest goes straight to the shredder because “Frankly, m’dear, I don’t give a damn.” If the rest of the world wants to waste its time and energy dealing in LIES, let ‘em. I won’t.
Too bad… it was a lot nicer world to live in when we just had to “trust.”
Report thisBy memebake, August 6, 2009 at 2:21 am Link to this comment
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This story is incorrect. There is no plan to put CCTV into private homes, despite what the Daily Express might claim.
Read up on Family Intervention Projects if you want more details.
Apparently, in very extreme cases, ‘problem families’ may be given the option to move from their (often state funded) homes to ‘core residential units’ for 24 hour support and supervision, but we’re not talking about 20,000 famlies, and this is very different from the Express report of the government planning to put “20,000 problem families under 24-hour CCTV supervision in their own homes”
Report thisBy liecatcher, August 5, 2009 at 2:35 pm Link to this comment
THE NEW WORLD ORDER ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT IS UPON US.
Americans are already being spied on, & with the
destruction of our economy, we have officially become
a colony of England.
Report thisBy bobbycotter1, August 5, 2009 at 2:16 pm Link to this comment
This is the way it always starts “We are going to put camera’s in homes BUT ONLY SHAMELESS familys”
I remember when they told us we would only get seatbelt tickets IF THEY PULLED US OVER FOR SOMETHING ELSE…
it only took a few years before people were getting pulled over because cops “SAW the person not buckling up”
ridiculous
Adventure Travel
Travel jobs
Report thisBy RAE, August 5, 2009 at 10:02 am Link to this comment
Don’t stop there, Folktruther… connect the dots for me from the Pioneers - the sturdy, independent stock that wrestled the winds, the winters and the wild things into submission - the strong, silent folk who’d “plug ya just as soon as look at ya” - connect them to those you describe as Americans in your posting.
What happened on the way to adolescence?
Report thisBy doublestandards/glasshoues, August 5, 2009 at 9:56 am Link to this comment
That should be Adam Curtis, not David Curtis.
Report thisBy Folktruther, August 5, 2009 at 9:26 am Link to this comment
Just as the Greeks served as models for the Romans ideologically, so the Britains and Israelis are serving as models for the Americans. As indicated by the comments on the Gates incident, a large fraction of Americans already believe that talking back to the police in your own home is a criminal offense, and there is strong respect for the US military as well.
The purpose of a military is to kill people, or to threaten to kill people. Americans don’t know that emotionally. Emotionally, for Americans, the military Keeps the Peace. That it does so by killing people is disconnected emotionally from the American soul.
Americans already identify with oppressive authority, being indoctrinated by a learned and mass media instilling it from childhood. they apparently feel safer in a police state. The feel that the police state is there to protect them, like their parents did when they were children. Especially when you have an Educated intelligent president uttering articulate and moderate bromides justifying it.
Eventually people wake up from their political stupor, but I don’t think it is cameras that are going to do it.
Report thisBy doublestandards/glasshoues, August 5, 2009 at 8:38 am Link to this comment
It is not all that much of a surprise to anyone who has seen the films of David Curtis. The British it seems are even more easily manipulated through fear than Americans.
Report thisBy dihey, August 5, 2009 at 8:26 am Link to this comment
If I were one of these families I would place the conjugal bed right under the camera and sell the happenings to the BBC TV.
Report thisBy Rodger Lemonde, August 5, 2009 at 8:24 am Link to this comment
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It ain’t the families that are shameless.
Report thisBy Michael Bowers, August 5, 2009 at 6:05 am Link to this comment
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1984 Big Brother is watching .
Report thisBy RAE, August 5, 2009 at 5:47 am Link to this comment
On this I’m almost speechless… almost.
COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
The End.
Report thisBy lt, August 5, 2009 at 2:21 am Link to this comment
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While I agree that the increased surveillance of individuals is disturbing, your post grossly misinforms the reader. Granted, ‘supervision’ may be taken as a euphemism for ‘surveillance’, but there is no suggestion in the Telegraph article that cameras are to be installed in homes. Such groundless statements undermine the intergrity of Truthdig. This is not ‘drilling beneath the headlines. As a professional journalist myself, I’m disappointed; I heard good things about Truthdig. Best perhaps just to furnish the links to the articles and limit the posts.
Report thisBy doublestandards/glasshoues, August 5, 2009 at 2:13 am Link to this comment
In the US we don’t need surveillance cameras. People are already docile enough and would never think of stepping out of line. Maybe it’s the prescription drugs in the drinking water.
Report thisBy Outraged, August 5, 2009 at 12:21 am Link to this comment
Wow, from the comments I’d think you people have really missed the boat on that Positive Psychology thing. Really…. I gotta tell ya, I don’t f-e-e-l the love.
Remember, when that happens:
“The driving ideology of corporate culture is a blind faith in the power and virtue of the corporate collective. All quotas can be met. All things are possible. Profits can always be raised. It is only a question of the right attitude. The highest form of personal happiness, we are told, is when the corporation thrives. Corporate retreats are built around this idea of merging the self with the corporate collective. They often have the feel of a religious revival. They are designed to whip up emotions. Office managers and sales staffs are given inspirational talks by sports stars, retired military commanders, billionaires and self-help specialists like Tony Robbins who tell them, in essence, the impossible is always possible. And when this proves not to be true, it is we who are the problem. We simply have to try harder.”
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090726_happiness_consultants_wont_stop_a_depression/
Now why should this be a bothersome thing…. Just go along to get along, there you go… that’s the way…. good job. (lol)
Well now…, you could get the kids in on this thing and have some real fun…. oh, yeah. See, there is a silver lining here. Use that entreprenurial spirit, think “out of the box”, shift that paradigm, get that team spirit.
That’s one helluva a way to attain family “cohesiveness” but if the kid won’t go to school at least they will learn something and it’s so wonderful when children and parents “work together” to solve their problems.
Report thisBy Russian Paul, August 5, 2009 at 12:11 am Link to this comment
Ed Balls is the fascist MP proposing this, but he denies that CCTV will be installed in these people’s homes. I’m not sure what too believe…I think people in Britain (and the US) have been inured into accepting this invasive spying and we’re apathetic enough not to cause a fuss. I just didn’t think this would happen so soon…and so blatantly.
Report thisBy shrike75, August 4, 2009 at 11:37 pm Link to this comment
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Orwell’s 1984
Report thisBy redspades, August 4, 2009 at 7:55 pm Link to this comment
a brave new world
Report thisBy coloradokarl, August 4, 2009 at 7:37 pm Link to this comment
This is a hoax. NOBODY is that stupid, not even a bunch of near-bred panty wearing pinky-lifters like the British! what is next? Gun Control! ass-holes….
Report thisBy mike112769, August 4, 2009 at 7:31 pm Link to this comment
When I first read the headline, I thought, “This must be the Humor column.” Now that I know they are serious, all I can think is, “This can’t be real.” The so-called “nut-jobs” have been right all along. There is no way this amount of intrusion can be justified. Just because it’s happening in Britain doesn’t mean it won’t happen here. If it works in Britain, it will be brought here. We copy the British so much I’ve often wondered why we bothered with a Revolution. The “ruling class” is only as strong as we allow them to be. When will we take the responsibilty for what has happened to our world? We need to remind our governments that these are our countries too. These are our lives. We are not your property.
Report thisBy purplewolf, August 4, 2009 at 7:16 pm Link to this comment
Last I knew one reader on this site thought it was no big deal as he was from the U.K and it was commonplace to have these cameras all over. Claimed he feels safer with them spying all the time. Well now what does he think about this. When will they take all the newborns, give them lobotomies, install spy cameras into their eyes and replace most of the brains with computer chips and programmed life plans so they can fit some mad mans idea of a perfect citizen. And whose beliefs of a “perfect person” would be used to create better brand of people? Conspiracy theory? I think not, we have seen just the tip of the iceberg of what these corrupt governments are doing to their peons.
Reminds me of when Captain Luc Picard was taken by the Borgs and modified. Creepy, very creepy.
When does this invasion into peoples lives stop? Privacy had become the biggest joke put over onto the sheeple of the U.K. and America.
Report thisBy truthdug, August 4, 2009 at 6:54 pm Link to this comment
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Is reality television just a buffer to make people feel comfortable about this happening?
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